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Apr 23 2015, 19:52
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Hecatom
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Apr 22 2015, 21:03)  You'll hoard FOR EVER!!!... It seems like it will be the case (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) The price just dropped and it doesn't seem like it will go up again, which it fucked me up and made me lost around 500000 credits
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Apr 24 2015, 00:33
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VriskaSerket
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Joined: 27-December 08

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QUOTE(Hecatom @ Apr 23 2015, 17:52)  It seems like it will be the case (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) The price just dropped and it doesn't seem like it will go up again, which it fucked me up and made me lost around 500000 credits pff, you should buy ~1m of hath and kill all Hath Barons after that, only that will allow hath price go up.
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Apr 24 2015, 04:56
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Colman
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 15-November 10

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QUOTE(Hecatom @ Apr 24 2015, 01:52)  It seems like it will be the case (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) The price just dropped and it doesn't seem like it will go up again, which it fucked me up and made me lost around 500000 credits No need to whine for anything lower than 1m credits. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Perhaps should make it higher as the current Gold star worth around 26m.
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Apr 24 2015, 15:53
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eleeinos
Group: Gold Star Club
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So why can you NEVER get 5/5 potencies on a piece of equipment? And why does it ALWAYS have to waste precious hours of your life first and then get screwed up in the LAST level? My new helmet, for example, I was at Juggernaut 5 / Capacitor 4, and then at the last level: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=cd392ace14Same with those boots I got from the lottery last year, Juggernaut 5 / Holyproof 4, and at level 10: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=350f999884I hadn't played HV for almost a year, came back just for the easter event, then I thought I'd give the helmet a try in IW and the same thing happens and instantly drives me away again. I understand that Tenboro has created this specific code in such a way that 99.9% of the time it will screw you up with a third unwanted potency, what I don't understand is WHY. What's so beneficial about purposedly annoying players, especially those who are supporting your site, both by being active in the community and by offering their money? Things like this aren't going to make us play more. Sure, some messed-up person with OCD will stay up three nights in a row trying to get 5/5 potencies after getting screwed over like this in the last level, but normal people like myself won't do this more than once. So what's the point? Who would it hurt if I had 5/5 on both these pieces of equipment? I'm trying to find reasons to come back and play a little more every now and then and the game itself pushes me away. What's the point, Tenboro? What's the point?
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Apr 24 2015, 15:59
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VriskaSerket
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QUOTE(eleeinos @ Apr 24 2015, 13:53)  So why can you NEVER get 5/5 potencies on a piece of equipment? And why does it ALWAYS have to waste precious hours of your life first and then get screwed up in the LAST level? My new helmet, for example, I was at Juggernaut 5 / Capacitor 4, and then at the last level: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=cd392ace14Same with those boots I got from the lottery last year, Juggernaut 5 / Holyproof 4, and at level 10: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=350f999884I hadn't played HV for almost a year, came back just for the easter event, then I thought I'd give the helmet a try in IW and the same thing happens and instantly drives me away again. I understand that Tenboro has created this specific code in such a way that 99.9% of the time it will screw you up with a third unwanted potency, what I don't understand is WHY. What's so beneficial about purposedly annoying players, especially those who are supporting your site, both by being active in the community and by offering their money? Things like this aren't going to make us play more. Sure, some messed-up person with OCD will stay up three nights in a row trying to get 5/5 potencies after getting screwed over like this in the last level, but normal people like myself won't do this more than once. So what's the point? Who would it hurt if I had 5/5 on both these pieces of equipment? I'm trying to find reasons to come back and play a little more every now and then and the game itself pushes me away. What's the point, Tenboro? What's the point?  ps. there no reasons, actually right now lots easier to get 5/5 than several patches ago. this was done with less than 20 shards. This post has been edited by VriskaSerket: Apr 24 2015, 16:02
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Apr 24 2015, 16:01
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VriskaSerket
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doublepost
This post has been edited by VriskaSerket: Apr 24 2015, 16:01
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Apr 24 2015, 17:01
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eleeinos
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Apr 24 2015, 16:59)  But that's the problem, I was going to donate more money and go up to 5 gold stars last year, but after several occurences similar to the ones I described above, I decided not to. He can't be doing this for the money and at the same time not realize that things like this drive people away. QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Apr 24 2015, 16:59)  this was done with less than 20 shards. This doesn't change the fact that it has never happened for me in any of the patches. And it doesn't feel like a coincidence or "bad luck". It's a ridiculously simple line of code to make the game throw a third potency in the 10th level 999 out of 1000 times. Like I said before, what I don't understand is why this game MUST be frustrating instead of enjoyable. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) And I'm still waiting for an answer to the question "Who would it hurt if I had 5/5 potencies on my equipment?". I really need to find out who's that guy who would be devastated if that happened, so that I can compensate somehow.
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Apr 24 2015, 17:39
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Colman
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QUOTE(eleeinos @ Apr 24 2015, 23:01)  But that's the problem, I was going to donate more money and go up to 5 gold stars last year, but after several occurences similar to the ones I described above, I decided not to. He can't be doing this for the money and at the same time not realize that things like this drive people away. This doesn't change the fact that it has never happened for me in any of the patches. And it doesn't feel like a coincidence or "bad luck". It's a ridiculously simple line of code to make the game throw a third potency in the 10th level 999 out of 1000 times. Like I said before, what I don't understand is why this game MUST be frustrating instead of enjoyable. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) And I'm still waiting for an answer to the question "Who would it hurt if I had 5/5 potencies on my equipment?". I really need to find out who's that guy who would be devastated if that happened, so that I can compensate somehow. This cost me 100 shards or so. It was IWed a few weeks ago. This post has been edited by Colman: Apr 24 2015, 17:39
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Apr 24 2015, 17:40
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(eleeinos @ Apr 25 2015, 02:01)  This doesn't change the fact that it has never happened for me in any of the patches. And it doesn't feel like a coincidence or "bad luck". It's a ridiculously simple line of code to make the game throw a third potency in the 10th level 999 out of 1000 times. Like I said before, what I don't understand is why this game MUST be frustrating instead of enjoyable. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) And I'm still waiting for an answer to the question "Who would it hurt if I had 5/5 potencies on my equipment?". I really need to find out who's that guy who would be devastated if that happened, so that I can compensate somehow. He already made it so that there's only 3 potencies at most. I suppose he kept it at 3 rather than 2 "in case" someone believe in a 5/2/2 weapon build. And before you discredit such build, a 5eco2arch2ann staff is about as useful as a 5jug5cap armor, negligible improvement. (For the record, some combination of gears will make such staff marginally more optimal than the alternatives, 5eco4arch, or 5eco4annh, like about 80 more score than an existing 20k score) Let me ask you this question, what's the point of 5/5 if it doesn't benefit anybody's gameplay but his vanity. Point me to a guy who has actually tested if 5jug5cap is superior than 5jug This post has been edited by holy_demon: Apr 24 2015, 17:43
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Apr 24 2015, 18:01
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eleeinos
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 24 2015, 18:40)  Let me ask you this question, what's the point of 5/5 if it doesn't benefit anybody's gameplay but his vanity.
Does eleeinos' vanity cause harm to Tenboro and his site/community/game?
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Apr 24 2015, 18:57
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treesloth
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 25 2015, 00:40)  Point me to a guy who has actually tested if 5jug5cap is superior than 5jug
sorry to rain on your parade but; frankmelody, danix, GC, and apologies to others I can't think of right now. The difference between 7+k and 5.5k mana is actually considerable in pfuGF. QUOTE(eleeinos @ Apr 25 2015, 01:01)  Does eleeinos' vanity cause harm to Tenboro and his site/community/game?
Peeps playing ALOT to get drops, crys, proper IW, credits, whathaveyou = more $ per ad = more revenue. I could be wrong. Though to Tenboro's credit, he is going to make drops better, and that will help the poorer players. OTOH, I don't know why IW should be random.
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Apr 24 2015, 19:25
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(eleeinos @ Apr 24 2015, 17:01)  Like I said before, what I don't understand is why this game MUST be frustrating instead of enjoyable. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) yup, it is. and the worst part is that it still isn't enough to make people quit it. not speaking about you in particular, obviously - i barely know you afterall (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(eleeinos @ Apr 24 2015, 17:01)  And I'm still waiting for an answer to the question "Who would it hurt if I had 5/5 potencies on my equipment?". I really need to find out who's that guy who would be devastated if that happened, so that I can compensate somehow.
me. remember that waiting for pleasure is pleasure itself (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 24 2015, 17:40)  He already made it so that there's only 3 potencies at most.
in situations like this, my country we use to say something like 'dio ha voluto!' which can be translated pretty much like '[luckily] someone-from-the-sky lightened the admin of this site and made him do something reasonable' (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 24 2015, 17:40)  I suppose he kept it at 3 rather than 2 "in case" someone believe in a 5/2/2 weapon build.
And before you discredit such build, a 5eco2arch2ann staff is about as useful as a 5jug5cap armor, negligible improvement.
personally i don't discredit it. i think that 1/1/1/1/1/1/1/1 gears are worthy as well (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 24 2015, 17:40)  Let me ask you this question, what's the point of 5/5 if it doesn't benefit anybody's gameplay but his vanity. Point me to a guy who has actually tested if 5jug5cap is superior than 5jug
do you really believe this? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) i mean, i don't know so much about mages but surely 5jug/5cap isn't so useless for a melee - who would ever think that larger MP tanks are bad? personally i'd really prefer 5jug/5cap above 5jug/5whatever-elemental-mitigation QUOTE(treesloth @ Apr 24 2015, 18:57)  Though to Tenboro's credit, he is going to make drops better, and that will help the poorer players.
i'd be really happy about this, should it really happen, but: 1. most likely we will see it on 0.82/0.83. and they will be released soon, afaik 2. he did say 'less trollish drops', not 'better drops'. it's really different. you can say less black = more white only if there are two colors, but not when there's a whole huge set of colors (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Apr 26 2015, 08:20
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tetron
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 24 2015, 21:09)  This cost me 100 shards or so. It was IWed a few weeks ago. Why did you forge the "Physical Hit Chance" in a Mage gear? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Apr 26 2015, 08:48
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(tetron @ Apr 26 2015, 06:20)  Why did you forge the "Physical Hit Chance" in a Mage gear? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Ether tap? Given mage's low physical hit rate and the evade of high PL mobs, it's useful.
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Apr 26 2015, 08:49
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tetron
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Apr 26 2015, 12:18)  Ether tap? Given mage's low physical hit rate and the evade of high PL mobs, it's useful.
I see. Didn't thought about that since I don't use Tap.
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Apr 26 2015, 10:33
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Colman
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QUOTE(tetron @ Apr 26 2015, 14:20)  Why did you forge the "Physical Hit Chance" in a Mage gear? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Just to increase forge level (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I am not using elemental anyway. I need a lot of cloth and 1k haths to make my elemental sets useful.
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Apr 26 2015, 13:04
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tetron
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Apr 26 2015, 12:26)  you should use it in high difficulty arena (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) unless you are one of top tier mages in HV (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) In the Arena, Ether Tap is not needed at all, even in PFUDOR. It's only useful in Grindfest. Otherwise it just slows you down and break the flow of the gameplay.
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