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post Dec 2 2014, 10:51
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 2 2014, 08:32) *

Um, salvage and used the old one instead?

nope, old one have same pmi, but with less damage i spending all mana before dying.)
with new one: 0 pots until 400 round, ~2-3 pots for next 300 rounds.

QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 2 2014, 08:32) *

but what happen to Spark? You're a Dark mage, you don't have bonus for Cure, but you can use Spirit Thief well, so with lots of Scrolls of God/Life and Spirit Thief, I though you could remain invincible until out of fuel?

Spark should be recasted after trigger, so on next turn i can die even with fully sp/mp/pots. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Dec 2 2014, 11:22
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Dec 2 2014, 12:10) *

So right now exactly that moment when i cant do something more to solve problem: at random 400+ IWBTH round i brutally murdered with several physical hits in row.

imperil - heal - full heal - defence - dead (at 5-8 turn). even with fully buffed, sharded, scrolled.
that phase, so useless forge pmi more, cotton also will not help(even peerless one will raise pmi on +2-3%, thats not enough), idk what to do... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Have you tried mixing Proficiency Cotton?

QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 2 2014, 14:02) *

what happen to Spark? You're a Dark mage, you don't have bonus for Cure, but you can use Spirit Thief well, so with lots of Scrolls of God/Life and Spirit Thief, I though you could remain invincible until out of fuel?

I was wondering the same thing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Dec 2 2014, 14:21) *

nope, old one have same pmi, but with less damage i spending all mana before dying.)
with new one: 0 pots until 400 round, ~2-3 pots for next 300 rounds.
Spark should be recasted after trigger, so on next turn i can die even with fully sp/mp/pots. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Do you use Absorption? Either Scroll or the Spell?
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post Dec 2 2014, 11:28
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Dec 2 2014, 15:40) *

So right now exactly that moment when i cant do something more to solve problem: at random 400+ IWBTH round i brutally murdered with several physical hits in row.

imperil - heal - full heal - defence - dead (at 5-8 turn). even with fully buffed, sharded, scrolled.
that phase, so useless forge pmi more, cotton also will not help(even peerless one will raise pmi on +2-3%, thats not enough), idk what to do... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


Sounds about right; 500-700rnds on iwtbh. Monsters are getting stronger and I am feeling weaker.

If only we could hmmm.... block all attacks, gain OC while casting offensive spells, eliminate resists, have the ability to one-shot every other round, and play with our eyes closed. Oh wait, maybe I should play 1h! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Dec 2 2014, 12:09
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QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 2 2014, 09:22) *

Have you tried mixing Proficiency Cotton?

for what?

QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 2 2014, 09:22) *

Do you use Absorption? Either Scroll or the Spell?

not works agains simple physical attacks. useless.

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post Dec 2 2014, 12:23
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Dec 2 2014, 17:51) *

Spark should be recasted after trigger, so on next turn i can die even with fully sp/mp/pots. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Ugh, true. 2 turn cooldown Cure and unable to Spark after trigger exist so we can't abuse SoL. Aside Fullcure, there are other things you can do to slow down your death:
o. Gems: keep one when enter those hard rounds for situation like this.
o. Fus Ro Dah or OFC: while mage generally don't use OC, you can still charge up, then keep it before entering those round. You can blast em when being corned, and after things finally die down, recharged again. Slow but effective(hopefully) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).
o. Health pots: last resort, keep a few if possible.
Of course if those dire situations happen frequently, just quit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 2 2014, 12:34
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 2 2014, 10:23) *

Ugh, true. 2 turn cooldown Cure and unable to Spark after trigger exist so we can't abuse SoL. Aside Fullcure, there are other things you can do to slow down your death:
o. Gems: keep one when enter those hard rounds for situation like this.
o. Fus Ro Dah or OFC: while mage generally don't use OC, you can still charge up, then keep it before entering those round. You can blast em when being corned, and after things finally die down, recharged again. Slow but effective(hopefully) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).
o. Health pots: last resort, keep a few if possible.
Of course if those dire situations happen frequently, just quit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

health pots sounds somewhat lame(didnt used them since ~50 lvl), but i havnt other choise (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Dec 2 2014, 12:59
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Dec 2 2014, 11:51) *

Spark should be recasted after trigger, so on next turn i can die even with fully sp/mp/pots. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Spark on IA.
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post Dec 2 2014, 13:05
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Dec 2 2014, 10:59) *

Spark on IA.

Spark on IA also should be recasted after trigger.

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post Dec 2 2014, 13:07
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Dec 2 2014, 14:05) *

Spark on IA also should be recasted after trigger, so on next turn i can die even with fully sp/mp/pots. cry.gif

Spark can proc as long as you have more than 1 hp and enough spirit, it doesn't matter if you used one on the last turn.
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post Dec 2 2014, 13:16
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Dec 2 2014, 11:07) *

Spark can proc as long as you have more than 1 hp and enough spirit, it doesn't matter if you used one on the last turn.

regen procs at end of turn, so if heal spells still on cooldown - im dying...
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post Dec 2 2014, 13:23
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Dec 2 2014, 14:16) *

regen procs at end of turn, so if heal spells still on cooldown - im dying...

Spark proc, cast cure on the next turn and spark is automatically recast at the beginning of the turn if you have more than 25% mana.

if you take a lot of damage your spark will reproc again, use full cure if not on cooldown.

if spark reproc again stop playing IWBTH GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Dec 2 2014, 13:23
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Dec 2 2014, 20:16) *

regen procs at end of turn, so if heal spells still on cooldown - im dying...

He mean that if your health is 2 or more, you should cast offensive spell because it's still safe. Only use heal when HP=1
Edit: I tested it, even though I have 45HP in GREEN bar, not silver one, I'm still alive the next turn.

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post Dec 2 2014, 13:30
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Dec 2 2014, 11:23) *

Spark proc, cast cure on the next turn and spark is automatically recast at the beginning of the turn if you have more than 25% mana.

if you take a lot of damage your spark will reproc again, use full cure if not on cooldown.

if spark reproc again stop playing IWBTH GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

ok, i got the idea, fuck IWBTH GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Dec 2 2014, 14:15
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QUOTE(VriskaSerket @ Dec 2 2014, 15:39) *

for what?

Higher Proficiency reduces the Cast Time of spells, so you get less attack from mobs.

QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 2 2014, 15:53) *

o. Fus Ro Dah or OFC: while mage generally don't use OC, you can still charge up, then keep it before entering those round. You can blast em when being corned, and after things finally die down, recharged again. Slow but effective(hopefully) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

A Weird but somewhat unique idea. I'll note it down. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(kumosu @ Dec 2 2014, 15:53) *

Of course if those dire situations happen frequently, just quit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

What an Idea. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 2 2014, 14:24
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QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 2 2014, 12:15) *

Higher Proficiency reduces the Cast Time of spells, so you get less attack from mobs.

that not worth ~-15% damage, if i should do things slow - i prefer 1h power instead.
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post Dec 2 2014, 18:30
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Someone just dumped 50+ Leg leather in the Bazaar! O_o
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post Dec 2 2014, 18:35
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QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 2 2014, 17:30) *

Someone just dumped 50+ Leg leather in the Bazaar! O_o

? i didn't even see that coming! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
were there nice things in the lot?
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post Dec 2 2014, 19:08
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 2 2014, 22:05) *

? i didn't even see that coming! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
were there nice things in the lot?

2 Reinforced, but no Reinforced Protection/Deflection. There were some good ones. Some had good Prefix, but not so good Suffix.

Some sample from my history:

Legendary Zircon Leather Breastplate Of Protection
Legendary Amber Leather Helmet of Warding
Legendary Zircon Leather Breastplate Of Warding
Legendary Cobalt Leather Breastplate Of Dampening
Legendary Cobalt Leather Breastplate Of Protection
Legendary Agile Leather Breastplate of Deflection
Legendary Onyx Leather Breastplate of Warding
Legendary Agile Leather Breastplate of Protection
Legendary Cobalt Leather Breastplate Of Deflection
Legendary Cobalt Leather Breastplate Of Deflection
Legendary Jade Leather Helmet of Protection
Legendary Cobalt Leather Helmet of Protection
Legendary Reinforced Leather Helmet of Stoneskin
Legendary Amber Leather Helmet of Warding
Legendary Ruby Leather Helmet of Warding
Legendary Onyx Leather Helmet of Protection
Legendary Zircon Leather Helmet of Warding
Legendary Agile Leather Helmet of Stoneskin
Legendary Ruby Leather Helmet of Deflection
Legendary Agile Leather Helmet of Deflection


And looks like they are now permanently gone!

50+... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

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post Dec 2 2014, 19:49
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QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 2 2014, 18:08) *

either the system cleaned them or someone really wanted HG leather, at whatever cost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Dec 2 2014, 21:10
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 2 2014, 23:19) *

either the system cleaned them or someone really wanted HG leather, at whatever cost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

It's the system. If someone bought & salvaged them, then those equipments would still be shown with that BIG RED TEXT. And I don't think there is any person (other than TygerTyger) who would buy Leg Leather for HG material. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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