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Weaken/Bewilder is your friend (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Keep your health at max to survive th spirit attack.
Again... use poison. it deals damage and make it regenerate MP and SP slower.
If they can kill you with normal attack you will die even with all elemental spells available (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Hop about some points in END? Also max your HP tanks.

In need of AP? Go do some easy modo item worlds for Artifacts and loot.

I have Lv 5 Weakness/Bewilder...and 5 Slow to make sure I have max MP to damage rate. 1 Poison, because poison't damage have no effect on their damage, I think.

The AP is one of the sulutions I will totally accecpt.
I can't accepted that I need 1000+ Artifact to reach this objective. If artifact to ap transfer rate is same as 0.4.8, I won't write any post. I'll start my Artifact farming.

If you low levels are having such a hard time maging, then switch to melee.
You aren't meant to have an easy time with a mage at that low of a level anyway.

And no, I wouldn't call level 100 "mid-level".

low-level, whatever you call it.

It cost me months to reach this level, and change to melee again will cost months.

It will cost me millions of exp to change back to melee. Impossible...or we can reset our exp on attributes? If here's this solution, I'll be very happy too.
If I start my "changing to melee" work now, I can't finish it when I'm LV 110 or 120.

BTW, my EXP farming rate has been decreased to 1/4, too. I can't imagine how many months will be throw on this "back to melee" work.

This post has been edited by vean: Feb 5 2011, 17:33

I have Lv 5 Weakness/Bewilder...and 5 Slow to make sure I have max MP to damage rate. 1 Poison, because poison't damage have no effect on their damage, I think.

The AP is one of the sulutions I will totally accecpt.
I can't accepted that I need 1000+ Artifact to reach this objective. If artifact to ap transfer rate is same as 0.4.8, I won't write any post. I'll start my Artifact farming.

You might want to get lvl 5 posion and train prof or you will have some happy fun time with Schoolgirls and gods (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And yes you need 1000+ artifacts and you will easily get them if you train Scavenger enough.

If they can kill you with normal attack you will die even with all elemental spells available (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Hop about some points in END? Also max your HP tanks.

before now I survive by eat HPs, now it's immpossible since I kill boss much slower.
I have 60 END and max HP tank now
but boss still can kill me in a few attack if i do not eat HP.

before now I survive by eat HPs, now it's immpossible since I kill boss much slower.
I have 60 END and max HP tank now
but boss still can kill me in a few attack if i do not eat HP.

60 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
I have 82 END+1 and maxed HP tank... I can't take down Mithra, too. and 53+5 STR.
I don't think it's a very low number for mages.

before now I survive by eat HPs, now it's immpossible since I kill boss much slower.
I have 60 END and max HP tank now
but boss still can kill me in a few attack if i do not eat HP.

If you raise deprecating prof enough, all the bosses die by poison alone, use magic missile and ET to recover mana, get a better ET staff, use the mana to recover HP and recast weaken/bewilder, if you HP high, you never die by 1-shot.

This post has been edited by Ichy: Feb 5 2011, 17:37

You might want to get lvl 5 posion and train prof or you will have some happy fun time with Schoolgirls and gods (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And yes you need 1000+ artifacts and you will easily get them if you train Scavenger enough.

Posion...I don't have AP for soul Tier-1 and Holy. Poison 5?! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Scavenger...Did Tenboro lower the cost of Scavenger at 0.5.0? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Scavenger 22,474 for next 0.1%
Archaeologist 142,624 for next 0.05%

1000+ Artifacts is IMPOSSBLE. If I really have them, I'll sell them and use the credits to open a bounty list^^
It's more interesting that give them to snowflake and sleep around SCROLL OF LIFES.

Posion...I don't have AP for soul Tier-1 and Holy. Poison 5?! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Scavenger...Did Tenboro lower the cost of Scavenger at 0.5.0? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Scavenger 22,474 for next 0.1%
Archaeologist 142,624 for next 0.05%

1000+ Artifacts is IMPOSSBLE. If I really have them, I'll sell them and use the credits to open a bounty list^^
It's more interesting that give them to snowflake and sleep around SCROLL OF LIFES.

Get soul spells later (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You will get them given some time. Every day one or 2 will drop end this will become better the more you play.

HV is not made to 'win' in 1-2 days.

Jesus.. you need more spells? Pulls AP from Tanks and get a new spell and play smart. It's that simple... like Alpha7 used to do.

The problem in your character CAN be solve, if you want to.

low-level, whatever you call it.

It cost me months to reach this level, and change to melee again will cost months.

It will cost me millions of exp to change back to melee. Impossible...or we can reset our exp on attributes? If here's this solution, I'll be very happy too.
If I start my "changing to melee" work now, I can't finish it when I'm LV 110 or 120.

BTW, my EXP farming rate has been decreased to 1/4, too. I can't imagine how many months will be throw on this "back to melee" work.

Honestly, you shouldn't even be maging at that level.
Most of the high level people here switched to mage at around lvl 150 or higher, with no problems at all.
It's just this mage craze that people want to start maging at very low levels.

Either just save up money for the AP, which is ridiculously cheaper now, or make the switch to melee.
Get rid of the idea that you need Artifacts for HP. That was for before the patch when AP training was double/triple the cost.

Grindfest 3k a day, and just do the arenas + IW for loot. You should be able to buy all your AP needs with 1 week of grinding. And if you complain that 1 week of grinding is too hard/too long, then HV isn't the game for you.

Honestly, you shouldn't even be maging at that level.
Most of the high level people here switched to mage at around lvl 150 or higher, with no problems at all.
It's just this mage craze that people want to start maging at very low levels.

To be fair, I switched at 80 back then and had no problems. I had pretty shitty equip too IIRC. The availability of elementalist equip wasn't anything like it is now.

We, low-level mages, are only calling for a method.
Low-level mage should have a method to live--We are not calling for hard, nintendo or BT. We are only want a objective we can reach.

Just a poor wage. Just a little hop.
It's a so low-level objective. We only want to pass the normal Arena, and defeat the random Mithra.

Get 20 AP from 2000 Artifacts? Yes, if we can get them from 200. It's a very fair solution to rise the AP/Attribute rate for low-level player. Your high-ubers don't need them at all, right?

Change to fighter or Add END/STR? Yes, if we can reset the exp. I can only reach 100/120F now, and can't get enough mana potions to retry.

Sparks and Silence and Steal ET? Yes, if we can get them from scrolls, or lower level ability trees.

For random Mithra, we have no solutions, no methods. It can't be defeated by a full-elmentalist low-level mage now.

For random Mithra, we have no solutions, no methods. It can't be defeated by a full-elmentalist low-level mage now.

What is this Mithra's are impossible to beat nonsense? I'm seriously tempted to go kill one on BT naked with just a random oak staff equipped and using Magic Missile as my only damage spell. Just to prove a point.
Though then people will say I could only do it because I'm such a high level.....

hyl, go prove my point for me.

This one is a lost cause... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Get 20 AP from 2000 Artifacts? Yes, if we can get them from 200. It's a very fair solution to rise the AP/Attribute rate for low-level player. Your high-ubers don't need them at all, right?


For random Mithra, we have no solutions, no methods. It can't be defeated by a full-elmentalist low-level mage now.

Cool down bro, something like 25% chance to get AP.
Also like Rei-Tenshi seid AP training has become MUCH cheaper so the cost to get AP is about the same (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

For Mithra we already presented you a solution. its your fault for not considering it.

Honestly, you shouldn't even be maging at that level.
Most of the high level people here switched to mage at around lvl 150 or higher, with no problems at all.
It's just this mage craze that people want to start maging at very low levels.

Either just save up money for the AP, which is ridiculously cheaper now, or make the switch to melee.
Get rid of the idea that you need Artifacts for HP. That was for before the patch when AP training was double/triple the cost.

Grindfest 3k a day, and just do the arenas + IW for loot. You should be able to buy all your AP needs with 1 week of grinding. And if you complain that 1 week of grinding is too hard/too long, then HV isn't the game for you.

Cost months to swtich back to fighter again?
You can have a look at my join date. It REALLY cost months and Kilos of Credits to build such a low-level mage. Buy everything, sell all rubbish, and so on.

3K a day? I've been GF 500 a day for months as really low level player for months, until I finally have some credits to start my mage path. If I'm a donate player, only five-star or catgirl can make my life a litter easier.

Hey buddy, everyone have their problem. You can't just think they are egg-headed fool.

Your guys are old player, that's true. Not here to aggro with you.
And all I want is just a changing method, not like "just login and look at the Dawn Event and waiting for you have enough EXP swtich back to fighters again".

But 0.5.0 just fuck us low-level mage, not the high level. I don't know why. Perhaps we do something evil?

Mana potion rate decreased to 1/2 and lower. OK.
Artifact to AP/Atrribute rate decreased to 1/5 and lower. OK.
Custom monster prevent us from easy farming. OK.
Now random BOSSES with higher resist can only take down by HOLY spell, with normal monster HOLY resist 100%.

What should we do to "change paths"?

This post has been edited by vean: Feb 5 2011, 18:07

hyl, go prove my point for me.

On BT i needed 467 turns to beat mithra with just magic missle and without a staff, i had to waste 12 average mana potions and 2 spark of life (well you can have scroll of lifes so that's no factor)
Because i was replicating a low level person, i did not use arcane focus, regen 2, silence or nerf.

On BT his spirit attack did 7k with weaken so i used weaken, blind and shadow viel, when his spirit was used up i switched to weaken and bewilder

Well i didn't go completely naked, but that was just some random earthwalker gear that i was wearing for grinding prof

Problem is that it was done on a RoB and not on a random encounter

Not impossible but still a pain on BT killing a mithra with just magic missiles.

This post has been edited by hyl: Feb 5 2011, 18:18

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Mana potion rate decreased to 1/2 and lower. OK.

only by 25%

Artifact to AP/Atrribute rate decreased to 1/5 and lower. OK.

about 25% I think. not counting rare stat ponts.

Custom monster prevent us from easy farming. OK.

They don`t.

Now random BOSSES with higher resist can only take down by HOLY spell, with normal monster HOLY resist 100%.

read the fucking posts.

What is this Mithra's are impossible to beat nonsense? I'm seriously tempted to go kill one on BT naked with just a random oak staff equipped and using Magic Missile as my only damage spell. Just to prove a point.
Though then people will say I could only do it because I'm such a high level.....

hyl, go prove my point for me.

The different of AP and primary attributes, I think. And such highlevel, too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
If I have -- not so much, just END/INT/WIS +4 or +5 and 15-20 more AP points, I can take down them with magic missile too.

But that's...Impossbile. I can't take down an arena-level or 100 Normal IW/BT Mithra with my elmemtalist spell. 120-130 Spell Damage basic and almost 200 with infusions, per 13 mana (If I use 7 mana version this number will decrease more 30%). It has 60000+ HP...

What is this Mithra's are impossible to beat nonsense? I'm seriously tempted to go kill one on BT naked with just a random oak staff equipped and using Magic Missile as my only damage spell. Just to prove a point.
Though then people will say I could only do it because I'm such a high level.....

hyl, go prove my point for me.

You can use heavy, I bet with 50 points of interference = random failing spells+slower+50% magic damage reduction, we can still kill them.

Edit:
Oh, and we forgot infusions, they solve the problem of elements, and they're cheap.

This post has been edited by cmdct: Feb 5 2011, 18:16