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For me, I can accept 2 futures:

A FAIR artifact system. Then I can build my ALL ELMENTAL Mage.
At same level, your old players have plenty of AP and attributes. We have plenty of scroll of lifes. We can't reach your strength with 1000+ Artifact. At this version, Chance of AP/Atrributes decrease to 10% of last version.


Or, lower the normal difficulty. I don't want to play Killzone Arena with dangerous.

i don't mean easy play comes by easy way

does a elementist naturally kill all monsters in one hits? NO !

i have tried hard that is the iintrinsic factor bring my charactar beaten down all monster in one hits

we low level elementist are taking high risky with one kill by monster too

but now we got only killed by monsters

(...)
I believe, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN PASS NORMAL ARENA. A LV 95 good mage can't pass normal arena if he's unlucky.

This:

It wasn't supposed to be easy in lower levels in the first place. And good thing that's like that, finally the Gods become like they used to be: The ultimate HV monsters.

Get better gear, raise other stats, become smarter.

For me, I can accept 2 futures:

A FAIR artifact system. Then I can build my ALL ELMENTAL Mage.
At same level, your old players have plenty of AP and attributes. We have plenty of scroll of lifes. We can't reach your strength with 1000+ Artifact. At this version, Chance of AP/Atrributes decrease to 10% of last version.
Or, lower the normal difficulty. I don't want to play Killzone Arena with dangerous.

This:

You know Ability Boost become cheaper.
I have 50 and next one will only cost 15,945C, in other words the price of ~2 artifacts.

About the arenas, they used to have a fee, which you would lose it if you lose the challenge. Now you don't ever lose credits.
Conclusion to you or whatever other crybabies: It fair now.

This: Get better gear, raise other stats, become smarter.

How? 1000+ Artifacts?
I don't think I can get better gear now. They are too expansive for me. I almost got elementalist everthing I can get...

I only need a hope. How to strength my charater?

I'm training level 31/100 AP now, that's not low for a mid-level mage, right? But if I want to pass a normal GF to 200, or 100LV end game, I need at least 30 more AP, because there are a HOLY WEAKNESS BOSS. He will appears at any time.

All roads has been sealed for we mid-level mages.

In fact I can not kill something even in two shots if it have strong res, an Apathetic Canuck still live after my three blizzards, and I have to say I'm lucky since ever spell hitted him.
If I havn't used godly HP, maybe I already dead in ONE-ON-ONE with an Apathetic Canuck.
I have abandoned my all defense to burst my ice power, I think this is unfair.

This post has been edited by wing130083: Feb 5 2011, 16:53

And for stats. If I add my exp on STR/DEX/AGI/END or other things, here's only 1 possible: more enemies survives from my spell.

And more chance of their hits, crits, die on the ground. And of course millions of EXP to change path to warrior.

I don't know how to get so much XP. I will be killed by boss at item worlds any time, because I don't have enough AP to spent on holy to destroy Mithra. It resists ALL ELEMENTAL.

In fact I can not kill something even in two shots if it have strong res, an Apathetic Canuck still live after my three blizzards, and I have to say I'm lucky since ever spell hitted him.
If I havn't used godly HP, maybe I already dead in ONE-ON-ONE with an Apathetic Canuck.
I have abandoned my all defense to burst my ice power, I think this is unfair.

Get a second element to fix that.
If you are desperate you could even kill it with poison.

I don't know how to get so much XP. I will be killed by boss at item worlds any time, because I don't have enough AP to spent on holy to destroy Mithra. It resists ALL ELEMENTAL.

poison/silence --> ether theft for free cures

This post has been edited by Ichy: Feb 5 2011, 16:58

Get a second element to fix that.
If you are desperate you could even kill it with poison.

That's impossbile.
There are 4 bosses at normal IW/GF:Weakness Elec, Fire, Cold and HOLY.

FUCK HOLY. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
How can I get a second holy elemental by 31/100 training and about 5-6 Artifact AP? It will appear at ENDGAME by 1/4 chance!

That's impossbile.
There are 4 bosses at normal IW/GF:Weakness Elec, Fire, Cold and HOLY.

FUCK HOLY. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
How can I get a second holy elemental by 31/100 training and about 5-6 Artifact AP? It will appear at ENDGAME by 1/4 chance!

So what thanks to ether theft you have infinite mana.

Keep it poisoned and silenced and use ether theft for free mana. use your strongest AoE whenever you have spare mana.
Just a few extra clicks.

poison/silence --> ether theft for free cures

And silence isn't a mid level skill. I'll get it at LV110. And Sparks at LV100. Before these, all "infinite mana" is just a fantasy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I've done my test: I can't defeat a Blood of Rings Mithra(same strength as LV100 IW or arena LV100, I think) with elemantal spell, with sparks of life(from scrolls).

I must use HOLY; but I can't get them. People have 1/10-1/15 chance to get a AP from artifacts. At least I needs 6 AP to get a almost useless holy tree; if I want a working holy tree, can train prof, destroy bosses, it will cost 11AP or 22AP.

This post has been edited by vean: Feb 5 2011, 17:09

please set double resist monster in higher battlefield like Hard Heroic or Nightmare

This post has been edited by teeeen: Feb 5 2011, 17:08

Get a second element to fix that.
If you are desperate you could even kill it with poison.
poison/silence --> ether theft for free cures

As you see lv100 we have four bosses that their weakness is fire cold elec and holy
Can you show me how to get so many spells to kill them?
silence? they can kill a lv100 mage even use normal attack

If the old strategy isn't working, then you may just have to change it up. If you're getting killed by everything, try weakening all the monsters before you start AoEing. It pulled me through pretty well on low levels, and it isn't terribly mana intensive.

This being how the game was supposed to be played is kinda refreshing. Like most other players, I didn't realize resistances and multi-proc CM were bugs. With access to AP reset, variable EXP stat costs and lower difficulties, it is basically never too late to change it up if you can't advance. Complaining about having to use different options (changing setups, using elemental explosions, etc.) is kinda pointless when everything is going pretty much as intended now.

And my ability trees.

I don't think it's the worst one in all mid-level mages (LV50-130).

I've look at it for many times, can't find where can I get my full working spell tree APs.
At level 100, I'll need 5 for sparks at level 100. 1 for Aura 3, 1 for Cure 2, 6 for HP/MP tanks = 13 AP total, that's why there are 10 AP unused.

And 11 for Soul Tier 1. I don't know where can I find them, so I just forgot them. Someday I'll need them...Some day, not now.

Reset cost already very high now. 1243C isn't a small fee for we mid-level mages.

If you low levels are having such a hard time maging, then switch to melee.
You aren't meant to have an easy time with a mage at that low of a level anyway.

And no, I wouldn't call level 100 "mid-level".

And silence isn't a mid level skill. I'll get it at LV110. And Sparks at LV100. Before these, all "infinite mana" is just a fantasy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I've done my test: I can't defeat a Blood of Rings Mithra(same strength as LV100 IW or arena LV100, I think) with elemantal spell, with sparks of life(from scrolls).

I must use HOLY; but I can't get them. People have 1/10-1/15 chance to get a AP from artifacts. At least I needs 6 AP to get a almost useless holy tree; if I want a working holy tree, can train prof, destroy bosses, it will cost 11AP or 22AP.

Weaken/Bewilder is your friend (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Keep your health at max to survive th spirit attack.
Again... use poison. it deals damage and make it regenerate MP and SP slower.

As you see lv100 we have four bosses that their weakness is fire cold elec and holy
Can you show me how to get so many spells to kill them?
silence? they can kill a lv100 mage even use normal attack

If they can kill you with normal attack you will die even with all elemental spells available (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Hop about some points in END? Also max your HP tanks.

In need of AP? Go do some easy modo item worlds for Artifacts and loot.

All roads has been sealed for we mid-level mages.

Between the rise of mages and 4.8 (when the bug was introduced) it passed 1 year. The roads weren't closed.

And silence isn't a mid level skill. I'll get it at LV110. And Sparks at LV100.

I've done my test: I can't defeat a Blood of Rings Mithra(same strength as LV100 IW or arena LV100, I think) with elemantal spell, with sparks of life(from scrolls).

I must use HOLY; but I can't get them. People have 1/10-1/15 chance to get a AP from artifacts. At least I needs 6 AP to get a almost useless holy tree; if I want a working holy tree, can train prof, destroy bosses, it will cost 11AP or 22AP.

If you raise deprecating prof enough, all the bosses die by poison alone, use magic missile and ET to recover mana, get a better ET staff, use the mana to recover HP and recast weaken/bewilder, if you HP high, you never die by 1-shot.

I'm gonna explain a little about stats so you young people stop complaining too much:
They hit too hard:
-Raise END/AGI to the current level.
I miss too much:
-Raise STR/DEX until 10 levels below the current level.
What about INT/WIS?
Use the rest of exp left to raise them.

Staff: Use a better ET staff, allows to recover mana better, even if that costs raw power

Spells:
6 AP tier 1 elec
6 AP tier 1 fire
15 AP weaken/bewilder/poison
xAP in HP/MP tanks

In fact I can not kill something even in two shots if it have strong res, an Apathetic Canuck still live after my three blizzards, and I have to say I'm lucky since ever spell hitted him.
If I havn't used godly HP, maybe I already dead in ONE-ON-ONE with an Apathetic Canuck.
I have abandoned my all defense to burst my ice power, I think this is unfair.

Canuck resists ice magic. Did you mis-speak, or have you not read the wiki?
I've found the changes make the game somewhat easier. You just have to target monsters elemental weaknesses.
Oh, and the single target spells for fire, cold, elec, and holy only costs you 4 AP total. you know, if you're desperate to attack weaknesses.

If the old strategy isn't working, then you may just have to change it up. If you're getting killed by everything, try weakening all the monsters before you start AoEing. It pulled me through pretty well on low levels, and it isn't terribly mana intensive.

This being how the game was supposed to be played is kinda refreshing. Like most other players, I didn't realize resistances and multi-proc CM were bugs. With access to AP reset, variable EXP stat costs and lower difficulties, it is basically never too late to change it up if you can't advance. Complaining about having to use different options (changing setups, using elemental explosions, etc.) is kinda pointless when everything is going pretty much as intended now.

We are talking about the change method, right? I've change my AP tree to Fire+Cold+Elec, not enough.

We just need a method: All LV50-110 mage should have hope.
At 0.5.0, We have no hope, that's the problem.

We should killed by Mithra every time? Flee when we see her name? It's 1/4 chance at endgame, buddy. Not a small chance. And it always appears at normal IW/GF. I meet her almost everyday.
If here's a method, we are all doing that now, not crying in this post. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Honestly, before 5.0 dropped I was expecting to get horribly, anally reamed as a mage. I expected Tenboro to shove a grenade up my ass and detonate it.

When the only "nerfs" turned out to a minor ET/CM change and some minor equip nerfs (the phase thing still annoys me, but for different reasons), I was shocked. Even if we consider the resistance change as the actual nerf, I'm basically pleasantly surprised.

I can still one-shot Hell/Nintendo with a fair amount of consistency. I couldn't one-shot Normal as a melee. I can still clear Legendary arenas 10x faster than a melee can. Mages are STILL overpowered. Be happy it wasn't worse.

And yes, I am aware that I'm a rather special case. Even so, IMO, arenas shouldn't be any harder for standard elementalist mages. You guys just need to be more intelligent about your spell casting choices.