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The Official Hentaiverse Chat, Post your random thoughts or theorycrafts about HV |
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Oct 27 2010, 22:53
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CastleAge
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Hate it -.-'
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Oct 27 2010, 23:30
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grumpymal
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Sonuvabitch. Guess I'll go flood the Bazaar with all the junk I've got on my sell-to-bazaar list.
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Oct 28 2010, 00:52
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Oct 27 2010, 14:19)  If you haven't already seen...
He spends entirely too much time trying to deter us outliers from actually accomplishing something worthwhile in the HV. It's not harming anything in the slightest. Pretty much everything earned is put back into the HV in some form, such as for the already ridiculously disproportionate training costs. Someone levels the playing field a bit and it's immediately removed. What a joke.
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Oct 28 2010, 00:58
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CastleAge
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Thats why i suggested we could get another kind of money on HV.. change C to $ And we could use $ only on HV, but we could change $ to C the same way we change GP to C, maybe 20$ to 1C
This way those changes wouldnt affect those who only care about HV (I'm on of those...)
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Oct 28 2010, 01:00
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4EverLost
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hitokiri84, aren't you the only one able to playing that arena?
I think it would be interesting to see how many credits/hath high level people have spent in training.
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Oct 28 2010, 01:25
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grumpymal
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 27 2010, 18:52)  He spends entirely too much time trying to deter us outliers from actually accomplishing something worthwhile in the HV. It's not harming anything in the slightest. Pretty much everything earned is put back into the HV in some form, such as for the already ridiculously disproportionate training costs. Someone levels the playing field a bit and it's immediately removed. What a joke.
I agree. We can earn those credits because we spent those credits in the first place. And we need more credits to keep spending them. All of the credits I earn these days go into the ridiculously priced higher-level training. I agree that some people can gain absurd amounts of credits, but there's got to be a better way of balancing funds across the site's features than just nerfing.
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Oct 28 2010, 01:50
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Oct 27 2010, 18:00)  hitokiri84, aren't you the only one able to playing that arena?
I think it would be interesting to see how many credits/hath high level people have spent in training.
Yes, but it's not just that one. It's End of Days and The Twilight as well. Unless someone else is also playing those daily for credits, then the trophy nerfing is targeting me specifically, and everyone else is being dragged down by proxy. I know I'm sick and tired of playing by the rules only to have them changed at the first sign of success. QUOTE(cmal @ Oct 27 2010, 18:25)  I agree. We can earn those credits because we spent those credits in the first place. And we need more credits to keep spending them. All of the credits I earn these days go into the ridiculously priced higher-level training.
Which is what anyone of substantial level is doing. It's not like they're being using for unlimited downloads, putting strain on the servers. That's what the millions of untouched GP on my account are for...
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Oct 28 2010, 02:18
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grumpymal
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 27 2010, 19:50)  Yes, but it's not just that one. It's End of Days and The Twilight as well. Unless someone else is also playing those daily for credits, then the trophy nerfing is targeting me specifically, and everyone else is being dragged down by proxy. I know I'm sick and tired of playing by the rules only to have them changed at the first sign of success.
I don't even play arenas anymore. Occasionally, I'll jump into one of the easy ones to grind a spell because its behind, or because I'm getting ready to level and I don't want to do it in an IW. Any trophies I've got are from what I see in IW and that load I got from trying to clear the Legendary Slogs. In fact, I'd risk saying its Tenboro's fault for designing those arenas that way. Anyone who can clear them have access to ludicrous amounts of possible credits. Its a challenge, but once you figure out a strategy, you can farm all you want. QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 27 2010, 19:50)  Which is what anyone of substantial level is doing. It's not like they're being using for unlimited downloads, putting strain on the servers. That's what the millions of untouched GP on my account are for...
My 30-odd galleries generate enough GP for me to download anything and everything I could ever want. And as far as straining servers, my downloads usually end up around the time when the archive discounts are in effect, so even when I do download, it happens to coincide with the off-peak hours.
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Oct 28 2010, 02:18
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20200
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 27 2010, 16:50)  Yes, but it's not just that one. It's End of Days and The Twilight as well. Unless someone else is also playing those daily for credits
I've been doing one-ish of those a day.
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Oct 28 2010, 02:38
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4EverLost
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QUOTE All of the credits I earn these days go into the ridiculously priced higher-level training. -61,258 - Skill Training: Adept Learner -59,700 - Skill Training: Adept Learner -58,180 - Skill Training: Adept Learner -56,698 - Skill Training: Adept Learner -55,253 - Skill Training: Adept Learner -53,844 - Skill Training: Adept Learner -52,470 - Skill Training: Adept Learner -51,131 - Skill Training: Adept Learner Total 448,534 (add 125k more that I'll do later) so +10% EXP for ~600k gone in 8-10 hours
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Oct 28 2010, 03:11
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Conquest101
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Oct 27 2010, 17:18)  I've been doing one-ish of those a day.
*cough* I'm part of the problem as well. I haven't downloaded a gallery with GP/credits in ages though. All my credits go to training or purchasing Hath. Admittedly, Hath prices have been inflating pretty crazily, but the whole market is doing that, not just us. Also, I would think inflating Hath prices would be good for Tenboro as it encourages more people to donate or run H@H. Still, it's all speculation until we know what he'll actually change. I'd actually be cool with him say cutting Legendary trophy drop rate to a 50% chance and reducing sale prices if he finally applied LoD to the shrine (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Oh and hito, stop ruining it for the rest of us. Jeez. *shakes fist* This post has been edited by Conquest101: Oct 28 2010, 03:12
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Oct 28 2010, 03:26
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hitokiri84
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Not my fault he designed those challenges that way. Even playing all 3 of these every day would take a year to complete all relevant HV training (AL, Scavenger, QM, LoD, Arch, not including AP.) I remember all the complaining about them back when they were unveiled (self included,) so I'm just glad it finally came back to bite him. I might have to start charging a king's ransom for every piece of equipment I sell depending on the extent of this nerfing. (How many times is this? I've lost count. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) )
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Oct 28 2010, 03:34
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Conquest101
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 27 2010, 18:26)  Not my fault he designed those challenges that way. Even playing all 3 of these every day would take a year to complete all relevant HV training (AL, Scavenger, QM, LoD, Arch, not including AP.) I remember all the complaining about them back when they were unveiled (self included,) so I'm just glad it finally came back to bite him. I might have to start charging a king's ransom for every piece of equipment I sell depending on the extent of this nerfing. (How many times is this? I've lost count. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ) Well, if he nerfs equipment sales enough, nobody but the high levels will be able to afford it anymore (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif). I imagine auctions like the ones me and Boggy did the past few weeks aren't going to generate those kind of bids anymore, assuming we are still able to get anything worth auctioning. And like I'm not already paying a king's ransom. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by Conquest101: Oct 28 2010, 03:35
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Oct 28 2010, 03:49
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20200
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Oct 27 2010, 18:34)  Well, if he nerfs equipment sales enough, nobody but the high levels will be able to afford it anymore (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif). Wouldn't equipment prices decrease? QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Oct 27 2010, 18:34)  I imagine auctions like the ones me and Boggy did the past few weeks aren't going to generate those kind of bids anymore
Probably not.
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Oct 28 2010, 03:53
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Conquest101
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Oct 27 2010, 18:49)  Wouldn't equipment prices decrease?
That was referring to the ridiculous training costs and hito's statement about charging "a king's ransom" for his equipment.
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Oct 28 2010, 03:59
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20200
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Oh, yes. As to only the absurdly high level being able to afford it, how is that different from now?
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Oct 28 2010, 04:17
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hitokiri84
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I mean I'll have to set my "minimum" a bit higher. Everything else is what you (and others) make of it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) It really irks me that Tenboro eliminates any and all means to make credits through the HV (i.e. to complete the training.) Why even bother creating something if you remove all means to obtain it? It's completely imbalanced and makes no sense. QUOTE(Boggyb @ Oct 27 2010, 20:59)  Oh, yes. As to only the absurdly high level being able to afford it, how is that different from now?
If you are referring to my equipment, just be grateful I still need so many artifacts, or else I would switch to Hath. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And if you meant the training, no one can afford the end-of-the-line stuff. Not even me, milking the HV for all it's worth. This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Oct 28 2010, 04:32
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Oct 28 2010, 04:31
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20200
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 27 2010, 19:17)  And if you meant the training, no one can afford the end-of-the-line stuff.
This is the real issue.
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Oct 28 2010, 04:33
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Honeycat
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The fuck? (IMG:[ lulzimg.com] http://lulzimg.com/i8/4573cec9.gif) Aw... *soothes Hito* Poor lil' pookie. We still have our bromance to keep us warm.
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Oct 28 2010, 05:04
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20200
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I had forgotten how terrible shrine staffs were. Good credits, but terrible.
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