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Feb 1 2011, 21:38
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Feb 1 2011, 10:07)  legendary fighting gear = Fox/battlecaster? + these pantsQUOTE(Conquest101 @ Feb 1 2011, 10:11)  I'm not even going to bother with the Gods I think. I'm glad I hung onto all my awesome dark and holy mitigation gear. I just hope RL isn't too much of a problem with standard gear.
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Feb 1 2011, 21:59
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Feb 1 2011, 19:38)  + these pantsI'm glad I hung onto all my awesome dark and holy mitigation gear. I just hope RL isn't too much of a problem with standard gear. FSM has that many HP on BT if I recall Spawned Monster A: MID=24 (Real Life) LV=275 HP= 12284125 MP=215 SP=249 NA=50 Type=hostile Initializing arena challenge #109 (Round 1 / 1) ... Battle Start! - IWBTH now those are some nice pants. I've got 3 +40 demon-fiend pieces but my others aren't all that good, that's what I was using. I started RL but quit, I only went in with godly potions and didn't want to spend the time with ET to finish. I also save dark/holy mitigation gear, the stuff I have is all 25-27 anything lower I toss. I haven't used it in ages, you think that's going to help more then to just overwhelm them with damage?
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Feb 1 2011, 22:15
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Feb 1 2011, 13:59)  I haven't used it in ages, you think that's going to help more then to just overwhelm them with damage?
Yes. You're not going to overwhelm anything with that many HP, and that strategy, by Conquest I believe, to spam flower vases and gum barely worked against IPU on BT, so it's out of the picture too. The only alternative is to use extremely high mitigation and whittle them down over thousands of turns.
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Feb 1 2011, 22:31
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Feb 1 2011, 20:15)  Yes. You're not going to overwhelm anything with that many HP, and that strategy, by Conquest I believe, to spam flower vases and gum barely worked against IPU on BT, so it's out of the picture too. The only alternative is to use extremely high mitigation and whittle them down over thousands of turns.
I think you can do RL like that, but the others would be a lot harder. Going with channeling as often as you can helps but if you use that strategy on the other two I would think it best to only use them once your mana/life/spirit are gone. If you are only low on mana/life then use ET.
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Feb 1 2011, 23:00
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hitokiri84
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Well the point of using extreme mitigation is that you would use it in conjunction with Silence, and thus not need SP at all. Or items, if you're patient enough.
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Feb 1 2011, 23:10
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Feb 1 2011, 21:00)  Well the point of using extreme mitigation is that you would use it in conjunction with Silence, and thus not need SP at all. Or items, if you're patient enough.
Good luck, now's tougher without the prof bonus, and the mana recovery being reduced.
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Feb 1 2011, 23:14
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Eutopia
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so what is the highest total mitigation someone ever achieved ?
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Feb 1 2011, 23:20
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hitokiri84
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Before or after multiplicative calculation was introduced?
This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Feb 1 2011, 23:20
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Feb 1 2011, 23:20
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Eutopia
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Feb 1 2011, 22:20)  Before or after multiplicative calculation was introduced?
Both, if possible.
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Feb 1 2011, 23:28
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Eutopia @ Feb 1 2011, 21:14)  so what is the highest total mitigation someone ever achieved ?
With post nerf gear a lvl300 player with 300 proficiency could get 96.73% holy/dark mitigation max. Now it's 86.34% This post has been edited by cmdct: Feb 1 2011, 23:28
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Feb 2 2011, 00:08
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(Eutopia @ Feb 1 2011, 15:20)  Both, if possible.
Well before, I had over 120% for holy, which is why the multiplicative calculations were introduced. My Dark mit was around 100, but I know I've gotten better gear since then. Right now I've got 90.3% Holy and 88.4% Dark. QUOTE(cmdct @ Feb 1 2011, 15:28)  With post nerf gear a lvl300 player with 300 proficiency could get 96.73% holy/dark mitigation max. Now it's 86.34%
I think your numbers are off. My dark gear is all within post nerf values. Or you're not accounting for ratings. Also, the beefed-up IWBTH reminds me a lot of when I first started playing arenas on Battletoads. I have to cast Weaken on all the mid-bosses or they smash my face in. What's the highest anyone has beaten with the adjusted IWBTH? This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Feb 2 2011, 00:09
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Feb 2 2011, 00:13
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Feb 1 2011, 22:08)  I think your numbers are off. My dark gear is all within post nerf values. Or you're not accounting for ratings.
I'm using sonic's calc, the equip values came from cmal's calc, and I double checked (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (Well sonic's calc although gives the final result, also gives an error)
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Feb 2 2011, 00:22
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Golden Sun
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Ratings? 13.5% mitigation 10 from ap 2.5 from black aura 1 from rainbow
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Feb 2 2011, 00:56
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Feb 1 2011, 07:13)  I don't see a problem. I even forgot to switch to my legendary fighting gear. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) 0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=20 (Konata) LV=298 HP=3627000 MP=403 SP=0 NA=50 Type=hostile 0 1 Initializing arena challenge #105 (Round 1 / 1) ... 0 0 Battle Start! 112 7 Arena Clear Bonus! [Average Cotton Pants of the Thrice-blessed] 112 6 Konata dropped [Lock of Blue Hair] 112 5 You are Victorious! 112 4 Konata has been defeated. I don't have legendary fighting gear, I fight them in my normal arena gear.
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Feb 2 2011, 01:05
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Feb 1 2011, 22:08)  Well before, I had over 120% for holy, which is why the multiplicative calculations were introduced. My Dark mit was around 100, but I know I've gotten better gear since then. Right now I've got 90.3% Holy and 88.4% Dark. I think your numbers are off. My dark gear is all within post nerf values. Or you're not accounting for ratings. Also, the beefed-up IWBTH reminds me a lot of when I first started playing arenas on Battletoads. I have to cast Weaken on all the mid-bosses or they smash my face in. What's the highest anyone has beaten with the adjusted IWBTH?
I did trio&tree the day the patch came out on IWBTH. I had 1 or 2 of them dead with the others with just a few hp left. I was down to 241 spirit points and I thought I could get by with one more spark before using a potion (WRONG) I died. I was using my normal elemental stuff when I was doing it too, I was going to try doing them with my demon-fiend stuff yesterday but I didn't start the game in time so I missed it. I'll try them again today right before the dawn, got an hour to do all my other arenas my spirit-ward set is Dark Damage 74.9 % mitigation that's without a helm and 2 shitty parts. I must have sold off some of it by mistake. my armor is 27 and legs are 24. I know I had more in the 20-24 range but they are gone now.
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Feb 2 2011, 01:34
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Feb 1 2011, 17:05)  I did trio&tree the day the patch came out on IWBTH. I had 1 or 2 of them dead with the others with just a few hp left. I was down to 241 spirit points and I thought I could get by with one more spark before using a potion (WRONG) I died. I was using my normal elemental stuff when I was doing it too, I was going to try doing them with my demon-fiend stuff yesterday but I didn't start the game in time so I missed it. I'll try them again today right before the dawn, got an hour to do all my other arenas
IWBTH has been made considerably harder since the first day. I was talking about after that. This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Feb 2 2011, 01:37
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Feb 2 2011, 01:37
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Razorflame
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QUOTE(hyl @ Feb 1 2011, 08:14)  last month it wasn't edit: 2 7 You gain 3560.61 EXP! 2 6 God dropped [Flame Thrower] 2 5 You are Victorious! Wow, a divine flame thrower (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Last month, he was having issues with his old donation address donations@savethecatgirls.org If you want to donate now, you have to find out the new donation email address because he's changed over to that one. I donated at the beginning of last month and in the middle of last month and had no issues donating. IWBTH has been beefed up since yesterday? This post has been edited by Razorflame: Feb 2 2011, 01:39
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Feb 2 2011, 01:39
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hyl
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i think it was alertpay a few weeks ago, but i have no idea how that worked out for him
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Feb 2 2011, 01:42
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Razorflame
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I would rather he stick with Paypal because that's the only way I can donate.
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Feb 2 2011, 01:46
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hyl
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There were some issues with paypal that he decided to switch to alertpay
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