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post Feb 14 2013, 06:17
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Feb 13 2013, 22:44) *

They should have something but I think they are too high now with how easy it is now to get crystals/tokens and with no real way to counter some of it.

Right now they get to a ridiculous amount at your level, if they had our formulas ti wouldn't be so steep.
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post Feb 14 2013, 13:50
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We have monster PL inflation.
And mages get fucked hard because of it.

I wonder if I will be able to do IWBTH arenas if I am decked out in full legendary gear. Currently 3/6 and can't (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Feb 14 2013, 16:04
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Feb 14 2013, 13:50) *

We have monster PL inflation.
And mages get fucked hard because of it.

I wonder if I will be able to do IWBTH arenas if I am decked out in full legendary gear. Currently 3/6 and can't (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

You can but you have to choose the boring method.
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post Feb 14 2013, 16:10
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Feb 14 2013, 15:04) *

You can but you have to choose the boring method.


Which ain't too different from the melee method...
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post Feb 14 2013, 16:12
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Feb 14 2013, 21:10) *

Which ain't too different from the melee method...


Then what's the point of maging?
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post Feb 14 2013, 16:45
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Feb 14 2013, 16:12) *

Then what's the point of maging?

Giving Scorpio a Style to troll. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 14 2013, 19:20
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Feb 14 2013, 15:12) *

Then what's the point of maging?


No, no... You should really ask "what's the point of meleeing, if maging can be faster or longer-lasting according to the player's whims". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Feb 14 2013, 20:02
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so a lock of blue hair can drop leg too huh, that should depleted my luck for weeks
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post Feb 14 2013, 20:23
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Feb 15 2013, 00:20) *

No, no... You should really ask "what's the point of meleeing, if maging can be faster or longer-lasting according to the player's whims". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


You can't have both (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

As for melees you can be both fast and long lasting if you know what you're doing.
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post Feb 14 2013, 20:36
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Feb 14 2013, 19:23) *

You can't have both (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

As for melees you can be both fast and long lasting if you know what you're doing.

With future update I foresee shade+mace being more efficient than power+estoc, so I doubt melee will be significantly faster than mage.
Monsters' MMI is dropping to 60-70%, not to mention you get anti-resist with prof which drops again monsters' MMI, amirite ?
Mage's damage output will probably mainly stay, while melees still get a nerf imho.

Meh, guess the grass is always greener at the neighbors'
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post Feb 14 2013, 20:39
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QUOTE(pervdiz @ Feb 15 2013, 01:36) *

With future update I foresee shade+mace being more efficient than power+estoc, so I doubt melee will be significantly faster than mage.
Monsters' MMI is dropping to 60-70%, not to mention you get anti-resist with prof which drops again monsters' MMI, amirite ?
Mage's damage output will probably mainly stay, while melees still get a nerf imho.

Meh, guess the grass is always greener at the neighbors'


Nope. If the math is correct it'll be a general nerf of mage's damage while giving us anti-resist. Which means nothing since now we can't kill the mob, but for a different reason. Yay (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Feb 14 2013, 20:46
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Feb 14 2013, 19:39) *

Nope. If the math is correct it'll be a general nerf of mage's damage while giving us anti-resist. Which means nothing since now we can't kill the mob, but for a different reason. Yay (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

But we don't know the numbers yet, and tenb said the outcome should be that prof gear gets better. Depending on how he tweaks the numbers, high prof might have more dmg output than regular EDB gear in current state.
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post Feb 14 2013, 20:51
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QUOTE(pervdiz @ Feb 15 2013, 02:46) *

But we don't know the numbers yet, and tenb said the outcome should be that prof gear gets better. Depending on how he tweaks the numbers, high prof might have more dmg output than regular EDB gear in current state.


Nah, I think he meant to remove the prof bonus from the magical damage formula.
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post Feb 14 2013, 20:58
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QUOTE(varst @ Feb 14 2013, 19:51) *

Nah, I think he meant to remove the prof bonus from the magical damage formula.

It won't be directly in the dmg formula, but anti-resist will factor in and that applies to the resulting dmg output.

Well, that's how I see things, but maybe I'm just outright wrong.
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post Feb 14 2013, 21:00
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QUOTE(pervdiz @ Feb 15 2013, 02:58) *

It won't be directly in the dmg formula, but anti-resist will factor in and that applies to the resulting dmg output.

Well, that's how I see things, but maybe I'm just outright wrong.


Nah, having 10 monsters with 10% HP left is way more dangerous than having 1 monster with 100% HP. Remember the attacks from monsters, which will make a great difference on mages' paper defense.

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post Feb 15 2013, 16:35
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post Feb 15 2013, 16:37
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apparently people are finally realizing the value of int and str bindings
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post Feb 15 2013, 18:06
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That is, none?
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post Feb 15 2013, 20:00
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post Feb 15 2013, 22:51
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