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Jan 23 2011, 14:08
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hyl
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QUOTE(dkplee @ Jan 23 2011, 13:03)  Funny. It adds directly to my equip bonus on my screen. Care to deactivate your aura and check your magical accuracy bonus on your equip screen before and after?
it adds directly to your hit yes, but it doesn't increase your actually accuracy by 15%. Assume you have 86 magic hit accuracy. 86+ ((15/100)*14)= 2.1 your actualy chance to hit more is only 2.1% But that's not taking other equipment like staves and the cloth gear that gives accuracy in this calculation, which would mean that you would beneft even less. This post has been edited by hyl: Jan 23 2011, 14:10
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Jan 23 2011, 14:22
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dkplee
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Ah sorry, but yes, I'm referring to the to-hit bonus. The term was eluding me for a while.
My to-hit without aura: 61% With the aura at rank 1: 66%
My whole entire point is the 5% per rank adds directly to your to-hit, while your bonus from your equip only reduces your remaining miss chance from your to-hit bonus (eg wearing two pieces of +10% accuracy each gives you only +19% total), which is sort of a huge deal for us that just started maging.
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Jan 23 2011, 16:50
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Conquest101
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QUOTE(dkplee @ Jan 23 2011, 04:22)  Ah sorry, but yes, I'm referring to the to-hit bonus. The term was eluding me for a while. My to-hit without aura: 61% With the aura at rank 1: 66% My whole entire point is the 5% per rank adds directly to your to-hit, while your bonus from your equip only reduces your remaining miss chance from your to-hit bonus (eg wearing two pieces of +10% accuracy each gives you only +19% total), which is sort of a huge deal for us that just started maging.
The bonus from the violet aura doesn't add to your base hit chance, the value displayed on your character stats sheet. It adds to your +magical hit chance, basically your equipment bonus. The point is that you don't gain anywhere near an actual 15% accuracy increase. As hyl said, you gain an effective 2.1% overall accuracy increase with an 86% base hit chance and less as your base hit chance increases. Of course, you don't gain an effective 6% damage increase with the rating increases from the other auras either. Nobody knows for sure exactly how ratings factor into the damage equation either. For the record, I'm of the opinion that violet is better than indigo for low level mages. This post has been edited by Conquest101: Jan 23 2011, 16:50
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Jan 23 2011, 20:09
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hgbdd
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I just slaughtered 50 legendaries in 30 min, not bad but still boring, so time to rest a little.
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Jan 23 2011, 20:13
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 23 2011, 15:09)  I just slaughtered 50 legendaries in 30 min, not bad but still boring, so time to rest a little.
I hate you </3 I spent 2 days in End of Days because it takes so long for me to kill them and I simply don't have the patience :[
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Jan 23 2011, 20:18
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jan 23 2011, 18:13)  I hate you </3
I spent 2 days in End of Days because it takes so long for me to kill them and I simply don't have the patience :[
That's why I didn't do it often until I get this level. Now 4 hits of soul burst, and they're almost dead (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jan 23 2011, 20:21
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Honeycat
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I still haven't cleared End of Days and I don't think I ever will. Isn't that a hoot?
My Soul Burst is crap because I just recently got it and it doesn't work like everyone else's. Shit costs a lot of MP to cast, too.
This post has been edited by Tenseigamoon: Jan 23 2011, 20:22
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Jan 23 2011, 20:33
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Tenseigamoon @ Jan 23 2011, 18:21)  I still haven't cleared End of Days and I don't think I ever will. Isn't that a hoot?
My Soul Burst is crap because I just recently got it and it doesn't work like everyone else's. Shit costs a lot of MP to cast, too.
Perhaps you're using incorrectly. You need to cast the single target Soul fire (spell) to proc Soul fire (proc), then the damage of soul burst (doesn't proc soul fire only re-procs) is triplicated. Here's some tips: Essentially what I do is, cast nerf+weaken, cast soul fire until proc, cast soul burst until the legend is almost dead. Then I hunt some MP with ET and channeling to recast the supportive spells (spark,absorb, AF, regen II) (The explosion from the soul fire (proc), plus the dmg from magic missile make the legend die meanwhile)
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Jan 23 2011, 20:37
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(Tenseigamoon @ Jan 23 2011, 12:21)  I still haven't cleared End of Days and I don't think I ever will. Isn't that a hoot?
My Soul Burst is crap because I just recently got it and it doesn't work like everyone else's. Shit costs a lot of MP to cast, too.
I'm pretty much in the same boat, all my proficiencies except elemental are craptastic.
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Jan 23 2011, 21:16
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Jan 23 2011, 15:37)  I'm pretty much in the same boat, all my proficiencies except elemental are craptastic.
It's not just profs though. I've got 190.5 Divine prof, and with my equipment I get +66 Divine prof, and +40% holy damage. It still takes A LOT of Banishes to kill them. This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Jan 23 2011, 21:16
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Jan 23 2011, 21:27
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Honeycat
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 23 2011, 10:33)  Perhaps you're using incorrectly. You need to cast the single target Soul fire (spell) to proc Soul fire (proc), then the damage of soul burst (doesn't proc soul fire only re-procs) is triplicated. Here's some tips: Essentially what I do is, cast nerf+weaken, cast soul fire until proc, cast soul burst until the legend is almost dead. Then I hunt some MP with ET and channeling to recast the supportive spells (spark,absorb, AF, regen II) (The explosion from the soul fire (proc), plus the dmg from magic missile make the legend die meanwhile)
Hey, that seems to help (what I could understand of your post, anyway). I tested it in the Ring of Blood and then in To Kill A God. When I cast Soul Fire, it makes Soul Burst actually do some damage. Thanks for the tip. It eats up mana like crazy but at least I can try and make some headway. We really need a second quickcast bar.
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Jan 23 2011, 21:30
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Ichy
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 23 2011, 21:09)  I just slaughtered 50 legendaries in 30 min, not bad but still boring, so time to rest a little.
Time to grind my forbidden prof (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Jan 23 2011, 21:36
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jan 23 2011, 13:16)  It's not just profs though. I've got 190.5 Divine prof, and with my equipment I get +66 Divine prof, and +40% holy damage. It still takes A LOT of Banishes to kill them.
Probably still a lot less than WoT.
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Jan 24 2011, 04:49
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Raidy
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QUOTE(cmal @ Jan 24 2011, 01:18)  All your base are belong to me. (IMG:[ img254.imageshack.us] http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9090/allyourbase.png) usually when you view an item that is higher level than you, it shows the item benefits and in brackets what benefit you will actually get at your current level. You seem to be the same level as the item , so i assume you get the full benefits. how come there is also a second set of stats displayed?
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Jan 24 2011, 12:17
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hyl
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What are the higher level players doing with their left over tokens of blood, do the they save them to fight the legendaries for their trophies or waste them on normal bosses to get easy credits?
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Jan 24 2011, 14:28
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(hyl @ Jan 24 2011, 10:17)  What are the higher level players doing with their left over tokens of blood, do the they save them to fight the legendaries for their trophies or waste them on normal bosses to get easy credits?
I fight FSM everyday, and still have 42 tokens. If you can't do that, fighting the first 4 is an easy way to pick up 4k credits.
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Jan 24 2011, 22:44
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masquepiph
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I swear I must be the highest level player with the least amount of blood+chaos tokens. 27 chaos tokens since they started dropping, and only 1 of those was an actual drop and not an arena bonus.
Unrelated:
2 8 Arena Clear Bonus! [Lesser Health Potion] 2 7 Fire Fox dropped [Godly Health Potion] 2 6 You are Victorious!
How does that shit happen? I'm just curious how the loot rolls can be so different.
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