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Jan 22 2011, 21:47
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4EverLost
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last night i had the idea that i'd do 10 battletoad itemworlds in that new Exquisite Prism Tower Shield of Warding to see what kind of exp i could get. sofar i've done 0 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) and the first 3 arenas
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Jan 22 2011, 21:59
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Jan 22 2011, 10:46)  So you're using elemental spells to kill the legendaries... and you never use ET... And wtf? you're almost lvl150 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Jan 22 2011, 22:19
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 22 2011, 12:53)  There's people with even lower prof, and others with higher prof, so...
There's someone near level 250 with lower proficiencies than that?
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Jan 22 2011, 23:08
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Jan 22 2011, 20:19)  There's someone near level 250 with lower proficiencies than that?
I won't look for it, but there's lurkers which didn't tried maging, others even stick only to melee heavy gear. Outside the lurkers, I remember Tens, he went 270 levels using full plate gear, and masaki who leveled up 200 levels mostly in 2W/2H heavy gear in cake IW. This post has been edited by cmdct: Jan 22 2011, 23:09
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Jan 23 2011, 05:48
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Honeycat
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 22 2011, 13:08)  I won't look for it, but there's lurkers which didn't tried maging, others even stick only to melee heavy gear.
Outside the lurkers, I remember Tens, he went 270 levels using full plate gear, and masaki who leveled up 200 levels mostly in 2W/2H heavy gear in cake IW.
Yeah, I'd probably be level 500 by now if I'd started maging from the start. My staff and cloth proficiencies are really low but I'm leveling up faster this way anyway and I only play arenas. This way is so much easier, it's retarded. If I was a fat ass who sat around and played Grindfest all day, I'd level up every 2 days. I don't give a fuck anyway, all this shit is stupid. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jan 23 2011, 07:56
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grumpymal
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"of Bananas" should be a new equipment suffix.
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Jan 23 2011, 12:51
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tribalspirit
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QUOTE(Tenseigamoon @ Jan 23 2011, 04:48)  Yeah, I'd probably be level 500 by now if I'd started maging from the start. My staff and cloth proficiencies are really low but I'm leveling up faster this way anyway and I only play arenas. This way is so much easier, it's retarded. If I was a fat ass who sat around and played Grindfest all day, I'd level up every 2 days. I don't give a fuck anyway, all this shit is stupid. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) me also but i' regretting because i messed up with my auras slots and points i gotten red and orange that now while i'm electric maging are useless hoping in future for aura resets (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Jan 23 2011, 13:01
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dkplee
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Tribal, I think the elemental ratings from auras don't really make that big of a huge difference. But you should get violet asap. The accuracy bonus is added directly to the total bonus you get from your equipment, which is quite a big deal for us beginner mages. And orange is still useful if you want to grind proficiencies (aka ether theft forever in a crude item)
Speaking of which, I'm trying to work out when is a good time to train proficiencies. I'm leveling at a decent speed, so if I leave them alone, my proficiencies fall quite a ways behind, but if I train them every few levels, it's so unbearably slow... Ah well, I'll tough it out for now.
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Jan 23 2011, 13:14
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hyl
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QUOTE(dkplee @ Jan 23 2011, 12:01)  Tribal, I think the elemental ratings from auras don't really make that big of a huge difference. But you should get violet asap. The accuracy bonus is added directly to the total bonus you get from your equipment, which is quite a big deal for us beginner mages. And orange is still useful if you want to grind proficiencies (aka ether theft forever in a crude item)
Speaking of which, I'm trying to work out when is a good time to train proficiencies. I'm leveling at a decent speed, so if I leave them alone, my proficiencies fall quite a ways behind, but if I train them every few levels, it's so unbearably slow... Ah well, I'll tough it out for now.
why are you copying my reply on a low level mage, on his level the elemental ratings do matter. Also it doesn't matter that much in the long run if messed up your auras, unless you have invested more than 1 point on auras that you don't use. Because i still have 3 aura points left at lvl 170 and i had wasted 3 points red,green and orange aura when i was melee. This post has been edited by hyl: Jan 23 2011, 13:18
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Jan 23 2011, 13:25
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dkplee
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What the heck are you talking about, copying your reply?
And I never said elemental ratings don't matter. I'm saying it's not a huge deal if he doesn't have them. It's a difference of 10% or so damage. Either way, he can still aoe bomb is way to his next few aura points and get them in the very near future. And he should still get his violet aura up first. Directly reducing whatever his miss chance by another 15% or increasing some elemental spell by 6%, I think the choice is quite clear.
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Jan 23 2011, 13:27
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hyl
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QUOTE(dkplee @ Jan 23 2011, 12:25)  What the heck are you talking about, copying your reply? And I never said elemental ratings don't matter. I'm saying it's not a huge deal if he doesn't have them. It's a difference of 10% or so damage. Either way, he can still aoe bomb is way to his next few aura points and get them in the very near future. And he should still get his violet aura up first. Directly reducing whatever his miss chance by another 15% or increasing some elemental spell by 6%, I think the choice is quite clear.
10% damage when you can hit for 10.000+ damage does matter, not that it's even 10% from the aura's but less anyway. Magic accuracy isn't even increased as much you think with the 2 int. Magic Accuracy = 75 + INT / 25 + WIS / 40 you have 2/40 extra accuracy with 2 int, not 15% most of the time you will not get any magic accuracy from int or wisdom unless you have invested huge ammounts of stat points This post has been edited by hyl: Jan 23 2011, 13:32
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Jan 23 2011, 13:29
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dkplee
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I think you're deliberately not reading my posts.
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Jan 23 2011, 13:34
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hyl
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About reading, where have you read in tribalspirits post that he even said that he didn't have the violet aura. He only said that he messed up his auras
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Jan 23 2011, 13:44
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dkplee
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He actually did post his auras. He has all the melee ones, but didn't mention any of the mage ones, albeit he did so on a different post. I'm refraining from answering him on said post because I'd rather someone who knows better than me to give him the advice he wants, in case I'm wrong.
Except that now you're here making a big deal out of nothing. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, other than trying to argue with a strawman. If you really read my posts (I mean really read them), you'll find I never told him not to get the auras with the elemental ratings. Out of all the magical aura choices, I suggested violet first. And that is all I posted.
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Jan 23 2011, 13:48
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dkplee
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QUOTE(hyl @ Jan 23 2011, 03:27)  10% damage when you can hit for 10.000+ damage does matter, not that it's even 10% from the aura's but less anyway.
Magic accuracy isn't even increased as much you think with the 2 int.
Magic Accuracy = 75 + INT / 25 + WIS / 40
you have 2/40 extra accuracy with 2 int, not 15%
most of the time you will not get any magic accuracy from int or wisdom unless you have invested huge ammounts of stat points
Sorry for the double post, but hyl ninja editted here Now I have completely zero idea what you're trying to argue. No where in my post do I mention int. Violet aura has little to do with int (except 1 per rank, and even so, Indigo outstrips Violet there). So... I don't mean to sound condescending here, but what exactly is your point?
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Jan 23 2011, 13:52
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hyl
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QUOTE(dkplee @ Jan 23 2011, 12:25)  What the heck are you talking about, copying your reply? And I never said elemental ratings don't matter. I'm saying it's not a huge deal if he doesn't have them. It's a difference of 10% or so damage. Either way, he can still aoe bomb is way to his next few aura points and get them in the very near future. And he should still get his violet aura up first. Directly reducing whatever his miss chance by another 15% or increasing some elemental spell by 6%, I think the choice is quite clear.
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Jan 23 2011, 13:55
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dkplee
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Cept that has nothing to do with int? I'm referring to the magical accuracy bonus that is given directly from the violet aura, not the int bonus.
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Jan 23 2011, 14:00
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hyl
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QUOTE(dkplee @ Jan 23 2011, 12:55)  Cept that has nothing to do with int? I'm referring to the magical accuracy bonus that is given directly from the violet aura, not the int bonus.
there is an actual difference of a miss chance of 15% and an actual increase in your hit by 15% in the hit formula, incase you didn't know. Magic Chance to Hit = Magic Accuracy + (Magical +Hit Chance / 100) * (100 - Magic Accuracy) That 15% from the aura is an accuracy increase of less than 2%, even less when you have more than 87 base accuracy This post has been edited by hyl: Jan 23 2011, 14:04
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Jan 23 2011, 14:03
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dkplee
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Funny. It adds directly to my equip bonus on my screen.
Care to deactivate your aura and check your magical accuracy bonus on your equip screen before and after?
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