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post Oct 15 2012, 21:11
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BTW, any plan to reset your estoc? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Oct 15 2012, 21:53
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Oct 15 2012, 20:51) *

if you are that hard up for mana as melee then you must be doing something wrong.


I'm not, but I believe my point still stands.

We do have Battlecaster weapons which are akin to Focus staves, so having Economizer among weapon potencies seems reasonable enough.
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post Oct 15 2012, 22:48
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 15 2012, 21:53) *

I'm not, but I believe my point still stands.

We do have Battlecaster weapons which are akin to Focus staves, so having Economizer among weapon potencies seems reasonable enough.

Then I want 30 Magic Base damage for all 10 levels of Staff Prof too!
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post Oct 15 2012, 22:51
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 15 2012, 19:53) *

I'm not, but I believe my point still stands.

We do have Battlecaster weapons which are akin to Focus staves, so having Economizer among weapon potencies seems reasonable enough.



mages need mana to cast attack spells, melee doesn't need anything to attack
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post Oct 15 2012, 23:45
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Oct 15 2012, 22:51) *

mages need mana to cast attack spells, melee doesn't need anything to attack


But they need it to heal/defend/power-up. Since melee lack the killing speed of mages, the mana spent for "just" that is higher in comparison.

In the end, mana consumption is high in both cases. So, since mages get a suffix and a potency to reduce this cost, why shouldn't melee get a suffix AND a potency too?
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post Oct 16 2012, 00:23
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 15 2012, 21:45) *

But they need it to heal/defend/power-up. Since melee lack the killing speed of mages, the mana spent for "just" that is higher in comparison.

In the end, mana consumption is high in both cases. So, since mages get a suffix and a potency to reduce this cost, why shouldn't melee get a suffix AND a potency too?


can mages do 1000 rounds of BT without using any potions? Just how long would that take using ET. melee can do that.
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post Oct 16 2012, 00:43
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Fact: The mana consumption rate for melee in the current patch is amazingly low— the lowest since I began playing the game some few years ago... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Oct 16 2012, 03:45
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 16 2012, 00:43) *

Fact: The mana consumption rate for melee in the current patch is amazingly low— the lowest since I began playing the game some few years ago... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Free channeling procs, spirit stance and more health/regen thus less cures, is there anything else? The "new" interference counters that a bit though, unless you use shards.

Not that I disagree with you, though, before 200 I didn't need to use any pots while clearing my arenas. Now it was like 10 average ones for all of them (+some lesser out of combat) and got more than 70 godly ones in return.
I should really get rid of that not using pots mentality, I'm just so used to that from other RPGs. :<
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post Oct 16 2012, 05:43
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From 'Measuring problem video game playing in adolescents' by Ricardo A. Tejeiro Salguero & Rosa M. Bersabé Morán:

Dimensions of addiction and their correlates in the scale's items

Preoccupation
Item 1 - When I am not playing with the video games, I keep thinking about them, i.e. remembering games, planning the next game, etc.)

Tolerance
Item 2 - I spend an increasing amount of time playing video games

Loss of control
Item 3 - I have tried to control, cut back or stop playing, or I usually play with the video games over a longer period than I intended

Item 6 - When I lose in a game or I have not obtained the desired results, I need to play again to achieve my target

Withdrawal
Item 4 - When I can't use the video games I get restless or irritable

Escape
Item 5 - When I feel bad, e.g. nervous, sad, or angry, or when I have problems, I use the video games more often

Lies and deception
Item 7 - Sometimes I conceal my video game playing to the others, this is, my parents, friends, teachers…)

Disregard for the physical or psychological consequences
Item 8 - In order to play video games I have skipped classes or work, or lied, or stolen, or had an argument or a fight with someone

Family/schooling disruption
Item 9 - Because of the video game playing I have reduced my homework, or schoolwork, or I have not eaten, or I have gone to bed late, or I spent less time with my friends and family


They administered the 9-item questionnaire to 223 Spanish adolescents. Nobody got a perfect score, but there were some 8s. Only 4.9% answered "Yes" to the withdrawal question; contrast with the reaction when HV is down for a few minutes. Maybe they should have added "or panic." Mean score is probably a little higher here than in their results - 1.5 for females and 2.7 for males.

Full text (dry and boring; not as much fun as playing video games): [hera.ugr.es] http://hera.ugr.es/doi/15022742.pdf

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post Oct 16 2012, 06:16
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QUOTE(aiwotorimodose @ Oct 5 2012, 08:03) *

so, 10 days is all you need to get from lv 1 to lv268...


QUOTE(ginjok @ Oct 7 2012, 02:34) *

Dude's a "miracle" maker. It seems it ended (why you think); rose "just" to 274 now.


Another 7 days and 300, now 306. Fastest yet?
What this "player" could achieve in a couple months is really out of the "charts".
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post Oct 16 2012, 07:31
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 15 2012, 19:11) *

BTW, any plan to reset your estoc? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


I was thinking about it when I got Elec Strike but since I can use imperil its not so bad. After I level more of my gear and have nothing better to do I may try some other element strike weapons to compare their damage to mine on schoolgirls.

I would also rather use the shards on some other gear first.
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post Oct 16 2012, 08:02
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Holy Strike is pretty cool against Schoolgirls (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Oct 16 2012, 08:16
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Oct 16 2012, 12:31) *

I was thinking about it ...


Parting with Lv.5 Butcher sure is difficult, eh? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

... Thing would be much easier for us if the shard ain't so damn rare!  (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Oct 16 2012, 08:29
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Oct 16 2012, 06:02) *

Holy Strike is pretty cool against Schoolgirls (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


how much holy damage are you doing vs them with great stamina + spirit stance?
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post Oct 16 2012, 08:31
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 16 2012, 06:16) *

Parting with Lv.5 Butcher sure is difficult, eh? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

... Thing would be much easier for us if the shard ain't so damn rare!  (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


if it had 4 PA I would more willing to spend the time to get different element strikes.
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post Oct 16 2012, 08:43
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I know how you feel. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

My situation is an exact opposite though— Got the element that I wanted, but with shitty potency... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Oct 16 2012, 08:53
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Hm...will that be better if you can reset potency per level, but every time you reset that the cost (shards) will grow exponentially?
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post Oct 16 2012, 09:00
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QUOTE(varst @ Oct 16 2012, 08:53) *

Hm...will that be better if you can reset potency per level, but every time you reset that the cost (shards) will grow exponentially?


I already see people suggesting an amnesiashardfest if that happens.
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post Oct 16 2012, 09:22
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QUOTE(varst @ Oct 16 2012, 13:53) *

Hm...will that be better if you can reset potency per level, but every time you reset that the cost (shards) will grow exponentially?


Actually, I kinda like the way it work now— any game mechanic that psychologically messing with the player's head in a meaningful way is a good game mechanic if you ask me... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

And I think that for Tenb to implemented the reset thing at all was unusually generous already... Better to be on the safe side and avoid pissing him off! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Oct 16 2012, 09:37
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 16 2012, 07:22) *

Actually, I kinda like the way it work now— any game mechanic that psychologically messing with the player's head in a meaningful way is a good game mechanic if you ask me... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

And I think that for Tenb to implemented the reset thing at all was unusually generous already... Better to be on the safe side and avoid pissing him off! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)


just about everyone was bitching about the way IW worked so he added Spelunker, everyone kept on and he changed the max # of rounds it took to clear an item, everyone kept on and he lowered the number of rounds again, now just to piss everyone off even more he added a way for people to do even more IW in the same item. Now that is just evil (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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