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Oct 14 2012, 23:02
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dissu
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Seller Ended Volume Starting Bid Buyout Winning Bid Winner hentai71123 1M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 1M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 2M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 2M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 10M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 10M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 10M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 12M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 12M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu ThE AssA 28M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,750 C 15,750 C dissu ThE AssA 28M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,750 C 15,750 C dissu Master_S 28M ago 5 Hath 100 C 77,000 C 77,000 C dissu sabregimp 28M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissuJust wanted to obtain a Thumb Row perk, And I don't have enough patience to wait on WTB forum. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) This post has been edited by dissu: Oct 14 2012, 23:02
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Oct 14 2012, 23:25
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dissu
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Oct 14 2012, 19:37)  Now im out of Shards and my stick is worse than before...
Wish you luck, Ichy (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Oct 14 2012, 23:57
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Rah
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QUOTE(dissu @ Oct 14 2012, 16:02)  Seller Ended Volume Starting Bid Buyout Winning Bid Winner hentai71123 1M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 1M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 2M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 2M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 10M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 10M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 10M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 12M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu hentai71123 12M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissu ThE AssA 28M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,750 C 15,750 C dissu ThE AssA 28M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,750 C 15,750 C dissu Master_S 28M ago 5 Hath 100 C 77,000 C 77,000 C dissu sabregimp 28M ago 1 Hath 100 C 15,500 C 15,500 C dissuJust wanted to obtain a Thumb Row perk, And I don't have enough patience to wait on WTB forum. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) If you offered between 14.5k and 15.5k you would have gotten that Hath fairly quickly.
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Oct 15 2012, 00:01
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Oct 14 2012, 12:37)  Here we go again ~ another reset (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) /edit: Now im out of Shards and my stick is worse than before... Seems like a universal feeling towards the potency reset mechanic. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Good idea, bad implementation. I think a better use would be to have amnesia shards remove the most recently gained potency. It would still require a lot of shards and a lot of rollbacks, but you could at least eventually get what you want with enough effort. Complete resets makes this an exercise in futility since the chances to get what you want becomes infinitesimally small when you calculate the probabilities over 9-10 upgrades and 3-9 stat categories. QUOTE(dissu @ Oct 14 2012, 16:02)  Just wanted to obtain a Thumb Row perk, And I don't have enough patience to wait on WTB forum. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) A perfect example of why hath prices inflate the way they do.
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Oct 15 2012, 00:12
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Rah
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 14 2012, 17:01)  Seems like a universal feeling towards the potency reset mechanic. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Good idea, bad implementation. I think a better use would be to have amnesia shards remove the most recently gained potency. Oh boy. I assumed this was how Amnesia Shards worked, 1 shard per level removed from the weapon.
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Oct 15 2012, 00:31
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sigo8
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 14 2012, 15:01)  Seems like a universal feeling towards the potency reset mechanic. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Good idea, bad implementation. I think a better use would be to have amnesia shards remove the most recently gained potency. It would still require a lot of shards and a lot of rollbacks, but you could at least eventually get what you want with enough effort. Complete resets makes this an exercise in futility since the chances to get what you want becomes infinitesimally small when you calculate the probabilities over 9-10 upgrades and 3-9 stat categories. That's the point. You're not supposed to get it perfect, just get it good enough. Really, I'm pretty sure the main reason it was even implemented was so good equipment wouldn't be screwed when the system changed.
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Oct 15 2012, 06:57
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 14 2012, 22:01)  Seems like a universal feeling towards the potency reset mechanic. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Good idea, bad implementation. I think a better use would be to have amnesia shards remove the most recently gained potency. It would still require a lot of shards and a lot of rollbacks, but you could at least eventually get what you want with enough effort. Complete resets makes this an exercise in futility since the chances to get what you want becomes infinitesimally small when you calculate the probabilities over 9-10 upgrades and 3-9 stat categories. A perfect example of why hath prices inflate the way they do. When I asked if that was how it was going to work tenb pretty must said it would never work like that. Its too bad it doesn't work like that. Given time and shard any weapon could have the stats you want. The time may not be worth it in the end.
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Oct 15 2012, 09:53
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Hoheneim
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Oct 15 2012, 06:57)  When I asked if that was how it was going to work tenb pretty must said it would never work like that. Its too bad it doesn't work like that. Given time and shard any weapon could have the stats you want. The time may not be worth it in the end.
It's not like you're gonna ruin your equip if you get a potency you didn't want. Be content with what you get for your weapon and don't bother with armors unless you're really, really bored out of your mind. Amnesia shards should be the extrema ratio, not something to use daily baecause you didn't get that 5th level of Butcher or Economizer. This post has been edited by Hoheneim: Oct 15 2012, 10:06
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Oct 15 2012, 11:49
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Temchy
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First round at 200, I got a warm welcome from Eila 501, Elizabeth, Sakurai Kei and Noihara Himari. :< First impressions: -boy, shit's fast, can't get away w/o using haste anymore :( -"The Goddesses" suck, lol
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Oct 15 2012, 12:49
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Mantra64
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wrong thread
This post has been edited by Mantra64: Oct 15 2012, 12:50
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Oct 15 2012, 12:52
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Ichy
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 15 2012, 09:53)  It's not like you're gonna ruin your equip if you get a potency you didn't want.
Be content with what you get for your weapon and don't bother with armors unless you're really, really bored out of your mind. Amnesia shards should be the extrema ratio, not something to use daily baecause you didn't get that 5th level of Butcher or Economizer.
If you pour Materials worth many many millions into a gear chances are you want to make the pieces as good as possible.
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Oct 15 2012, 12:58
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varst
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Oct 15 2012, 18:52)  If you pour Materials worth many many millions into a gear chances are you want to make the pieces as good as possible.
Well, you SURELY have some reason to play now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (though it's quite a bit of ridiculous to call that reason')
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Oct 15 2012, 13:06
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Ichy
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QUOTE(varst @ Oct 15 2012, 12:58)  Well, you SURELY have some reason to play now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (though it's quite a bit of ridiculous to call that reason') Yeah I sure have. Never played this much ever since big Mage Nerf (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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Oct 15 2012, 14:17
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 15 2012, 14:53)  It's not like you're gonna ruin your equip if you get a potency you didn't want.
Be content with what you get for your weapon and don't bother with armors unless you're really, really bored out of your mind. Amnesia shards should be the extrema ratio, not something to use daily baecause you didn't get that 5th level of Butcher or Economizer.
Some of them are just too good to be ignored though. 26% mana conservation? That's HUGE. I daresay any staff that haven't got level 5 econ is a failstaff, including mine.
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Oct 15 2012, 16:46
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Hoheneim
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Oct 15 2012, 12:52)  If you pour Materials worth many many millions into a gear chances are you want to make the pieces as good as possible.
I'm with you on that. I just don't give potencies that much consideration. I don't think that getting 1 level of Agility in place of Swift Strike will make my weapon a piece of garbage to the point I'd have to start over. This game is designed so you can't reach perfection. And if you ever come close to it, the cost of doing so (time, credits, anything involved at all) wouldn't even make it worthwhile. Hell, I'm just waiting for the 10 level limit to be lifted/upped. That'd be awesome in more ways than one.
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Oct 15 2012, 18:15
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ChosenUno
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It's just 25% mana conservation is HUGE for every style, especially mages.
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Oct 15 2012, 19:31
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Hoheneim
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Oct 15 2012, 18:15)  It's just 25% mana conservation is HUGE for every style, especially mages.
Then it should be available to melee, too. Or it shouldn't be available at all.
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Oct 15 2012, 19:40
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varst
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 16 2012, 01:31)  Then it should be available to melee, too.
Or it shouldn't be available at all.
Well, I want that melee attack bonus so I can shout 'you shall not pass!!!' while I kill the monsters (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Oct 15 2012, 19:51
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buktore
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We did get the speed thing though. And we do have battlecaster & illithid weapon for that...
If I were to reset my weapon, it would be because of the elem strike.
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Oct 15 2012, 20:51
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 15 2012, 17:31)  Then it should be available to melee, too.
Or it shouldn't be available at all.
if you are that hard up for mana as melee then you must be doing something wrong. QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 15 2012, 17:51)  We did get the speed thing though. And we do have battlecaster & illithid weapon for that...
If I were to reset my weapon, it would be because of the elem strike.
I don't know why someone would want to give up the damage from slaughter to use battlecaster/illithid weapons. If I had gotten 5 levels of junk on my Estoc I would have reset it. The same goes for a lot of my armor, if I don't get a few levels of Juggernaut & Capacitor I'll reset it. If you have something with only has a few upgrades then it wouldn't make much of a difference. If you have something that is worth millions of credits and you forge the shit out of with 100-150 or more upgrades chances are you'll take the time to IW it until you get what you want on it.
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