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post Jul 26 2012, 18:00
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Well... If somemelee was to use a full out negation set... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Jul 26 2012, 18:07
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QUOTE(mustardpie @ Jul 27 2012, 00:00) *

Well... If somemelee was to use a full out negation set... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


Nothing is stopping the mage from also using Light-Negation gear just for the 1st round Silence/Sleep showdown.

edit: How high does Block go anyway? Maybe a full set of Shield Armor + 1HS is the strongest for PvP lolz.

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post Jul 26 2012, 18:47
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Jul 26 2012, 16:07) *

Nothing is stopping the mage from also using Light-Negation gear just for the 1st round Silence/Sleep showdown.

edit: How high does Block go anyway? Maybe a full set of Shield Armor + 1HS is the strongest for PvP lolz.


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post Jul 26 2012, 18:51
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Jul 26 2012, 17:50) *

First to Silence/Sleep the other wins.


You Win!

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post Jul 26 2012, 18:58
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Jul 27 2012, 00:47) *

upgraded turtle gear
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That would still lose to Silence/Sleep due to low Resist.

Edit: And how could I forget MagNet. That would probably tear apart all Light-Negation gear anyway.

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post Jul 26 2012, 19:37
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PvP in HV is not going to happen. In a hypothetical battle, a 100% accuracy staff is all you need and it's pretty much gg.
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post Jul 26 2012, 19:49
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QUOTE(Sushilicious @ Jul 26 2012, 19:37) *

PvP in HV is not going to happen. In a hypothetical battle, a 100% accuracy staff is all you need and it's pretty much gg.


You know that doesn't work on resist and evade, right?
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post Jul 26 2012, 20:00
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Jul 26 2012, 12:49) *

You know that doesn't work on resist and evade, right?

It works on everything except the monster upgrades.
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post Jul 26 2012, 20:07
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QUOTE(Sushilicious @ Jul 26 2012, 20:00) *

It works on everything except the monster upgrades.


I wonder why would it not work on monsters evade/resist and work on players evade/resist but i never attacked another player to test it.

Edit : i just thought about E1la she must have 100% accuracy and i can still evade her attacks.

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post Jul 26 2012, 20:11
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Jul 26 2012, 13:07) *

I wonder why would it not work on monsters evade/resist and work on players evade/resist but i never attacked another player to test it.

Never said it doesn't work on monster evade/resist, only their upgrades.
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post Jul 26 2012, 20:12
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Good luck convincing Tenboro to implement a PHP-based PvP
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post Jul 26 2012, 20:13
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Jul 26 2012, 13:07) *

Edit : i just thought about E1la she must have 100% accuracy and i can still evade her attacks.

Nah, no monster can ever achieve 100% accuracy of any form. Unless they can wear equipment at some point in the future.
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post Jul 26 2012, 20:16
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QUOTE(Sushilicious @ Jul 26 2012, 20:13) *

Nah, no monster can ever achieve 100% accuracy of any form. Unless they can wear equipment at some point in the future.


They have 20 upgrades of +5% accuracy, that would make 100% or i am very bad at maths.
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post Jul 26 2012, 20:19
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Jul 26 2012, 13:16) *

They have 20 upgrades of +5% accuracy, that would make 100% or i am very bad at maths.

A simple error and a pretty common one. It's not linear in the sense that you don't just add them up. If she has 99% accuracy and she had full upgrades her accuracy is now effectively 99.5%. In other words, a 100% increase over her prior accuracy.
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post Jul 26 2012, 20:24
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But then I think there's a chance it works like our equips?
Something like 1 - (1 - accuracy from stats) (1 - accuracy from chaos upgrade).
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post Jul 26 2012, 20:28
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if it does, that means she will hit us 100%. only way to verify would probably to sit in front of her for 1000 turns with a nice set of shade/phase.
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post Jul 26 2012, 20:34
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QUOTE(Sushilicious @ Jul 26 2012, 20:19) *

A simple error and a pretty common one. It's not linear in the sense that you don't just add them up. If she has 99% accuracy and she had full upgrades her accuracy is now effectively 99.5%. In other words, a 100% increase over her prior accuracy.


Uh, no. +100% would make it 100% no matter what the base.
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post Jul 26 2012, 20:34
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QUOTE(Sushilicious @ Jul 26 2012, 20:19) *

A simple error and a pretty common one. It's not linear in the sense that you don't just add them up. If she has 99% accuracy and she had full upgrades her accuracy is now effectively 99.5%. In other words, a 100% increase over her prior accuracy.


Your calculations are strange so you think accuracy affects evade/resist only if it's more than 100%? Because you said pvp 100% accuracy = no resist/evade, pvm 99,5% accuracy there is no changes in evade/resist.

Edit : ninja'd by the boss.

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post Jul 26 2012, 20:37
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 26 2012, 13:34) *

Uh, no. +100% would make it 100% no matter what the base.

What happened to diminishing returns? Or does that apply only to players and not monsters?
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post Jul 26 2012, 20:39
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QUOTE(Sushilicious @ Jul 26 2012, 20:37) *

What happened to diminishing returns? Or does that apply only to players and not monsters?


If you found a +100% item, the same would apply for players.
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