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post Jul 22 2012, 04:55
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Jul 21 2012, 21:44) *

Once your staff says 100%, you won't miss. You will just be evaded, and resisted, and probably troll parried to make you go WTF

Nah, if you have 100% accuracy, you won't get evaded, resisted or parried. Two patches ago. Then the first part of monster upgrades came and suddenly 100% doesn't actually mean 100% anymore.

Funny thing, I bought a legendary focus staff a few days ago to test this very thing, and right before I finished leveling it I found this staff. Good thing I decided not to use my mats on it before it was leveled. Now I'm left with a useless test pieces that I don't know what to do with.
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post Jul 22 2012, 05:00
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QUOTE(Sushilicious @ Jul 22 2012, 09:55) *

Nah, if you have 100% accuracy, you won't get evaded, resisted or parried. Two patches ago.



Here's the interesting bit that I kept asking here and there for a while now: Did monsters (except the dragons in D&D) could actually E/P/R our attack/spell 2 patches ago, or did we all just being delusional about it? ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


PS. It would be funny if anyone attempt to answering this by citing Tenb words... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ... AFAIK all of his info regarding this were extremely vague and almost impossible to interpret precisely.

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post Jul 22 2012, 05:07
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jul 21 2012, 17:52) *

You sure about that? Considering the time it took you find this staff... On the bright side, at least you can easily hit 100% accuracy now ^^


It was supposed to end here and that latter statement after "at least" was supposed to be the joke. Not a LOLOLOLOL joke but was meant to make readers smile - not go "wut?" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

QUOTE(Sushilicious @ Jul 21 2012, 20:55) *

Nah, if you have 100% accuracy, you won't get evaded, resisted or parried. Two patches ago. Then the first part of monster upgrades came and suddenly 100% doesn't actually mean 100% anymore.

Funny thing, I bought a legendary focus staff a few days ago to test this very thing, and right before I finished leveling it I found this staff. Good thing I decided not to use my mats on it before it was leveled. Now I'm left with a useless test pieces that I don't know what to do with.


Well... accuracy doesn't really matter at all now... lol... Just resell the staff.

And I think theorycrafting is alright. As long as you're doing it right.

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post Jul 22 2012, 05:13
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Yay, I think I hit the jackpot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Legendary Ethereal Katalox Staff of Heaven-sent

Shame about the prefix though, would've been perfect as a hallowed staff, or even a demonic staff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif). As is, it gives me a measly 5% evade.
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post Jul 22 2012, 06:00
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if that pic is real then Tenboro lied to us about accuracy
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post Jul 22 2012, 06:07
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He didn't lie. That was before the forge was implemented.

Also, I'm not the first person to have 100% accuracy, I just got it today. The reason why I know you couldn't miss with 100% accuracy prior to 0.6.8 was because a reliable source told me.

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Anyone wanna sell me 2 H-G Wood? Need it to test something and just ran out of wood.

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post Jul 22 2012, 07:21
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Tenb didn't lie, but I don't think the automatic (forced) leveling thing isn't in his mind when he said that. How much time do a player need to reach lv.400+ without that daily 10% EXP bonus?
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post Jul 22 2012, 09:21
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QUOTE(Sushilicious @ Jul 22 2012, 06:07) *


Edit:
Anyone wanna sell me 2 H-G Wood? Need it to test something and just ran out of wood.

Sent you 2. You can buy or just give them back whenever your monsters brought you some.
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post Jul 22 2012, 09:39
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jul 22 2012, 02:21) *

Sent you 2. You can buy or just give them back whenever your monsters brought you some.

I couldn't wait and already paid a ridiculous price for them earlier. But sure I'll take yours as well.
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post Jul 22 2012, 12:19
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QUOTE(Sushilicious @ Jul 22 2012, 09:39) *

I couldn't wait and already paid a ridiculous price for them earlier. But sure I'll take yours as well.

You should not pay ore then 50k each for them.
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post Jul 22 2012, 17:05
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now that we have confirmed 100% accuracy watch tenboro "fix" it in the next patch
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post Jul 22 2012, 17:31
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Nothing to fix
QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Jul 21 2012, 21:39) *

Rounding error

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post Jul 22 2012, 17:37
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CODE
Magic Accuracy = 1 - (1 - base) * (1 - equip_bonus) * (1 - aura_bonus)
* (1 - prof_bonus) * (1 - WIS * 0.1%) * (1 - INT * 0.04%)


If you have a staff have more than 100% accuracy, you will never miss or this formula is wrong. By the way there is no need to nerf it because of resist/parry/evade and i am sure the countermeasures will never get you to bypass them at 100%
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post Jul 22 2012, 18:10
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So it's not a rounding error, just an error, yet it shouldn't be fixed. I'm sure that will go over well with Tenboro. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Anyway, this looks like a 10 second fix, so I'm sure it will be gone pretty soon.
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post Jul 22 2012, 18:17
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Not like it'd do anything now considering the practical accuracy of players is well around 70%.

Could be a perfect time to employ linear diminishing returns though! Yep yep.
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post Jul 22 2012, 20:30
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13 4 You have been defeated.
13 3 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st crits you for 3330 piercing damage.
13 2 Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st hits you for 2864 piercing damage.
13 1 You hit Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st for 9596 void damage.

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post Jul 22 2012, 20:31
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Since it's pretty apparent people don't like to read, guess I'll reiterate a few points.

1) There is no rounding error, it is what it says, 100% accuracy. Now whether that means 100% chance to land hits is a different story.

2) Fix? Why fix it in a future patch when it was already "fixed" in 0.6.8?


Interestingly, after some testing, there's no noticeable difference between 95%, 99%, or even 100% accuracy. The usuals still resist/evade like a slut. Since accuracy means jack shit, the only thing focus is good for is its mana conservation. Then again I do get 100-200 rounds further in using it than with my destruction staff so I'm kinda conflicted as to what to feel here. :3
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post Jul 22 2012, 20:43
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QUOTE(mr daniels @ Jul 22 2012, 17:05) *

now that we have confirmed 100% accuracy watch tenboro "fix" it in the next patch


tee hee

Though to be fair, that particular piece of code was written on Friday.
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post Jul 22 2012, 20:46
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QUOTE(Sushilicious @ Jul 23 2012, 02:31) *

Interestingly, after some testing, there's no noticeable difference between 95%, 99%, or even 100% accuracy. The usuals still resist/evade like a slut. Since accuracy means jack shit, the only thing focus is good for is its mana conservation. Then again I do get 100-200 rounds further in using it than with my destruction staff so I'm kinda conflicted as to what to feel here. :3


You should explain to this guy about your findings. That would be very interesting.
(Go thorough his arguments about how good magical accuracy is) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And at your level, focus staff may work better; you deal so much damage that it longer matters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jul 22 2012, 20:47
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Scanning Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen 501st...
HP: 461/31392 MP: 350/1176 SP: 338/513
Monster Class: Humanoid, Power Level 1319
Monster Trainer: TheTornPrince
Melee Attack: Piercing
Weak against: Nothing
Resistant to: Nothing
Impervious to: Nothing


Since when? Must've missed it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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