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post Jul 8 2012, 13:01
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QUOTE(ExTe @ Jul 8 2012, 18:56) *

sent!


time to take it for a spin... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 8 2012, 13:17
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 8 2012, 21:01) *

time to take it for a spin... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Dont leave any scratches on it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You shld probably get a melee set like ChoseUno suggested. Its pretty awesome (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 8 2012, 13:49
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*desperately resisting the urge to convert from pure maging to pure melee...

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post Jul 8 2012, 16:11
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 8 2012, 13:49) *

*desperately resisting the urge to convert from pure maging to pure melee...

Let tell ya something: You finally made it to the last round. Then you see 501th, Lisi, Eliza, and other It-Got-Over-9000-HP girls waiting for you at the last round. You desperately drink Mana and Spirit Potions, re-buff Shadow Veil, X-Nerf, Spark, or whatever you do to survive and cast Ragnorok/Banish/Storm of Njord, but these girl simply laugh at your wimpy ED-worthy damage and simply double-tap you with critical, non-magical attacks. Then you died.

This is when you just realized that you have now wasted hours just for this, because you resisted the urge to convert into melee.



On side note, I just breezed through Hard T&T arena, took only 20 minutes (because I have to be careful in the 99th round not getting killed by 501th and Lisi), down from 50min spent in Normal T&T. Not sure whether it is because of the bleed damage or that Longsword of Slaughter much higher level than my lvl167 Estoc.

Thanks, aiwotorimodose , ExTe, and mustardpie, thank you for the item loan!



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post Jul 8 2012, 16:16
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QUOTE(Coma @ Jul 8 2012, 21:11) *

Let tell ya something: You finally made it to the last round. Then you see 501th, Lisi, Eliza, and other It-Got-Over-9000-HP girls waiting for you at the last round. You desperately drink Mana and Spirit Potions, re-buff Shadow Veil, X-Nerf, Spark, or whatever you do to survive and cast Ragnorok/Banish/Storm of Njord, but these girl simply laugh at your wimpy ED-worthy damage and simply double-tap you with critical, non-magical attacks. Then you died.

This is when you just realized that you have now wasted hours just for this, because you resisted the urge to convert into melee.
On side note, I just breezed through Hard T&T arena, took only 20 minutes (because I have to be careful in the 99th round not getting killed by 501th and Lisi), down from 50min spent in Normal T&T. Not sure whether it is because of the bleed damage or that Longsword of Slaughter much higher level than my lvl167 Estoc.

Thanks, aiwotorimodose , ExTe, and mustardpie, thank you for the item loan!


I think it's the level difference, that's all.

With equal damage, I think estoc would win out on killing speed. You should try to get a good estoc and see the difference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 8 2012, 16:18
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 8 2012, 19:49) *

*desperately resisting the urge to convert from pure maging to pure melee...


If you find the correct difficulty, then maging is extremely efficient.
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post Jul 8 2012, 16:22
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Jul 8 2012, 09:59) *

I demand the Dragon Hide back. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You mean this piece of never-looked-back junk?

QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Jul 8 2012, 16:16) *

I think it's the level difference, that's all.

With equal damage, I think estoc would win out on killing speed. You should try to get a good estoc and see the difference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The key word is good estoc. It is in popular demand, like Scythe in pre-Bleed-nerf day and Mace before the stun nerf, those sell quite high. For now, I am going to use loaned weapon to cut me some Yggdrasil branches everyday

My best toy simply cant compete with what ExTe and mustardpie loaned to me.

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post Jul 8 2012, 16:32
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QUOTE(Coma @ Jul 8 2012, 18:22) *

You mean this piece of never-looked-back junk?

No I mean something like this:
Superior Dragon Hide Breastplate of the Spirit-ward
Superior Dragon Hide Helmet of the Frost-born
Superior Dragon Hide Gauntlets of Protection
Superior Dragon Hide Boots of the Shielding Aura

Or even this:
Exquisite Dragon Hide Gauntlets of the Thrice-blessed
Exquisite Dragon Hide Leggings of Warding
Exquisite Dragon Hide Boots of the Wind-waker

But with proper buffs and stat changes. I can show you crappy phase/shade/power too, but it doesn't mean all phase/shade/power is crappy.

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post Jul 8 2012, 16:33
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Does Dragon Hide Equipment still drop?
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post Jul 8 2012, 16:38
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QUOTE(Insania @ Jul 8 2012, 22:33) *

Does Dragon Hide Equipment still drop?


no...
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post Jul 8 2012, 16:45
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QUOTE(Coma @ Jul 8 2012, 17:22) *

You mean this piece of never-looked-back junk?
The key word is good estoc. It is in popular demand, like Scythe in pre-Bleed-nerf day and Mace before the stun nerf, those sell quite high. For now, I am going to use loaned weapon to cut me some Yggdrasil branches everyday

My best toy simply cant compete with what ExTe and mustardpie loaned to me.


You dont actually need an ethereal estoc.

Even a normal feathered estoc is awesome thanks to PA. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Jul 8 2012, 16:49
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QUOTE(varst @ Jul 8 2012, 17:18) *

If you find the correct difficulty, then maging is extremely efficient.

True. This was one of the reasons maging was so popular back in the day.
Simply cause you can hit every single mob with one spell.
Even now I can one shot rounds on hard/hell (assuming no over 9000 mobs).

But all of that changed when mobs can suddenly resist/evade your spells for 3-7 rounds in a row (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
Btw, I still call bs on this. Something is wrong with the system when a mob can evade 5 times in a row your 95% hit chance :S
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post Jul 8 2012, 17:08
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Monster /resist/evade is a little over the top right now but I'm sure Tenb will bring something to fix that at some point.
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post Jul 8 2012, 17:13
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jul 8 2012, 11:08) *

Monster /resist/evadeEila 501, Lisi, Elizabeth, Sakurai Kei, and Noihara Himari are a little over the top right now but I'm sure Tenb will bring something to fix that at some point in the distant future, right?

FTFY

Well at the the HP buff has been removed.

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post Jul 8 2012, 17:23
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TOKENS Y U NO DROP ANYMORE (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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post Jul 8 2012, 17:33
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QUOTE(Tiap @ Jul 8 2012, 17:23) *

TOKENS Y U NO DROP ANYMORE (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

They do but not enough if you have more then one Monster (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jul 8 2012, 18:01
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jul 8 2012, 18:08) *

Monster /resist/evade is a little over the top right now but I'm sure Tenb will bring something to fix that at some point.

I hope so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
I don't mind the HP or the dmg on high PL mobs, but the fact that they can resist 3-7 times in a row is fucking retarded :S
If tenb fixes that, I just might be able to return to doing IWBTH arenas, not normal arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jul 8 2012, 18:13
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You might as well play Hard just so you have a chance at better shard drops. The differences are otherwise negligible.
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post Jul 8 2012, 18:15
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QUOTE(Cronauron @ Jul 8 2012, 12:13) *

You might as well play Hard just so you have a chance at better shard drops. The differences are otherwise negligible.

Yeah hard is a good floor for difficulty. For people without Crystarium, it means 2 crystal drops instead of 1, and you can get voidseeker and aether shards. Its also very easy and fast.
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post Jul 8 2012, 18:18
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So... Just out of curiosity did a few calculations.
If I use a godly HP pot, I get:
14,064 HP in 11 turns
If I use a godly mana pot, I get:
580mana in 5 turns. That let's me cast cure II 5 times
That equals to:
29,545 HP in 6 turns

Does anyone use HP pots? Ever? :S

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