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Jan 6 2011, 02:10
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 5 2011, 17:49)  There's one tree at 250 after 200, and that took about a year to get. History shows there's likely to be another soul crushing nerf accompanying any boost to trophies, so I'm less than optimistic.
Chrome. And I already do that with flame spikes, so it's not the reason.
Call me a skeptic, but this isn't the first time this has happened. This same exact scenario has happened with at least 2 others, ponkan and gillian. I'm sure there were others I forgot about too. Good luck trying to convince 10B tho.
Not trying to convince anybody on what he did do or not do, that was just the impression I have of him based on our conversations. I haven't been here long, relatively, so the history of similar events is not known to me, of course I also haven't known miwabe for that long as well, so he really could have used cheating devices, I'm not ruling out that possibility, which is assuming the anti-cheating mechanism did not catch a fluke. It's a shame if he really did cheat, but he doesn't need to cheat to get to where he is currently at. Based on my calculations, he got an average of 200 mil exp a day when he was level 270 ish and that is very possible from just 10 IW's and daily arenas, assuming he does it all in BT. I can't imagine how advanced a cheating device has to be in order for it to automate Battletoads runs in IW and arenas. Since you can't one hit on battletoads, it seems that human intervention is required but I guess an advanced script could do similar things.
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Jan 6 2011, 02:18
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miwabe02
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 6 2011, 02:09)  Holding alt + num has the same exact effect as clicking a quickcast and holding R, only I don't have to strain my thumb by holding it in an awkward position.
Maybe it's just being left handed, but I see nothing awkward about that position. Also, how long would you hold R for? QUOTE(sushi0 @ Jan 6 2011, 02:10)  Not trying to convince anybody on what he did do or not do, that was just the impression I have of him based on our conversations. I haven't been here long, relatively, so the history of similar events is not known to me, of course I also haven't known miwabe for that long as well, so he really could have used cheating devices, I'm not ruling out that possibility, which is assuming the anti-cheating mechanism did not catch a fluke. It's a shame if he really did cheat, but he doesn't need to cheat to get to where he is currently at.
Based on my calculations, he got an average of 200 mil exp a day when he was level 270 ish and that is very possible from just 10 IW's and daily arenas, assuming he does it all in BT. I can't imagine how advanced a cheating device has to be in order for it to automate Battletoads runs in IW and arenas. Since you can't one hit on battletoads, it seems that human intervention is required but I guess an advanced script could do similar things.
Oh, I'm sure a script could be devised for it. Plus, I wouldn't say you can't one hit on battletoads, just that you can't do it every turn. Believe me, I could have leveled up every day instead of every other day if I used a script for it (225+ million or so just for 10 IW's alone on battletoads).
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Jan 6 2011, 02:28
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Sushilicious
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 10,384
Joined: 21-October 10

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QUOTE(miwabe02 @ Jan 5 2011, 18:18)  Oh, I'm sure a script could be devised for it. Plus, I wouldn't say you can't one hit on battletoads, just that you can't do it every turn. Believe me, I could have leveled up every day instead of every other day if I used a script for it (225+ million or so just for 10 IW's alone on battletoads).
One hitting on battletoads once in a blue moon won't do any good considering the mobs that survive will tear you a new one, but yeah, not saying that it's impossible. I've only taken one programming course so far, so if a script contains even a bit of complexity, it's considered advance to me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Well, I'm sure you get more exp now, but that was a rough calculation I made and it was based off how much I estimated you to get daily back when you were in your 270's. Currently, I only manage 35 million daily at max and people say I'm leveling fast, so meh.
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Jan 6 2011, 02:38
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Death Grunty
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Jan 5 2011, 18:28)  Currently, I only manage 35 million daily at max and people say I'm leveling fast, so meh.
Say. Did you really join 20-October-2010? That's.. incredible. And on that matter. QUOTE(sushi0 @ Jan 5 2011, 17:29)  On a related note, have you checked on the two people that I've sent you a PM about around a month ago? Their leveling rate was very suspicious at the time and they've toned down a lot lately so I was just wondering how your investigation was going.
Going by YOUR standards. How fast were the people in question leveling for you of all people to notice. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Jan 6 2011, 02:46
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Sushilicious
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Death Grunty @ Jan 5 2011, 18:38)  Say. Did you really join 20-October-2010? That's.. incredible. And on that matter. Going by YOUR standards. How fast were the people in question leveling for you of all people to notice. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I did join on October 20, but only actually started playing HV in early November. I initially joined for the double viewing limit of the galleries, but I chanced upon HV and the innate gamer within me couldn't resist and naturally I became hooked to HV. It was a while ago, and I reported those people back when I was around level 100 ish, which was a bit under a month ago. Back then, I didn't have a clear grasp of how the EXP formula worked exactly and those people seemed to me to be leveling extremely fast. Let's just say this, one of the people I reported is a lurker, has over a 1000 posts in spamhaus and got to a level higher than I'm currently at in around 2 months or so, give or take. Now, when I made the report, I was only level 100 and seeing someone at such a high level in such a short period of time would naturally cause suspicion so I PMed TB about it and he said he was busy and would look at it later or something, but that was a month ago.
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Jan 6 2011, 02:53
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grumpymal
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QUOTE Tip of the Day: Are you tired of the same old browser games? Now you can spend endless hours grinding imaginary monsters in the HentaiVerse. You can also earn enough Credits to afford a few direct downloads.
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Jan 6 2011, 02:56
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Sushilicious
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE QUOTE Tip of the Day: Are you tired of the same old browser games? Now you can spend endless hours grinding imaginary monsters in the HentaiVerse. You can also earn enough Credits to afford a few direct downloads.
You caught me, that was what sold me to HV. I feel so ashamed. Edit: QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jan 5 2011, 17:13)  @Sushi: SAVE MEEEEE! It's taken like two hours to do my last two arenas on Nightmare D:
Didn't see this earlier, so I'll reply by editing this post instead of double posting. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) That's exactly the reason why I don't do arenas above my comfort zone. It usually takes me around 30 minutes to do all my arenas, a bit more if I'm spending time to sleep the final mob and use every bit of MP I have to spam spells for proficiencies. Also, what two arenas are you talking about? Two hours for two arenas on nightmare seem a bit much. Anyways, I'm raging now since I wasn't able to do four arenas due to me posting in this thread. I guess I should allocate myself with more than 30 minutes to do my daily arenas. This post has been edited by sushi0: Jan 6 2011, 03:13
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Jan 6 2011, 03:21
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hgbdd
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Jan 6 2011, 00:46)  I did join on October 20, but only actually started playing HV in early November. I initially joined for the double viewing limit of the galleries, but I chanced upon HV and the innate gamer within me couldn't resist and naturally I became hooked to HV.
It was a while ago, and I reported those people back when I was around level 100 ish, which was a bit under a month ago. Back then, I didn't have a clear grasp of how the EXP formula worked exactly and those people seemed to me to be leveling extremely fast. Let's just say this, one of the people I reported is a lurker, has over a 1000 posts in spamhaus and got to a level higher than I'm currently at in around 2 months or so, give or take. Now, when I made the report, I was only level 100 and seeing someone at such a high level in such a short period of time would naturally cause suspicion so I PMed TB about it and he said he was busy and would look at it later or something, but that was a month ago.
The big reason why you level up fast ( like most people now) is because of this last release, I mean it's because of the nerf in the mob's defense. Before with a focus staff( loosing mdm), I couldn't 1-shot on normal if I didn't select blue slime, after the last release pff. This post has been edited by cmdct: Jan 6 2011, 03:22
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Jan 6 2011, 03:31
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masquepiph
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Jan 5 2011, 21:56)  Didn't see this earlier, so I'll reply by editing this post instead of double posting. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) That's exactly the reason why I don't do arenas above my comfort zone. It usually takes me around 30 minutes to do all my arenas, a bit more if I'm spending time to sleep the final mob and use every bit of MP I have to spam spells for proficiencies. Also, what two arenas are you talking about? Two hours for two arenas on nightmare seem a bit much. Anyways, I'm raging now since I wasn't able to do four arenas due to me posting in this thread. I guess I should allocate myself with more than 30 minutes to do my daily arenas. Eve of Death and The Trio. I used up 4 or 5 elixirs and 2 godly mana pots to beat Trio. Probably sparked like 6 times. 85 15 You have reached Level 206! 85 14 You gain 1476 Credits! 85 13 You gain 236656.11 EXP! 85 12 Your HP and MP have been fully restored! 85 11 Arena Token Bonus! [Chaos Token] 85 10 Arena Clear Bonus! [Godly Health Potion] 85 9 Skuld dropped [Scroll of the Avatar] 85 8 Yggdrasil dropped [Sapling] 85 7 Urd dropped [Godly Health Potion] 85 6 You are Victorious! Not a single equipment drop for the last 4 arenas and I did them all on nightmare hoping for a good bonus :< 190 rounds on nightmare, it took a fucking long time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Jan 6 2011, 03:31
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Jan 6 2011, 03:43
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Vakuen
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Frankly, there really is no good reason for staying around leveling up forever. I'm taking my time now because after I reach level 100, there are no new monsters to beat.
To be perfectly honest, my logical side demands that I do more interesting activities than doing endless monster runs. Its one of the reasons I no longer play any games with lots of dungeons. I need interesting things. Grinding away at monsters is boring and I'm not sure I wouldn't try to cheat if I had the knowledge, wasn't too lazy, and had some pressing reason for leveling up. So, I'm likely one of those people who'll suddenly stop leveling once I get into the early 100's
Most of my interest is actually in bargaining for equipment, participating in auctions and all the other more mercantile and social aspects of the game. That's really the main draw for me even now at the low level I am at. I need more credits for downloads and to be a better participant in auctions and to get better equipment to sell.
It improves my understanding of the human condition ^ ^
-Vakuen
This post has been edited by Vakuen: Jan 6 2011, 03:44
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Jan 6 2011, 03:59
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Conquest101
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Interesting.
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Jan 6 2011, 04:00
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Razorflame
Group: Gold Star Club
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Tenseiga, I can definitely say that being in the top seven for the daily toplists on the galleries increases the experience you get.
I'm currently on the daily toplist for tagging (2), EHTracker (5), Rating and Reviewing (5), and H@H (7), and the amount of experience I'm getting is much higher than normal.
Normally, I only get 2,100 XP on the last round of Killzone. Today, when I completed the last round of Killzone, I got 3,350 XP (an increase of about 50%)....I'll let you know if this pattern holds up for Item World experience as well (when I do my Exquisite runs tomorrow).
Hopefully, that is the reason for my higher XP today.
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Jan 6 2011, 04:09
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Honeycat
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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My dawn EXP and random battle EXP was crap again today. And WTF? All my Tokens of Blood are gone! Last I checked I had over 300 of them. Did I really use them all up? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Jan 6 2011, 04:11
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Razorflame
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Tenseigamoon @ Jan 5 2011, 20:09)  My dawn EXP and random battle EXP was crap again today. And WTF? All my Tokens of Blood are gone! Last I checked I had over 300 of them. Did I really use them all up? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) The reason for this is because you didn't place in the top 7 for the daily toplists on the galleries. Not sure why you are missing all your Tokens of Blood (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) My dawn experience was about 50 XP higher than normal. Ok, I've experimented in a Magnificent IW....before today, my average XP per 9 monster round was just over 1,000 XP....today, my average XP per 9 monster round ~1350 XP,,,about a 35% increase. I'll check Exquisite tomorrow. This post has been edited by Razorflame: Jan 6 2011, 05:10
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Jan 6 2011, 12:30
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(miwabe02 @ Jan 6 2011, 00:58)  You said you did it with R, not alt + 1. And while I do understand any skepticism anyone might have, this has absolutely nothing to do with leveling up quickly. It could be considered taking advantage of the system to raise proficiencies, but plenty of us took advantage of the legendary arena's to make credits before the trophy revamps.
Obviously, none of this can be resolved until Tenboro comes back online, but if anybody doesn't believe me, do what I described (holding alt and 1 in Chrome and looking away) and see what happens.
Alright, I'll believe you, but exploiting that is one step above using a macro, so consider this a warning. I've restored your account, but you'll have to request a password reset on the link from the login screen.
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Jan 6 2011, 12:52
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Zero Angel
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So... holding R is allowed, but Alt+number isn't?
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Jan 6 2011, 13:46
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Jan 6 2011, 11:52)  So... holding R is allowed, but Alt+number isn't?
It's not so much about holding buttons as it is about exploiting a particular bug in the current HV release.
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Jan 6 2011, 19:03
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hitokiri84
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I had a feeling that was the difference. I'm not exploiting a bug by holding R because I'm actually using mana.
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Jan 6 2011, 19:16
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miwabe
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 6 2011, 10:30)  Alright, I'll believe you, but exploiting that is one step above using a macro, so consider this a warning. I've restored your account, but you'll have to request a password reset on the link from the login screen.
Understood, I'm sorry about any trouble this has caused.
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Jan 6 2011, 19:28
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Sushilicious
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 21-October 10

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QUOTE(miwabe @ Jan 6 2011, 11:16)  Understood, I'm sorry about any trouble this has caused.
Glad my trust was not ill placed. Hope this series of events won't adversely affect your leveling rate because if you slow down due to this, I'll be disappointed. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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