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Jan 6 2011, 00:50
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Razorflame @ Jan 5 2011, 22:44)  Damn it...I sent miwabe 18000 credits a few hours ago....(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Wonder if I'll get them back (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Don't count with that, even if he would be willing to give them back, the first thing it happens, is to lose the credits.
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Jan 6 2011, 00:51
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Razorflame
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I thought that when Tenboro said he's done that he meant miwabe was banned from the site..
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Jan 6 2011, 00:52
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(cmal @ Jan 5 2011, 16:34)  I remember when we didn't have IWs with their gigantic XP bonuses. And smaller multipliers for the difficulties. Back in that day, we power-leveled with arenas and Grinding. And we didn't have a million high-leveled people to give us stuff and advice. You newbies have it easy.
Totally. I prefer the days of no massive IW EXP and grinding on Arenas. QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 5 2011, 16:37)  Funny how the timing on that worked out. He was placed on a watch list a couple of weeks ago, and he just triggered the anti-cheating mechanism ten minutes ago. Soo, he's done.
Another one bites the dust. QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 5 2011, 16:16)  No tree, no rewards, no new title, and no chance Tenboro will take the time to change any of that. Oh, and to clarify, it's not like I am blaming you for that or anything. Why spend the time to code all that for one person? Personally I think you should just place a hard cap at 300 and make a new awesome, and final, Title to go with it. QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 5 2011, 16:50)  Don't count with that, even if he would be willing to give them back, the first thing it happens, is to lose the credits.
If it's the same as the others, he already had all of his equipment and credits deleted, so he probably doesn't have them to give back anymore. This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Jan 6 2011, 00:54
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Jan 6 2011, 01:10
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Razorflame
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Is the account banned/suspended from the forums, galleries, et. al as well?
I don't see why Tenboro can't generate 18,000 credits...I mean, he does that whenever someone donates real money to the site...
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Jan 6 2011, 01:11
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miwabe02
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This is miwabe (obviously). I figured I might as well post here as well as send a PM.
The only thing that I did that could have caused this was to manually hold down the alt and 1 keys, casting frost spikes, while doing a flimsy cake world. This was only done for the purpose of raising proficiencies.
The speed leveling was done through a constant use of infusions and scrolls to quickly clear battletoads exquisite item worlds.
The only userscript I have ever used is HV STAT. I currently only play on Chrome.
Obviously, this dupe account can be deleted if the original account is restored. As far as I can tell, equipment and credits have not been deleted. I cannot login to my account for the forums.
This post has been edited by miwabe02: Jan 6 2011, 01:12
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Jan 6 2011, 01:13
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(Razorflame @ Jan 5 2011, 20:10)  Is the account banned/suspended from the forums, galleries, et. al as well?
I don't see why Tenboro can't generate 18,000 credits...I mean, he does that whenever someone donates real money to the site...
It's not exactly high on his to do list lol. I'm sure he'll consider it if reminded later. @Hito: Given the 'You should hold onto your super trophies' msg I think it's fair to say an update is on the way (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) @Sushi: SAVE MEEEEE! It's taken like two hours to do my last two arenas on Nightmare D: This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Jan 6 2011, 01:15
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Jan 6 2011, 01:21
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Razorflame
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QUOTE(miwabe02 @ Jan 5 2011, 17:11)  This is miwabe (obviously). I figured I might as well post here as well as send a PM.
The only thing that I did that could have caused this was to manually hold down the alt and 1 keys, casting frost spikes, while doing a flimsy cake world. This was only done for the purpose of raising proficiencies.
The speed leveling was done through a constant use of infusions and scrolls to quickly clear battletoads exquisite item worlds.
The only userscript I have ever used is HV STAT. I currently only play on Chrome.
Obviously, this dupe account can be deleted if the original account is restored. As far as I can tell, equipment and credits have not been deleted. I cannot login to my account for the forums.
Hmm...I, for one, tend to believe his story. He was one to buy lots of infusions, so I highly doubt that he would cheat in this game....and I don't think that his holding down the alt and 1 keys while casting frost spikes for the purpose of raising proficiencies was worth banning his account....it doesn't seem like he did anything wrong....
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Jan 6 2011, 01:23
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(Razorflame @ Jan 5 2011, 20:21)  Hmm...I, for one, tend to believe his story. He was one to buy lots of infusions, so I highly doubt that he would cheat in this game....and I don't think that his holding down the alt and 1 keys while casting frost spikes for the purpose of raising proficiencies was worth banning his account....it doesn't seem like he did anything wrong....
I'm not gonna judge miwabe, but you really should stop while you're ahead. Tenb will be able to detect what's happening as someone plays. 1. It's he says vs Tenb says. 2. Tenb is (almost) always right.
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Jan 6 2011, 01:23
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(miwabe02 @ Jan 5 2011, 17:11)  The only thing that I did that could have caused this was to manually hold down the alt and 1 keys, casting frost spikes, while doing a flimsy cake world. This was only done for the purpose of raising proficiencies. That won't get you banned, because I've done the same thing only with grindfest and holding R to repeat the initial cast. As for the actual reason, well you'll just have to hope Tenboro explains it to you.
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Jan 6 2011, 01:25
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Razorflame
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jan 5 2011, 17:23)  I'm not gonna judge miwabe, but you really should stop while you're ahead. Tenb will be able to detect what's happening as someone plays.
1. It's he says vs Tenb says. 2. Tenb is (almost) always right.
Yeah, I was just saying my opinion. I'm not saying that Tenboro is wrong, I was just putting my opinion on the matter out there. If Tenboro wants him to stay banned, then so be it. I just wanted to weigh in on the situation with my own opinion.
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Jan 6 2011, 01:27
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grumpymal
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I vaguely remember in the past it being said that Tenboro can actually tune into any active battle, so he could actually watch you play. I could have just imagined it, but the moral of the story is Tenboro doesn't shitcan people for cheating (not the lolCheater script) without good reason.
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Jan 6 2011, 01:28
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miwabe02
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Jan 6 2011, 01:23)  I'm not gonna judge miwabe, but you really should stop while you're ahead. Tenb will be able to detect what's happening as someone plays.
1. It's he says vs Tenb says. 2. Tenb is (almost) always right.
QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 6 2011, 01:23)  That won't get you banned, because I've done the same thing only with grindfest and holding R to repeat the initial cast.
As for the actual reason, well you'll just have to hope Tenboro explains it to you.
Firefox or Chrome? If Chrome, try setting frost spikes to the first slot, go into an item world with enough absorption that you won't take damage, hold alt, then hold 1, then start watching some television or something, because this is exactly what I did. Now, if you think this is ban-worthy cheating, then so be it. All I can tell you is today is the first time I tried that, and now I'm banned. This post has been edited by miwabe02: Jan 6 2011, 01:43
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Jan 6 2011, 01:29
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 5 2011, 16:16)  To be fair, I haven't been trying to level since 280. I do most arenas on normal just to get the credits, and I've finished all 10 daily item worlds only a couple times in the past several weeks, and only on Heroic when I've done it. I would have been past 300 a month ago if I spent the entire day playing BT IW, like miwabe, but there's just no point. There's nothing there except another copy and paste arena. No tree, no rewards, no new title, and no chance Tenboro will take the time to change any of that.
True, but TB is probably planning something big for the next patch based on the hints he has given us. Whether it's just related to unique trophies or trophies in general, something is going to change and let's hope that it's not another nerf yet again. There is a very high chance the next tree is either at 300 or before it. Since the last one is currently at 280, I suspect the next one is either 280 or 300 so you can expect new skills next patch, assuming TB is working on them of course. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 5 2011, 16:37)  Funny how the timing on that worked out. He was placed on a watch list a couple of weeks ago, and he just triggered the anti-cheating mechanism ten minutes ago. Soo, he's done.
That's quite unfortunate. He's actually very helpful and detailed when responding to questions and never hesitated to answer anything. He was quite knowledgeable of the game and his leveling speed seemed to be a result of that knowledge. Let's hope the anti-cheating mechanism caught a fluke but if it really is true, then HV just lost someone great today. I actually admired him for leveling so fast despite not having any of the EXP bonuses. On a related note, have you checked on the two people that I've sent you a PM about around a month ago? Their leveling rate was very suspicious at the time and they've toned down a lot lately so I was just wondering how your investigation was going. QUOTE(miwabe02 @ Jan 5 2011, 17:11)  This is miwabe (obviously). I figured I might as well post here as well as send a PM.
The only thing that I did that could have caused this was to manually hold down the alt and 1 keys, casting frost spikes, while doing a flimsy cake world. This was only done for the purpose of raising proficiencies.
The speed leveling was done through a constant use of infusions and scrolls to quickly clear battletoads exquisite item worlds.
The only userscript I have ever used is HV STAT. I currently only play on Chrome.
Obviously, this dupe account can be deleted if the original account is restored. As far as I can tell, equipment and credits have not been deleted. I cannot login to my account for the forums.
I actually believe your story. Based on the PMs and discussions we've had with each other, you seem to know what you're doing and your leveling rate reflects that. Of all the people I've talked to in PM's (not many), you were one of two that I actually enjoyed having intellectual discussions with regarding system calculations, the other one being Conquest. I was just about to ask you to borrow your freyr cap that you bought from thanos for testing purposes too, talk about a case of extremely bad timing. I really hope this is a fluke as well. but if nothing can be done, best wishes to whatever you do miwabe.
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Jan 6 2011, 01:38
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Honeycat
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I knew it. Buh-bye.
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Jan 6 2011, 01:44
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(cmal @ Jan 5 2011, 20:27)  I vaguely remember in the past it being said that Tenboro can actually tune into any active battle, so he could actually watch you play. I could have just imagined it, but the moral of the story is Tenboro doesn't shitcan people for cheating (not the lolCheater script) without good reason.
I'd bet all my credits that he can. It should be extremely easy, just watching the conversation between you and the hverse server.
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Jan 6 2011, 01:49
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Jan 5 2011, 17:29)  True, but TB is probably planning something big for the next patch based on the hints he has given us. Whether it's just related to unique trophies or trophies in general, something is going to change and let's hope that it's not another nerf yet again. There is a very high chance the next tree is either at 300 or before it. Since the last one is currently at 280, I suspect the next one is either 280 or 300 so you can expect new skills next patch, assuming TB is working on them of course. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) There's one tree at 250 after 200, and that took about a year to get. History shows there's likely to be another soul crushing nerf accompanying any boost to trophies, so I'm less than optimistic. QUOTE(miwabe02 @ Jan 5 2011, 17:28)  Firefox or Chrome? If Chrome, try setting frost spikes to the first slot, go into an item world with enough absorption that you won't take damage, hold alt, then hold 1, then start watching some television or something, because this is exactly what I did. Now, if you think this is ban-worthy cheating, then so be it.
Chrome. And I already do that with flame spikes, so it's not the reason. QUOTE(sushi0 @ Jan 5 2011, 17:29)  I actually believe your story. Based on the PMs and discussions we've had with each other, you seem to know what you're doing and your leveling rate reflects that. Of all the people I've talked to in PM's (not many), you were one of two that I actually enjoyed having intellectual discussions with regarding system calculations, the other one being Conquest. I was just about to ask you to borrow your freyr cap that you bought from thanos for testing purposes too, talk about a case of extremely bad timing. Call me a skeptic, but this isn't the first time this has happened. This same exact scenario has happened with at least 2 others, ponkan and gillian. I'm sure there were others I forgot about too. Good luck trying to convince 10B tho.
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Jan 6 2011, 01:58
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miwabe02
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 6 2011, 01:49)  There's one tree at 250 after 200, and that took about a year to get. History shows there's likely to be another soul crushing nerf accompanying any boost to trophies, so I'm less than optimistic.
Chrome. And I already do that with flame spikes, so it's not the reason.
Call me a skeptic, but this isn't the first time this has happened. This same exact scenario has happened with at least 2 others, ponkan and gillian. I'm sure there were others I forgot about too. Good luck trying to convince 10B tho.
You said you did it with R, not alt + 1. And while I do understand any skepticism anyone might have, this has absolutely nothing to do with leveling up quickly. It could be considered taking advantage of the system to raise proficiencies, but plenty of us took advantage of the legendary arena's to make credits before the trophy revamps. Obviously, none of this can be resolved until Tenboro comes back online, but if anybody doesn't believe me, do what I described (holding alt and 1 in Chrome and looking away) and see what happens.
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Jan 6 2011, 02:09
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hitokiri84
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Holding alt + num has the same exact effect as clicking a quickcast and holding R, only I don't have to strain my thumb by holding it in an awkward position.
This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Jan 6 2011, 02:09
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