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post Jun 26 2012, 14:18
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You're starting to sound like a broken mechanical doll. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 26 2012, 14:18
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Jun 26 2012, 14:18) *

You're starting to sound like a broken mechanical doll. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jun 26 2012, 14:21
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Keep it up, bro. Your posts are becoming even more useless than mine. A couple more, and I can report you for spamming. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 26 2012, 14:34
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Jun 26 2012, 14:21) *

Keep it up, bro. Your posts are becoming even more useless than mine. A couple more, and I can report you for spamming. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Jun 26 2012, 14:39
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Good, good. Make more. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 26 2012, 14:42
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Meanwhile in another part of H-Verse News....

Someone Just bought all the Damage Type Mitigation Bindings WTF.
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post Jun 26 2012, 15:23
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QUOTE(Tiap @ Jun 26 2012, 13:12) *

Lower absorbable damage from 25% to 18-20% and cap spirit consumption to 15-20% instead of 25% (or just use HealthPoints*2 in the calculation).
Alternatively, if that's not an option because melees would start abusing it, ban all melees give mages something that will help them on that end (possibly an added effect to AF, since it's the one thing melees never use).
Either way, spirit consumption needs to be lowered. Having monsters hit the cap for 25% of base spirit on Easy/Normal is just silly.


SShield triggers when you're hit for more than 25% of your health bar: you lose 25% of your health and roughly less than 1% of the excess damage is subtracted from your spirit bar. Spirit "burnt" this way is capped to 40% of your base spirit pool, lowered by 5% for each additional AP spent on the spell.

If you lower the damage threshold from 25% to 20% SShield would just trigger more often, thus burning spirit points faster. If you lower the cap on spirit consumption you'd certainly get what you looked for. The easiest solution then could be changing the spirit burning cap to 50% and lowering it by 10% for each additional AP, down to 10%.

Spirit consumption could be simply offset by a faster spirit regeneration. That aside, strangely enough, I'm absolutely against giving casters any boon on the side... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Anyway, SShield's fast spirit burning is just a symptom. The real problem is that players' defenses turn to jelly when facing chaosed up monsters. We need either a second tier for supportive spells such as SV and Protection (and a third one for this, too!), or a raise in gear/stats bonuses to both defense and offense. Ghost Eila by herself can completely upset a midlevel player's strategy forcing him to never use SStance because the OC's needed at any given time to Skill her into oblivion before she rips him to shreds.

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post Jun 26 2012, 15:43
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Jun 26 2012, 20:23) *

SShield triggers when you're hit for more than 25% of your health bar: you lose 25% of your health and roughly less than 1% of the excess damage is subtracted from your spirit bar. Spirit "burnt" this way is capped to 40% of your base spirit pool, lowered by 5% for each additional AP spent on the spell.

If you lower the damage threshold from 25% to 20% SShield would just trigger more often, thus burning spirit points faster. If you lower the cap on spirit consumption you'd certainly get what you looked for. The easiest solution then could be changing the spirit burning cap to 50% and lowering it by 10% for each additional AP, down to 10%.

Spirit consumption could be simply offset by a faster spirit regeneration. That aside, strangely enough, I'm absolutely against giving casters any boon on the side... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Anyway, SShield's fast spirit burning is just a simptom. The real problem is that players' defenses turn to jelly when facing chaosed up monsters. We need either a second tier for supportive spells such as SV and Protection (and a third one for this, too!), or a raise in gear/stats bonuses to both defense and offense. Ghost Eila by herself can completely upset a midlevel player's strategy forcing him to never use SStance because the OC's needed at any given time to Skill her into oblivion before she rips him to shreds.


I don't think faster spirit regeneration is the solution here. Protection II and Shadow Veil II sounds nice, but I don't know if it's really necessary.

The problem with maging is that there's no buffer zone for mages. Unlike in other games where you can kite mobs, mages in HV are forced to tank them. Therefore, it's either kill them in 1-2 turns or die. Having 30-40% evade doesn't really help that much anymore, since mobs now reduces your evasion (which I'm entirely against).

Maybe bring back the old Shield spell?
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post Jun 26 2012, 15:51
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Change evade scaling to how it was before when.. 60~70 evade oughta make a difference.
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post Jun 26 2012, 17:02
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post Jun 26 2012, 17:56
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https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=72737

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post Jun 26 2012, 17:57
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QUOTE(varst @ Jun 26 2012, 19:56) *

What was there? He's deleted his message. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jun 26 2012, 17:58
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Jun 26 2012, 23:57) *

What was there? He's deleted his message. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


[facepalm]A bot user who want to say goodbye. In the site discussion foum. [/facepalm]

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post Jun 26 2012, 18:01
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QUOTE(varst @ Jun 26 2012, 19:58) *
[facepalm]A bot user who want to say goodbye. In the site discussion foum. [/facepalm]

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post Jun 26 2012, 18:06
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Someone we knew?
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post Jun 26 2012, 18:07
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 27 2012, 00:06) *

Someone we knew?


Who has been caught botting in the last 24 hours?
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post Jun 26 2012, 18:25
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the hath auction botting?
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post Jun 26 2012, 18:31
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QUOTE(varst @ Jun 26 2012, 18:07) *

Who has been caught botting in the last 24 hours?


He took away something that should have rightfully been mine. Can I have it back? Along with all the rest of his stuff as partial compensation for emotional distress?
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post Jun 26 2012, 18:32
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Jun 27 2012, 00:31) *

He took away something that should have rightfully been mine. Can I have it back? Along with all the rest of his stuff as partial compensation for emotional distress?


If you let him level up your equips/bought something from his auction, then you may have to ask Tenb if there's any arrangement (with proofs). No guarantee it will be successful, of course.

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post Jun 26 2012, 18:36
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Good riddance. Hopefully he was the bazaar perpetrator too.

QUOTE(Ichy @ Jun 26 2012, 06:48) *
No need to read them.

Everyone here should have blocked this guy ages ago. C'mon.
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