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post Jun 20 2012, 11:35
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 20 2012, 09:34) *

If Superman exist in real life, that would be a very reasonable explanation.


what makes you think he doesn't?
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post Jun 20 2012, 11:38
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Gravity still working.
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post Jun 20 2012, 11:39
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Superman just as Hentai as us. or perhaps Superhentai man? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jun 20 2012, 14:44
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 20 2012, 16:38) *

Gravity still working.


I live in Vietnam, and my ping to the server is 350-400 on a good day. And yet, on that good day I can cruise through 3-4 rounds a second, holding a button.

Someone who is determined to camp the bazaar, with 20-50 ping to the server can easily get many more than that. And maybe the camper has an advanced script that spot valuable bindings and click it for him/her, so they only need to click buy + enter? It's pretty easy to do that 5 times a second.

That, or the person knows roughly how often bindings respawn, and only camp during those times.
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post Jun 20 2012, 14:56
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYPapE-3FRw...tailpage#t=548s
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post Jun 20 2012, 15:03
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Jun 20 2012, 12:44) *

That, or the person knows roughly how often bindings respawn, and only camp during those times.


Buindings dont respawn. They are only there when players are stupid enough to sell them
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post Jun 20 2012, 15:06
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Jun 20 2012, 20:03) *

Buindings dont respawn. They are only there when players are stupid enough to sell them


This is false. ... How do I know this? I don't. It just a guess, a very confident guess.

Though I'm not sure if the latest patch changed it or not. My guess is that they don't.

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post Jun 20 2012, 18:30
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post Jun 20 2012, 18:34
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QUOTE(Tiap @ Jun 20 2012, 23:30) *

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Same thing with maging, no?
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post Jun 20 2012, 18:34
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QUOTE(Tiap @ Jun 20 2012, 20:30) *
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FUKKEN SAVED!

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post Jun 20 2012, 18:41
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If meleeing is 'using different equip combinations for different achievements, maging is 'exploiting the same equip set to the greatest effect'. 100% less troublesome (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)
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post Jun 20 2012, 19:06
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QUOTE(buktore @ Jun 20 2012, 08:06) *

This is false. ... How do I know this? I don't. It just a guess, a very confident guess.

Though I'm not sure if the latest patch changed it or not. My guess is that they don't.

Nope, and that's not a guess. Only crystals are generated by the Bazaar now. Any other equipment or items you see were sold by a player.

But I don't disagree that there are shop bots. I've seen them in action, buying things in 0.1 seconds.

In fact, I even received this very peculiar message through Moogle the last time I complained about someone botting Vigor crystals, which happened for about an 8 hour duration:

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btw, yesterday I lost about 2k vigors from buying crystals too fast. that was when I clicked mad to get some vigors and bought everything that appeared. exactly where I bought some devotions.
today you can sell vigors off to the bazaar and can buy them back within ~3 seconds. still a screw up for me because I use to check only like every few minutes when watching tv or doing anything else but playing.


I won't name names yet, but how exactly do you lose 2k crystals you are trying to acquire and buy the wrong type by clicking too fast? And of course you could buy them in 3 seconds after the bot is gone, because that's a normal human reaction speed. Not the 0.1 seconds I see frequently, complain about, and get blown off by Tenboro when it disappears, which just invites them to come back later and repeat the whole cycle.
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post Jun 20 2012, 19:08
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maging also use different equip combinations for different achievements. holy EDB set for FSM and dark EDB set for IPU and that's about it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jun 20 2012, 19:47
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Has anyone seen this botter??
(IMG:[upload.wikimedia.org] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Yeti_by_Philippe_Semeria.jpg)

Any details you could share would be appreciated!
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post Jun 20 2012, 20:02
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0.6.9: Spike has been added to the Bazaar and is now accepting donations.
You can now receive an unlimited amount of crystals by offering him an equivalent amount of credits.
Offering too much money at once may turn him into an adult dragon capable of stealing your equipment and crystals.
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post Jun 20 2012, 20:08
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Jokes aside, I'm inclined to believe Tenboro. Since he checked the history whenever somebody brought up this thing.
However a random captcha wouldn't hurt either.. Let's say it's activated when buying and if it does and you solve it you get a 50% discount on whatever you're buying. How does that sound?
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post Jun 20 2012, 20:10
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QUOTE(Death Grunty @ Jun 20 2012, 14:08) *

Jokes aside, I'm inclined to believe Tenboro. Since he checked the history whenever somebody brought up this thing.
However a random captcha wouldn't hurt either.. Let's say it's activated when buying and if it does and you solve it you get a 50% discount on whatever you're buying. How does that sound?

Considering how fast the "useful" crystals sell anyway, I'd say rage inducing.
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post Jun 20 2012, 20:16
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QUOTE(Death Grunty @ Jun 21 2012, 02:08) *

Jokes aside, I'm inclined to believe Tenboro. Since he checked the history whenever somebody brought up this thing.
However a random captcha wouldn't hurt either.. Let's say it's activated when buying and if it does and you solve it you get a 50% discount on whatever you're buying. How does that sound?


You remember that HV is a credit sinker, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Jun 20 2012, 20:21
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QUOTE(varst @ Jun 20 2012, 12:16) *

You remember that HV is a credit sinker, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Yes. And I said it should be triggered randomly. A small chance that it's triggered after you clicked the Buy button.
In fact 50% off is still above the selling price.. so it's still a credit sink.

But would it make that much of difference? Right now there's this mysterious bot that snatches them. So would it hurt you if you randomly (on rare occasions) lost just cuz you triggered the captcha? In return it would kill any bots so.. it seems like a good trade-off to me.
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post Jun 20 2012, 21:01
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[www.humanbenchmark.com] Ignorance is a sin.

According to that simple test the overall average response time is 215 ms...

My response time is about 230 ms. My connection's latency is about 70 ms.

Anyone, absolutely anyone, even slugs can get something from the bazaar in less than a second.

I wouldn't be surprised if people snatched stuff away in less than half a second without a bot, just camping it for hours and repeating the same movements over and over.

It's a sad way to play this game, but they get the swag (more often than not, at least).

With latency in the 250 ms range it can't be helped if people with faster conections grab the stuff right under your nose. The crucial point is that an item might be avaiable before you even requested a refresh: someone else may have spotted it before you even saw it on your screen. It's a matter of hundreds or even just tens of milliseconds, but that's all it takes to beat you to the punch.
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