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post Jun 10 2012, 21:44
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QUOTE(mustardpie @ Jun 10 2012, 19:44) *

Just died on normal.... This is gonna be hell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


I have been playing on normal and some monsters are still triggering spirit shield with their regular attacks, not even crits.

Also, Is spirit shield supposed to absorb different amounts of spirit if I am hit for the exact same amount of damage?

examples:
2 7 Liselotte Werckmeister hits you for 1877 slashing damage.
2 6 Your spirit shield absorbs 383 points of damage from the attack into 5.8 points of spirit damage.

1 9 Liselotte Werckmeister hits you for 1877 slashing damage.
1 8 Your spirit shield absorbs 342 points of damage from the attack into 5.18 points of spirit damage.

1 13 Elizabeth hits you for 1877 piercing damage.
1 12 Your spirit shield absorbs 121 points of damage from the attack into 1.84 points of spirit damage.

1 15 Noihara Himari crits you for 1877 piercing damage.
1 14 You gain the effect Cloak of the Fallen.
1 13 Your Spark of Life restores you from the brink of defeat.
1 12 Your spirit shield absorbs 575 points of damage from the attack into 8.73 points of spirit damage.

1 12 Noihara Himari crits you for 1877 piercing damage.
1 11 Your spirit shield absorbs 320 points of damage from the attack into 4.86 points of spirit damage.

1 15 Elizabeth crits you for 1877 piercing damage.
1 14 Your spirit shield absorbs 1170 points of damage from the attack into 17.74 points of spirit damage.

All the exact same amount of damage, first 3 are regular attacks and the last 3 are crits. Each one absorbed a different amount of damage and used a different amount of spirit. Something about this just seemed odd.
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post Jun 10 2012, 21:49
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QUOTE(Lord_Obagon @ Jun 10 2012, 21:44) *

I have been playing on normal and some monsters are still triggering spirit shield with their regular attacks, not even crits.

Also, Is spirit shield supposed to absorb different amounts of spirit if I am hit for the exact same amount of damage?

examples:
2 7 Liselotte Werckmeister hits you for 1877 slashing damage.
2 6 Your spirit shield absorbs 383 points of damage from the attack into 5.8 points of spirit damage.

1 9 Liselotte Werckmeister hits you for 1877 slashing damage.
1 8 Your spirit shield absorbs 342 points of damage from the attack into 5.18 points of spirit damage.

1 13 Elizabeth hits you for 1877 piercing damage.
1 12 Your spirit shield absorbs 121 points of damage from the attack into 1.84 points of spirit damage.

1 15 Noihara Himari crits you for 1877 piercing damage.
1 14 You gain the effect Cloak of the Fallen.
1 13 Your Spark of Life restores you from the brink of defeat.
1 12 Your spirit shield absorbs 575 points of damage from the attack into 8.73 points of spirit damage.

1 12 Noihara Himari crits you for 1877 piercing damage.
1 11 Your spirit shield absorbs 320 points of damage from the attack into 4.86 points of spirit damage.

1 15 Elizabeth crits you for 1877 piercing damage.
1 14 Your spirit shield absorbs 1170 points of damage from the attack into 17.74 points of spirit damage.

All the exact same amount of damage, first 3 are regular attacks and the last 3 are crits. Each one absorbed a different amount of damage and used a different amount of spirit. Something about this just seemed odd.

Problem? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Just wait until Frith gives a name to E1la (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jun 10 2012, 21:50
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QUOTE(Lord_Obagon @ Jun 11 2012, 03:44) *

Also, Is spirit shield supposed to absorb different amounts of spirit if I am hit for the exact same amount of damage?

examples:
2 7 Liselotte Werckmeister hits you for 1877 slashing damage.
2 6 Your spirit shield absorbs 383 points of damage from the attack into 5.8 points of spirit damage.



Let's say like this. The total attack deals 2260 damage. 1877 is 25% of your max health and is not absorbed. Remaining 383 damage is absorbed and deals 5.8 SP damage.

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Any attack that hits for more than 25% of your max health will cause you to lose exactly 25% of your health, with the remainder absorbed as damage to your spirit.
The amount of Spirit damage depends on the power of the blow that was absorbed, and is 40% of base (reducible to 20% at max AP) for blows that would otherwise take off 100% or more health, linearly reducing to 0 at exactly 25% damage.
The spell will fail if you don't have sufficient Spirit.
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post Jun 10 2012, 21:54
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This patch makes it slightly harder which I don't have a problem with. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
The rewards should also be raised but you can't get everything. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Elizabeth is annoying but without the little annoyances the game would get boring. There are very few people who have played long enough to amass a large amount of chaos tokens and crystals and feed them to a single monster so I don't foresee many monsters like Elizabeth. They spawn less often now then before so it's not such a big problem.

On a unrelated note I finally got my favorite pony DJ Pon-3! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
That makes 21 ponies and Orbital Friendship Cannon is mine. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
People have complained that it have abysmal damage. I disagree with that as in spirit stance it killed 9/10 monsters on IWBTH with one shot (it couldn't get Elizabeth).
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post Jun 10 2012, 21:58
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QUOTE(varst @ Jun 10 2012, 20:50) *

Let's say like this. The total attack deals 2260 damage. 1877 is 25% of your max health and is not absorbed. Remaining 383 damage is absorbed and deals 5.8 SP damage.


I realized that a few minutes ago and I should stop trying to use logic while sleep deprived. Still, monsters triggering spirit shield with normal attacks on normal difficulty is ridicules, especially since it happens consistently. I am hoping to get one of them to spawn with a boss so I can see if they have surpassed them yet.
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post Jun 10 2012, 21:58
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QUOTE(TheGreyPanther @ Jun 10 2012, 19:54) *

On a unrelated note I finally got my favorite pony DJ Pon-3! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
That makes 21 ponies and Orbital Friendship Cannon is mine. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
People have complained that it have abysmal damage. I disagree with that as in spirit stance it killed 9/10 monsters on IWBTH with one shot (it couldn't get Elizabeth).


You are Victorious!
Redbulled Chicken has been defeated.
Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Redbulled Chicken for 488950 void damage.
Greawoid has been defeated.
Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Greawoid for 682381 void damage.
Pile Of Bugs has been defeated.
Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Pile Of Bugs for 677008 void damage.
Let Dahaka has been defeated.
Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Let Dahaka for 574919 void damage.
Kusakabe Misuzu has been defeated.
Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Kusakabe Misuzu for 666262 void damage.
Routes has been defeated.
Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Routes for 714620 void damage.
Old Turtle 4 has been defeated.
Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Old Turtle 4 for 569546 void damage.
Haruka Amami drops a Mana Gem powerup!
Haruka Amami has been defeated.
Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Haruka Amami for 628650 void damage.

ponies are funny (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 10 2012, 21:59
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you seem to place your confidence wrongly. OFC is probably one of the heaviest hitting options in the game - if not *the* hardest hitting move
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post Jun 10 2012, 22:14
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jun 10 2012, 19:59) *

you seem to place your confidence wrongly. OFC is probably one of the heaviest hitting options in the game - if not *the* hardest hitting move


we need more pony power (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Jun 10 2012, 22:16
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What happens if I rename one of my monsters into "Unnamed Humanoid"?
Does it stop spawning?
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post Jun 10 2012, 22:54
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QUOTE(Tiap @ Jun 10 2012, 22:16) *
What happens if I rename one of my monsters into "Unnamed Humanoid"?


Clever girl. No, it would simply reject it. (As of three minutes ago. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif))
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post Jun 10 2012, 22:57
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Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 1384 damage.

I guess not everything about this patch has been negative for me. Backstab Poision no longer sucks balls.

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Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 1730 damage.

Heartseeker affects Poision damage? That's cool.

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post Jun 10 2012, 23:07
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Jun 10 2012, 14:14) *

we need more pony power (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


bah i got ninja-ed earlier. was talking to grey
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post Jun 10 2012, 23:11
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Jun 10 2012, 21:07) *

bah i got ninja-ed earlier. was talking to grey


make it we need more ninja pony power stealth mode (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jun 10 2012, 23:13
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where's the +robot +nazi +aliens?
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post Jun 10 2012, 23:43
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Attached Image
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post Jun 11 2012, 00:29
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Jun 10 2012, 21:58) *

You are Victorious!
Routes has been defeated.
...
Orbital Friendship Cannon hits Routes for 714620 void damage.
...
ponies are funny (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(dcherry @ Jun 10 2012, 21:59) *

you seem to place your confidence wrongly. OFC is probably one of the heaviest hitting options in the game - if not *the* hardest hitting move

I knew it was good that was one of the reason to get the ponies. The other being that I'm a collector at heart and actually watched and liked MLP:FiM.
The people complaining about OFC damage where all mages and I know that OFC works better for a melee like myself. Made a point by feigning ignorance which is hard to do in written form especially when you actually are ignorant on many other things. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
QUOTE(4EverLost @ Jun 10 2012, 23:11) *

make it we need more ninja pony power stealth mode (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I second that suggestion. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Jun 11 2012, 01:09
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It seems by doubling the equipment drop chance, artifact drop rates got lowered way down.

Anyone else got a single artifact after the patch?
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post Jun 11 2012, 03:45
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Jun 10 2012, 19:09) *

It seems by doubling the equipment drop chance, artifact drop rates got lowered way down.

Anyone else got a single artifact after the patch?

Yes, but I don't count because I'm an OVERKILLER™.
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post Jun 11 2012, 04:09
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Well shit, this is both awesome and shitty...
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post Jun 11 2012, 04:19
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It's only been a short while after the patch. Wait a couple weeks to make sure it wasn't just bad luck with the RNG for artifacts.
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