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post Jun 3 2012, 07:01
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QUOTE(ExTe @ Jun 2 2012, 23:41) *

I dunno about this thou. i managed to buy 1 slaughter yesterday. i missed like 3 other attempts on slaughter n destruction till today. i thought i wasnt fast enuff..

Well the difference is I made no attempt to buy. Only to observe since others were complaining earlier today. That's not to say it's impossible to get those materials, because it's not, at least if it's against people. Like I said, I was doing 3 per second, which is close enough to real time to see there's a bot. Though I doubt someone is dumb enough to run it 24/7, and it obviously can't be run if they're doing anything else in HV.
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post Jun 3 2012, 07:05
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Maybe it was not running at the time? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

After spent the time in the shop for so long (no exaggeration), I can tell you that there's many ways one can get some clues whether bot is running or not, not just snatching speed.

Meh. Too lazy to give an example... I'll just say this then: Whenever I 'play' HV and ended up without getting any profitable materials from the shop, there is bot. This is a fact! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)



AFAIK bot usually don't buy trophy. Also, trophy almost always appeared in the first page of the shop, increase the chance of being bought by some random passer-by.
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post Jun 3 2012, 07:12
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well the trophies was sold off in batches of 16-18 and i was camping at the specials section f5ing. probably someone was doing the same.

as for the bazaar bot not 24/7. this would prove difficult to nab...
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post Jun 3 2012, 07:20
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2012-06-02 07:25    -17000    Purchased 17 "Mithra's Flower"

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Anyway...

2012-06-02 07:28 +16498 Sold 17 equipment pieces. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jun 3 2012, 07:22
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damn it was U lol
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post Jun 3 2012, 07:23
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2012-06-01 22:31    -17000    Purchased 17 "ManBearPig Tail"

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post Jun 3 2012, 07:32
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2012-06-03 05:27     -8000     Purchased 2 "Binding of Slaughter"
2012-06-03 05:26     -6000     Purchased 3 "Mid-Grade Metals"


Good, maybe they got scared off now.
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post Jun 3 2012, 07:45
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You only got those because my router are acting up at the moment! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Anyway... It's the same as yesterday and the crystal bot way back; after I (or others) say something about it here, the bot will cease its criminal activity almost immediately (not longer than ~5 minutes) ...

It must be someone around here... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Maybe not the 'usual' member, but he's here somewhere! (IMG:[bbs.pramool.com] http://bbs.pramool.com/webboard/pic/99.gif)
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post Jun 3 2012, 07:45
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Tenboro could probably check item sold and purchased log since theres credit log readily for us to view.

to see which were purchaed via bot speed but hes probably busy with diablo 3 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jun 3 2012, 07:46
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People actually buy crystals in the Bazaar? I can understand some of the bindings, but crystals?
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post Jun 3 2012, 07:51
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I do. its cheaper
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post Jun 3 2012, 08:49
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QUOTE(rpgman1 @ Jun 3 2012, 07:46) *

People actually buy crystals in the Bazaar? I can understand some of the bindings, but crystals?

With Penny Pincher/Golden Handshake, it is economically cheaper to buy straight from Bazaar, why buy from WTS where crystals selling at 60c plus 10c moogle fee when you could just buy for 49c/40c?

I think there is a crystal shopping bot, even the elemental crystals are all gone, and those normally sits for days

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post Jun 3 2012, 09:02
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This again? There still are no bots. I do check those logs once in a while, there is no indication of a particular user having a more or less unbroken chain of success over more than short periods of time, which would be the indication of one.
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post Jun 3 2012, 09:10
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Could you check the log for whoever buying all of these bait metal I sold? ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

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2012-06-02 19:37    +500    Sold 1 "Mid-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 19:02    +500    Sold 1 "Mid-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 19:02    +500    Sold 1 "Mid-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 18:59    +20    Sold 1 "Low-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 18:53    +20    Sold 1 "Low-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 18:52    +20    Sold 1 "Low-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 18:47    +20    Sold 1 "Low-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 18:41    +20    Sold 1 "Low-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 18:39    +20    Sold 1 "Low-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 18:37    +20    Sold 1 "Low-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 18:24    +500    Sold 1 "Mid-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 18:24    +20    Sold 1 "Low-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 18:22    +20    Sold 1 "Low-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 18:21    +20    Sold 1 "Low-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 18:20    +20    Sold 1 "Low-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 18:19    +20    Sold 1 "Low-Grade Metals"


Note the time delay between each test.

In item shop material page -> Sold the bait to the shop -> Immediately reload page -> the bait is gone ... Every single one of them. (Minus a few of the last low grade bait which the bot didn't snatch and someone else bought it after a few seconds of delay, which at first made me thought that it's gone, but using the medium grade bait proved otherwise...) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

It was not until about this time that I could managed to snatch some of the bait back

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2012-06-02 20:10    -2500    Purchased 1 "Mid-Grade Metals"
2012-06-02 20:10    +500    Sold 1 "Mid-Grade Metals"


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post Jun 3 2012, 09:58
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Jun 3 2012, 01:37) *

I have a lot of mobs under 25 just so I can get the 1% chance of stuff every hour.


Please define "a lot"... 100? 500? 1k? 10k?!?

Anyways, something tells me your army will soon turn 26+... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Jun 3 2012, 10:01
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I already told you there are no bot-like patterns. Your "bait" were bought by several different people, and the one who got most of them did it in between sending a Mooglemail and starting Adept Learner.
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post Jun 3 2012, 10:07
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I can't even remember the last time I saw a binding of Slaughter in the bazaar. I don't camp there but I do check it when I can.
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post Jun 3 2012, 10:09
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jun 3 2012, 07:01) *

Well the difference is I made no attempt to buy. Only to observe since others were complaining earlier today. That's not to say it's impossible to get those materials, because it's not, at least if it's against people. Like I said, I was doing 3 per second, which is close enough to real time to see there's a bot. Though I doubt someone is dumb enough to run it 24/7, and it obviously can't be run if they're doing anything else in HV.


I can't really say anything about materials, since everytime I check there's nothing I'd like to grab (always one step behind, I guess)... But as far as crystals go I can say there likely aren't any bots since in the past few days I managed to snag fortitude and vigor even though a couple of times I fumbled with the touchpad.

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post Jun 3 2012, 10:19
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That can't be! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ... Sorry for the trouble, then. I'll be more thorough next time, if there is still such an occasion... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

I still believe such bot exists and indeed still kicking and probably with better way of hiding its activity now, since some of the thing happening there seems unreal for people to do... but it won't be so easy to look for or test now...
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post Jun 3 2012, 10:25
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Considering that you have somewhere around 250ms latency to the servers while some people have in the low double-digits, it's not that unreal. Even east-coast USians would beat you by 100+ms.
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