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Do you guys think that there's a huge disparity between a weapon being voided/ethereal versus it being a plain weapon?

I noticed this trend started a while back. Many holy shit pieces are simply dominated by lesser ethereal pieces. While it's true that we now have void shards to help things out, there's still a huge disparity between an eth weapon and normal weapons.

I'm not sure if some will consider this a problem, but for me it's mind-blowing that some of my hard-earned weapons are simply useless, because they don't have ethereal.

TL,DR: Maybe Tenboro should tweak the ratios for ethereal dropping?

They are meant to be rare though, so...

Do you guys think that there's a huge disparity between a weapon being voided/ethereal versus it being a plain weapon?

I noticed this trend started a while back. Many holy shit pieces are simply dominated by lesser ethereal pieces. While it's true that we now have void shards to help things out, there's still a huge disparity between an eth weapon and normal weapons.

I'm not sure if some will consider this a problem, but for me it's mind-blowing that some of my hard-earned weapons are simply useless, because they don't have ethereal.

TL,DR: Maybe Tenboro should tweak the ratios for ethereal dropping?

Yes, there is a disparity, but not as huge as you might think. Also dependant on which weapon type.

Thanks to the popularity Giant (Crush resistant) and Dragonkin (also Crush resistant), Mace-users have headache, on top of the monster's high end and str. Having monsters sharing physical mitigation stat does not help at all. So eth mace is the most expensive item in the WTS, even those with useless suffixes.

Before the patch change, high-leveled players can get around this problem via Bleed that can inflict ridiculous high amount of damage, but now they cant do that anymore.

This patch change will see the popularity of Estoc and Rapier, thanks to the buff done to Penetrated Armor, thus bypassing 100% armor mitigation when procced, which means ethereal can be an option, albeit a forced one. A good non-eth estoc works just as great as the eth ones, perhaps even better, thanks to the item stat roll.

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I won't going to see anyone, mage and melee alike, complains about how 'oh... the game is too hard blah blah' anymore, right? ... I mean, for Pete's sake, even Ichy like this patch! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

This post has been edited by buktore: May 7 2012, 02:49

Yes, there is a disparity, but not as huge as you might think. Also dependant on which weapon type.

Thanks to the popularity Giant (Crush resistant) and Dragonkin (also Crush resistant), Mace-users have headache, on top of the monster's high end and str. Having monsters sharing physical mitigation stat does not help at all. So eth mace is the most expensive item in the WTS, even those with useless suffixes.

Before the patch change, high-leveled players can get around this problem via Bleed that can inflict ridiculous high amount of damage, but now they cant do that anymore.

This patch change will see the popularity of Estoc and Rapier, thanks to the buff done to Penetrated Armor, thus bypassing 100% armor mitigation when procced, which means ethereal can be an option, albeit a forced one. A good non-eth estoc works just as great as the eth ones, perhaps even better, thanks to the item stat roll.

Yup. But that is the exception, not the rule. Consider all the other types of 2H weapons remaining. Mace used to be slow before, with or without void damage, and now it's really really slow. Bleed doesn't work anymore, with or without void. So only estoc is really viable without being void.

I don't think that weapon landscape is balanced at all. Every type of weapon should be viable, with or without void. Unfortunately that's not the case.

On a side note, when will 1H+S ever be buffed? As it stands, it's a ticket to boring land, really.

Hmm, there are quite a few good movies coming out. Maybe I should start training 1H+S with my Rapier + buckler combo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Should be good for a few movies (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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I won't going to see anyone complains about how 'oh... the game is too hard blah blah' anymore, right? ... I mean, For Pete's sake, even Ichy like this patch! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Ichy like this patch because Tenb buffed his favorite weapon. I aint complaining because my eth Rapier (thanks, Midnight) also got the buff.

I will wait for Scythe users complaining about the Bleed nerf within this few days.

Maybe Tenboro should tweak the ratios for ethereal dropping?

Ethereal ratios have already been increased 3 months back, so...

Ichy like this patch because Tenb buffed his favorite weapon. I aint complaining because my eth Rapier (thanks, Midnight) also got the buff.

I will wait for Scythe users complaining about the Bleed nerf within this few days.

Noooooo... My Legendary Scythe!!!!1!1!1! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Not that I was a big 2H player anyways, and I still have my Eth Mace.

Ichy like this patch because Tenb buffed his favorite weapon.

This is false.

Nooooooo, my longsword collection (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

3 4 Yggdrasil has been defeated.
3 3 Great Cleave hits Yggdrasil for 78342 piercing damage.
3 2 You gain the effect Chain 1.
3 1 You use Great Cleave.
2 6 Regen II restores 76 points of health.
2 5 You evade the attack from Urd.
2 4 You parry the attack from Skuld.
2 3 You evade the attack from Yggdrasil.
2 2 You evade the attack from Verdandi.
2 1 Spirit Stance Engaged
1 6 Regen II restores 651 points of health.
1 5 Skuld gains the effect Nerfed.
1 4 Urd gains the effect Nerfed.
1 3 Verdandi gains the effect Nerfed.
1 2 Yggdrasil gains the effect Nerfed.
1 1 You cast X-Nerf.

This was just on Hard, but I could never one shot a boss on Normal before with Shatter Strike. I'm glad 2handers got some boss killing power.

Rounds much faster now, don't need to spend half the time healing.

Melee weapons/armors with 'Ox' suffix suddenly seem more appealing now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This just dropped for me.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6ffaeea279

Wtf, no PAB?

Melee weapons/armors with 'Ox' suffix suddenly seem more appealing now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Just makes them more appealing then they were before. It is a lot more of a playing field compared to slaughter > all

This post has been edited by skillchip: May 7 2012, 05:36

I've cleared a couple of 250+ Magnificent IWs on Hard yesterday: one with my estoc and one with my scythe (both sharded, of course). And I can say the following:

Estoc: weapon damage is outrageous, but after you go beyond wave 100-120 - it starts to get tough, 'cause you get a shitload of hits every round, at least when you're wearing kevlar.

Scythe: weapon damage is a little lower, but it compensates by Bleed. Also I've noticed Bleed increase when you're in Spirit Stance mode. So if your scythe have a good proc chance and duration - it's still very good for IWs. But after wave 100-120 - same thing like with an estoc, it becomes hard.

Overall: Estocs are powerful as fuck, Scythes are not so destructive, but still good. Bleed isn't a dominating part of its damage anymore, but it doesn't prevent scythes from being a good weapon.

Both of this weapon types are improved by my experience, but you must use a Shade set with high evade and stuff, otherwise you'll become a punching bag on high difficulties. For Kevlar users maces are still the best decision, but now we have more variety, 'cause Ox suffix became useful. At least it feels like it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Man, just think how awesome phase gear would be if people hadn't complained about it. They would have evade, agi, dex, int, and wis!

Magnificent Scythe of Balance
turned in one of my emblems. guess the better quality loot roll is working, but wrong suffix, though it has ridiculous wdb for a balance.

Man, just think how awesome phase gear would be if people hadn't complained about it. They would have evade, agi, dex, int, and wis!

I still have a old.phase robe. the stats overall was nicely spreaded out

Heartseeker also increases bleed by a bit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Man, just think how awesome phase gear would be if people hadn't complained about it. They would have evade, agi, dex, int, and wis!

Like this or this? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

P.S.:

People sure are dumb.