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Dec 12 2010, 02:58
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Razorflame
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Yeah, I hear you. I used to do 10 full IW worlds back when I first started, but now, I average only a few full Item Worlds and many incomplete ones....I never seem to be able to finish them :/
By the way, I read on the Wiki that people who are in certain places on the Toplists on the gallery site gain bonuses to gained experience in HentaiVerse....can anyone verify this?
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Dec 12 2010, 04:53
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Conquest101
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QUOTE(Death Grunty @ Dec 11 2010, 16:52)  I'm wondering. What's the fastest way to kill FSM and when will I be able to do it? I want something like 100 turns or so to make it quick.
Or rather when is it going to be farmable? Same question really.
*cast Banish* r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r......... That still takes me about 150 turns or so though, since certain buffs/debuffs are still necessary. Time wise though, it goes quite quickly. Just a couple of minutes.
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Dec 12 2010, 05:05
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Dec 12 2010, 02:53)  *cast Banish* r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r.........
That still takes me about 150 turns or so though, since certain buffs/debuffs are still necessary. Time wise though, it goes quite quickly. Just a couple of minutes.
Huh, soul burst isn't faster? Still so many turns? I killed FSM with Ragnarok, and it took me less than 400 turns, but I had to use magic missile wasting a lot of turns since I didn't have enough mana pool. This post has been edited by cmdct: Dec 12 2010, 05:06
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Dec 12 2010, 05:30
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Conquest101
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Dec 11 2010, 19:05)  Huh, soul burst isn't faster?
Still so many turns? I killed FSM with Ragnarok, and it took me less than 400 turns, but I had to use magic missile wasting a lot of turns since I didn't have enough mana pool.
It might be. I haven't done it though, for whatever reason. That's how long it takes for me, and I doubt many people have a better holy set than I do. I'm using staff though, I dunno if PA + Banish would take less turns (doubtful) and it would certainly take more time.
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Dec 12 2010, 05:44
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hitokiri84
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Soul Burst is incredibly faster... I'll post an example in a few days. I don't have time to actually play right now. QUOTE(cmal @ Dec 11 2010, 16:04)  Come back and say that when you need 200 million XP to level.
*cough*339*cough* QUOTE(cmdct @ Dec 11 2010, 16:22)  And on battletoads you get 10X multiplier so it's more like he trained +10%... Don't forget about hath perks... so it's really more like 17.5%. For the time being. QUOTE(sushi0 @ Dec 11 2010, 16:12)  It's the exact opposite of that. No it's not, scrub. That's why I still train it. It's part of the reason why I'm over 3 BILLION EXP ahead of the next closest guy. This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Dec 12 2010, 05:45
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Dec 12 2010, 05:57
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Razorflame
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Dec 11 2010, 21:44)  Soul Burst is incredibly faster... I'll post an example in a few days. I don't have time to actually play right now.
*cough*339*cough* Don't forget about hath perks... so it's really more like 17.5%. For the time being. No it's not, scrub. That's why I still train it. It's part of the reason why I'm over 3 BILLION EXP ahead of the next closest guy.
Hey hitokiri...I read on the wiki that people who are in the toplist son the gallery website get experience bonuses....do you know this to be true?
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Dec 12 2010, 06:06
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Sushilicious
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Dec 12 2010, 05:44)  No it's not, scrub. That's why I still train it. It's part of the reason why I'm over 3 BILLION EXP ahead of the next closest guy.
I actually had some respect for you but I guess you're also one of those that resorts to insults when you can't use reason in an argument. OK, you have learning chip, good for you. That doesn't change the fact that the more exp bonus you have from AL, the lesser the effect becomes. It's basic elementary math. Let's face it, the only reason why you're "over 3 BILLION EXP" ahead is because you play more and has been here longer than the rest, not because of your godly level in AL.
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Dec 12 2010, 06:26
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marcho
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Dec 11 2010, 22:06)  I actually had some respect for you but I guess you're also one of those that resorts to insults when you can't use reason in an argument. OK, you have learning chip, good for you. That doesn't change the fact that the more exp bonus you have from AL, the lesser the effect becomes. It's basic elementary math. Let's face it, the only reason why you're "over 3 BILLION EXP" ahead is because you play more and has been here longer than the rest, not because of your godly level in AL.
Increases all gained EXP by X%. This increase is applied separately after all other bonuses have been added.it is a true X% increase, unlike the stacking you get from other exp bonuses.
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Dec 12 2010, 06:34
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Honeycat
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Someone's getting Pompous Ass Syndrome again. Tsk tsk.
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Dec 12 2010, 06:53
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Conquest101
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Dec 11 2010, 19:44)  Soul Burst is incredibly faster... I'll post an example in a few days. I don't have time to actually play right now.
I'll test it tomorrow. I think the one time I did it, I wasn't terribly impressed with the results, at least not on FSM. All my Forbidden stuff including prof is improved now though, so I'll try it again.
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Dec 12 2010, 06:55
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4EverLost
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67 13 Real Life dropped [Black T-Shirt] 133 5 Invisible Pink Unicorn dropped [Unicorn Horn] 297 5 Flying Spaghetti Monster dropped [Noodly Appendage]
my soul damage still isn't very good or RL and IPU would be faster.
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Dec 12 2010, 08:47
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Dec 11 2010, 22:06)  It's basic elementary math. Whatever you say, guy that hasn't been here two months, yet knows better than everyone. Perhaps you should focus more on your elementary reading comprehension. QUOTE(Razorflame @ Dec 11 2010, 21:57)  Hey hitokiri...I read on the wiki that people who are in the toplist son the gallery website get experience bonuses....do you know this to be true?
yes This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Dec 12 2010, 08:51
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Dec 12 2010, 09:32
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Dec 12 2010, 08:47)  Whatever you say, guy that hasn't been here two months, yet knows better than everyone.[/i].
I could be here for one day and still say the same thing. Apparently the amount of time one has joined on the forums equates to intelligence. I don't know better than everyone, just you. I was about to post a whole bunch of calculations on how the diminishing returns work in this case but I guess it's pointless to someone that don't listen or read rather.
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Dec 12 2010, 09:44
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marcho
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QUOTE(marcho @ Dec 11 2010, 22:26)  Increases all gained EXP by X%. This increase is applied separately after all other bonuses have been added.
it is a true X% increase, unlike the stacking you get from other exp bonuses.
Unless the tooltip lies. say base exp earned is 100. and he has 1000% increased exp from AL, auras etc. he would get 1000 exp. his hath perk gives an additional 75% after that initial calculation, giving him 1750 exp rather than 1075 (1075% had it been standard stacking). edit: this is dealing only with the perk. all of the other exp boosts are a flat increase to the base, so if you were getting 1000 exp from 1000% increased and trained 1% in AL, it should only give you 1001 exp not an additional 1% of the 1000 (1010) edit festival: this being a roundabout way of saying aside from time the hath perks should play a major role in exp gain discrepancies between players. edit festival brought to you by me finaly reading the previous page. derp. This post has been edited by marcho: Dec 12 2010, 09:53
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Dec 12 2010, 13:05
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Dec 12 2010, 03:30)  That's how long it takes for me, and I doubt many people have a better holy set than I do. I'm using staff though, I dunno if PA + Banish would take less turns (doubtful) and it would certainly take more time.
You have a full heimdall set? QUOTE(4EverLost @ Dec 12 2010, 04:55)  133 5 Invisible Pink Unicorn dropped [Unicorn Horn]
Is this with demon-fiend gear? I think I should be doing the same with dark (I'll see once I get another token) QUOTE(marcho @ Dec 12 2010, 04:26)  Increases all gained EXP by X%. This increase is applied separately after all other bonuses have been added.
Heh, I didn't knew that, perhaps I'm go for them now. Edit: 144 6 Invisible Pink Unicorn dropped [Unicorn Horn] This post has been edited by cmdct: Dec 12 2010, 14:23
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Dec 12 2010, 14:32
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Dec 12 2010, 11:05)  Is this with demon-fiend gear? I think I should be doing the same with dark (I'll see once I get another token)
ya, I was using demon-fiend gear but casting ragnarok. I think I only have a 1 Fenrir armor (shoes +9%) so I just used the demon-fiend stuff. Then I also put them to sleep while I cast all my junk at the start, that takes ~15 turns.
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Dec 12 2010, 14:53
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Dec 12 2010, 12:32)  ya, I was using demon-fiend gear but casting ragnarok. I think I only have a 1 Fenrir armor (shoes +9%) so I just used the demon-fiend stuff. Then I also put them to sleep while I cast all my junk at the start, that takes ~15 turns.
Cast Weaken+Blind, you'll take much less damage you don't need to cast sleep. Just for curiosity I still have 40 level of forbidden raise until cap, so I can say we have the "same dark power", but the difference is while you much higher magic rating, and much better demon-fiend gear, I only have 3 mediocre fenrir pieces, 1 good, and a average demon-fiend cap. That's a total 84.1 dark EDB, and 66.1 forbidden prof bonus. What if it was elec instead? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) This post has been edited by cmdct: Dec 12 2010, 16:52
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Dec 12 2010, 17:36
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Conquest101
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Dec 12 2010, 03:05)  You have a full heimdall set?
No. I have 3 out of 5 pieces, though I only use my 14+ gloves and 20+ robe. I have a cap as well that would be 14+ if I could be arsed to raise it 60 levels or so. I don't know if it'd be worth replacing my 36+ prof cap for it anyway, so I haven't bothered yet. My last 2 pieces are a 36+, 6+ INT pants and 25+, 5+ INT shoes. Most of my pieces are like 15 levels behind though, since I haven't leveled them for quite awhile. Sigh.
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Dec 12 2010, 19:04
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grumpymal
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QUOTE(sushi0 @ Dec 12 2010, 02:32)  diminishing returns
Welcome to HentaiVerse, the game about diminishing returns. And for everyone's edification, here is the formula for XP bonuses as described by Sonic: QUOTE(Sonic @ Dec 12 2010, 00:56) SumOfAuras * (1 + EXPAbilities + AdeptLearner + DailyPostCountBonus + ToplistEXPBonus) * (1 + HathEXPBonus)
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Dec 12 2010, 20:49
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Sushilicious
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QUOTE(cmal @ Dec 12 2010, 19:04)  Welcome to HentaiVerse, the game about diminishing returns.
Pretty much. I actually prefer it to have diminishing returns rather than not though as to balance things out and not make the game too easymode later on. QUOTE And for everyone's edification, here is the formula for XP bonuses as described by Sonic:
Thanks for posting Sonic's formula. It matches exactly what I had in mind of how the exp bonus works, but this just confirms it.
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