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Jan 26 2012, 22:28
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roadgray
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 26 2012, 21:21)  I find it strange that the Bazaar isn't packed with High-grade given that there are literally no realistic WTB offers. By that, I mean offers that are actually higher than the base sell value in the bazaar, which is now 10k.
Even stranger, I've seen a few high-grade leather in the bazaar here and there, and someone is actually buying them for 40,000 to 50,000 each, depending on their credit perks.
It seems strange that there aren't large amounts of high-grade leather and metal in the Bazaar, especially with all the leather and metal special pieces maxed at 100 all the time. Is everyone just resisting the urge to chunk them all on the Bazaar for hundreds of thousands of credits in hopes that some demand will actually show up in WTB?
I don't think there are that many high-grade materials and the people who have them actually use/save or trade them. Low level players can get rare materials, but not high-grade materials. I guess that's where this imbalance comes from.
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Jan 26 2012, 22:53
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hitokiri84
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Most high level mages here probably have a big stack of H-G leather in their inventory since no one will trade for or buy them. That's why I'm surprised they haven't shown up in the bazaar in bulk. Lower levels might want to use H-G Leather, but probably just don't have the credits or other H-G material to trade with. On the other hand, high level meleers on the forum seem to be shifting back in favor of heavy.
That's why I find it peculiar that someone is buying H-G Leather from the bazaar when there is tons of it available on the forum for much cheaper, yet at the same time, there isn't tons of it being dumped.
I'm positive tenboro spiked the price of H-G to make people sell them to the bazaar, thus making them more available to low level people without strong monsters, but it doesn't seem to be working so far.
This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Jan 26 2012, 22:54
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Jan 26 2012, 23:50
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Bunker Buster
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you know they're saving it for that legendary shade armor/katalox staff/ethereal mace that'll never appear
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Jan 26 2012, 23:59
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Ballistic9
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Probably non-forum frequenting lurkers. The resist binding dumps didn't start 'til this patch either.
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Jan 27 2012, 00:31
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4EverLost
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I've only seen high grades in the bazaar a few times and that was before the last buttfuck patch. I got what was there but haven't seen any since.
Also none of my monsters have given me a high grade, but then I only have 1 over 250.
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Jan 27 2012, 01:19
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Ichy
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I see no point in upgrading right now. No matter how much you upgrade you still suck (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Jan 27 2012, 01:39
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jan 26 2012, 23:19)  I see no point in upgrading right now. No matter how much you upgrade you still suck (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) i've only upgraded 2 items, a Staff and a Heimdall Phase and both of them haven't been done too many times. It seems to get back to where we were before this last patch you need to upgrade staff damage 50x + 50 more on a staff then 50-100 upgrades on armor. so we can all spend 100 mill credits to buy all that because there is no way you'll get that much stuff from monsters unless you have 50-100 +300PL monsters. BTW is it just me but isn't it kind of fucked up that shade was changed in this patch when people that had something good in the last patch they used up materials on that but now the old stuff sucks?
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Jan 27 2012, 01:45
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grumpymal
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Jan 26 2012, 18:39)  BTW is it just me but isn't it kind of fucked up that shade was changed in this patch when people that had something good in the last patch they used up materials on that but now the old stuff sucks?
Just as keikaku.
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Jan 27 2012, 01:50
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Vasistas
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I'm waiting too for either an very good ethereal or more drops. It's quite an accomplishment to max out one equip and most have 6 pieces plus secondaries. And I idiotically sold so much materials off the bazaar for just buying some more crystals before I finally realized that I will seek them later desperately.
I don't sell materials anymore and whenever I see some at the bazaar someone else clutches them before me. I rarely really get materials from the bazaar but bindings are ok, I mostly manage to get a grip on them before others.
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Jan 27 2012, 04:08
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(derpymal @ Jan 26 2012, 17:45)  Just as keikaku.
The exact reason why I will only upgrade my staff.
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Jan 27 2012, 04:18
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 27 2012, 02:08)  The exact reason why I will only upgrade my staff.
haven't you ever found something close to that one yet?
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Jan 27 2012, 05:54
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hitokiri84
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Not even close. It's pretty much 3-4 staffs in one. The only thing it's missing is a crit bonus, but I think I can live without it.
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Jan 27 2012, 05:58
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 27 2012, 03:54)  Not even close. It's pretty much 3-4 staffs in one. The only thing it's missing is a crit bonus, but I think I can live without it.
you still use that staff when using holy/dark?
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Jan 27 2012, 06:06
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hitokiri84
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No reason to ever use Dark. Holy only ever gets used on legendary arenas and FSM, and multiplicative damage calculations make using katalox pointless. Massive MDM+Wind EDB+Elemental (for Konata) balanced with Heimdall gear (others) is much faster for legendary arenas (especially for BT/IWBTH,) and I can already kill IWBTH FSM in 500 turns using no items, so there's no reason to use anything else.
This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Jan 27 2012, 06:08
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Jan 27 2012, 06:36
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4EverLost
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 27 2012, 04:06)  No reason to ever use Dark. Holy only ever gets used on legendary arenas and FSM, and multiplicative damage calculations make using katalox pointless. Massive MDM+Wind EDB+Elemental (for Konata) balanced with Heimdall gear (others) is much faster for legendary arenas (especially for BT/IWBTH,) and I can already kill IWBTH FSM in 500 turns using no items, so there's no reason to use anything else.
Humm, I still use dark spells when doing the lower arenas most of the time, Holy for last ones. I haven't been using elemental spells for a long time but if I did an GF or something I guess I'd try it again. FSM is silly easy now, this patch cut about 300 turns in killing it. I use to only do it when I had great stamina but now its not needed. Didn't it take 50,000 turns to kill FSM-IWBTH melee at first? btw: doesn't it seem FSM drops and trophies have been junk?
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Jan 27 2012, 07:32
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Jan 26 2012, 22:36)  btw: doesn't it seem FSM drops and trophies have been junk? I mostly get the same garbage as I do playing everything else on normal. Definitely nothing worth mentioning. This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Jan 27 2012, 07:32
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Jan 27 2012, 21:59
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hzqr
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2012-01-27 19:58 -15000 Purchased 3 "Binding of Destruction"
/evil laugh
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Jan 28 2012, 00:58
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grumpymal
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I never realized what kind of piss-poor damage Magic Missile did without massive Elemental proficiency.
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Jan 28 2012, 02:51
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Raidy
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Jan 28 2012, 11:32
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buktore
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2 1 You crit Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 6313 void damage. --- 1 1 You hit Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen for 6613 void damage. 0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=3730 (Eila Ilmatar Juutilainen) LV=266 HP=9727.75 ..... I don't get it... Without any proc or anything, how could this happen? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Let: A = 1.5 A = B Lowest dmg roll = 1 Maxed random dmg roll multiplier = A Crit multiplier = B Highest normal dmg = 1A Lowest crit hit = 1B 1A =/= 1B ??? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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