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A significant percentage of misc galleries are 3d. While I think most of them (with few exceptions) are crap, there are likely thousands of them (a rough search gives over 2,000; most of them but not all in misc (and making close to half of them).

I think that >2,000 3d galleries deserve a their own new category (as in - their own magical tag and (IMG:[g.ehgt.org] http://g.ehgt.org/img/c/imageset.png)-like image). They are also distinct enough to be easily marked out of the misc, thus making us step closer to cleaning up that mess (no, I am not saying misc will ever go away, but the more order in it, the better).

And while we are at it, what about 900+ artbooks?

Oh, and 900 is enough for a new magical category, seeing as we have one for less than twice that number (1,700-ish) cosplay galleries.

EDIT: the poll question should read categories, not galleries. Sigh.

This post has been edited by Red_Piotrus: Sep 23 2010, 03:36

They have a category, it's called Misc.

They have a category, it's called Misc.

For the record, artbooks are currently in dojin (if unofficial), manga (if official), non-h (if... you get the idea, right?) and western (...). That's not Misc, that's a Mess.

This post has been edited by Red_Piotrus: Sep 22 2010, 21:50

What exactly would be left in misc if you took 3d out? non-h western? western galleries that need to be reclassed?

What exactly would be left in misc if you took 3d out? non-h western? western galleries that need to be reclassed?

Well, whatever would be left would be easier to analyze and reclass. Few things of the top of my head:
* non-h western galleries
* photos of Japanese h figurines/pvc models (examples)
* scans of novels (examples) (although this is debatable if they are misc or not..., particularly if they have several h images...for example [%5dhttp] this gallery has 20 or so h images - it's almost asking uploaders to make imagesets out of them, sigh)
And frankly, I'd would like to see the figurines and novels separated out, too, but their small number makes it more of a problem to justify such a request for now, I'd think.

This post has been edited by Red_Piotrus: Sep 22 2010, 22:01

Well, whatever would be left would be easier to analyze and reclass.

It's not like they are hard to find currently.

So, what you're saying is that you want every possible thing that would go into Misc to have it's own category.
Which would mean there's no point in having a misc category, and we'd have a bunch of pointless ones that would just be the new misc.

You know what, we should separate furry from western, and translated doujin from non translated, oh and manga too, and we should probably have a seperate category for each translation language, and each country could have it's own asian porn category, and non-h can be split into official releases and fanbooks, and we could go on and on until there's 80 different categories.

Or we could not be retarded.

So, what you're saying is that you want every possible thing that would go into Misc to have it's own category.
Which would mean there's no point in having a misc category, and we'd have a bunch of pointless ones that would just be the new misc.

The smaller the misc, the better. And if something is large enough to have hundreds of galleries, than yes, it should be separated. Misc is for stuff that cannot be classified as something else (as the name implies, you know).

You know what, we should separate furry from western, and translated doujin from non translated, oh and manga too, and we should probably have a seperate category for each translation language, and each country could have it's own asian porn category, and non-h can be split into official releases and fanbooks, and we could go on and on until there's 80 different categories.

Or we could not be retarded.

Furry is not a bad idea, perhaps, but I haven't thought about it much, so let's avoid straw man arguments. Same for splitting non-h, it is a bit of a mess, but once thing at a time. Translated and untranslated is unnecessary, the language is irrelevant to us on that level of categorization.

Take your OCD over-sorting elsewhere, there's no need for it here.

Take your OCD over-sorting elsewhere, there's no need for it here.

I love you too, blade. Now go troll somewhere else, will you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by Red_Piotrus: Sep 23 2010, 01:49

I'm not trolling, your idea is stupid and pointless.

He isn't trolling, he is posing a legitimate question: at what point do you stop?
You could easily have categories for 3d, artbooks, non-h western, pvc figures, furry, and western image sets.
Or we could leave the 2nd smallest category alone.

You stated you think most 3D content is garbage, so why not leave it in category that has upload restrictions, and is usually pushed aside when searching? As for artbooks, they're sorted by content at the moment, and 900 galleries doesn't warrant a fairly major change to a system that works.

You stated you think most 3D content is garbage, so why not leave it in category that has upload restrictions, and is usually pushed aside when searching?

Upload restrictions could/would be put on a hypothetical 3d gallery.

As for artbooks, they're sorted by content at the moment, and 900 galleries doesn't warrant a fairly major change to a system that works.

This.

He isn't trolling, he is posing a legitimate question: at what point do you stop?
You could easily have categories for 3d, artbooks, non-h western, pvc figures, furry, and western image sets.
Or we could leave the 2nd smallest category alone.

He was posting legitimate concerns earlier, to which I replied. When he started trolling, I commented on it as such (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You are right we can have those cats - or not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) So what is the benefit in the status quo? I am not seeing any; might as well argue that we should remove some existing cats and go back to the old days when there were fewer.

Of course, were do you stop IS a legit question. We can stop at a certain numerical treshold - but keep in mind that currently cosplay is less numerous than 3d.

Personally, I'd chose some numerical cut off point under current cosplay count, and add a two more: 1) impossible to define clearly and 2) not logical in the current category theme. The 1) is obvious; the 2) means to prevent using those categories for things that are already done well (such as marking languages or rewrites).

One can of course make the case for other variations, or keeping the status quo. In my opinion, 3d is distinctive and numerous enough to merit a dedicated cat, and artbooks are currently confusingly split into three or four groups. The gallery system will be better if they are separated.

You stated you think most 3D content is garbage, so why not leave it in category that has upload restrictions, and is usually pushed aside when searching? As for artbooks, they're sorted by content at the moment, and 900 galleries doesn't warrant a fairly major change to a system that works.

It is not about what I like or dislike; I think 3d being separated is logical.

As for 900 not being enough... at some point we had less than 900 cosplay sets, or gamecg sets, or even dojins and manga sets. Will you change your mind in a year or two when we have as many artbooks as there are cosplay sets now (roughly, 1,800)?

I was not trolling.

People with OCD frequently exhibit a habitual need for over-classifying items in their lives, much like you are attempting to do with the galleries here.

That's what I was saying, that and that it's silly and pointless to have a 3d category when there's a perfectly good 3d tag, not to mention the fact that not all 3d is Misc, so it wouldn't be as simple as a split off from one category, you'd have to redefine artist cg and game cg to exclude 3d art/games by asian developers/artists, or we'd just have a western only 3d section, which is even more pointless.

Furry is not a bad idea, perhaps, but I haven't thought about it much, so let's avoid straw man arguments.

If we get a Furry category, I'll request one for futanari. That makes just as much sense.

Misc is for stuff that cannot be classified as something else (as the name implies, you know).

Just for clarification: Misc is for galleries that cannot be categorized into "any of the other gallery categories present". EVERYTHING in misc can technically be classified to "something else" but none of those classifications meet the other categories, hence why they are misc. This may be obvious but more is the point that with enough differentiation a miscellaneous category does not need to exist, but this separation is largely superfluous.

..doesn't warrant a fairly major change to a system that works...

It's actually not as major as you'd think, it is likely more of just making sure that everything understands there are more categories (which is read from the database), and it's not actually changing how anything works.

As for 900 not being enough... at some point we had less than 900 cosplay sets, or gamecg sets, or even dojins and manga sets. Will you change your mind in a year or two when we have as many artbooks as there are cosplay sets now (roughly, 1,800)?

This point it moot. Back when we only had 900 of any of those (excluding cosplay) sets, there were FAR less galleries in the system, so proportionally 900 was still relatively significant. I personally wouldn't mind seeing cosplay being absorbed into Asian Porn except for the fact nearly half of them are non-nude (which means they would not fit in Asian porn because of that).





Just sayin~

Just for clarification: Misc is for galleries that cannot be categorized into "any of the other gallery categories present". EVERYTHING in misc can technically be classified to "something else" but none of those classifications meet the other categories, hence why they are misc.

This.

I personally wouldn't mind seeing cosplay being absorbed into Asian Porn except for the fact nearly half of them are non-nude (which means they would not fit in Asian porn because of that).
Just sayin~

This could be solved by getting rid of both.
Just sayin~

It's not a bad idea, but it's not really needed. If anyone wanted 3d galleries they would just type 3d to find the tag. Aside from that, it's just an image set.