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Yesterday, 17:23
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-The Dashing Dash-
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 825
Joined: 4-March 16

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I dropped a force shield, it's asking metal and not wood to upgrade. Not sure if the change is intentionnal
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Yesterday, 17:24
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(Ramaki @ Nov 4 2025, 14:23)  Related: I thought that Evade did just that. That it prevented Block and Parry from occurring for it had a priority over them. It used to, but with the new accuracy logic, evade/block/parry roll independently and can all happen at the same time. QUOTE(Jake643 @ Nov 4 2025, 15:44)  My interpretation of the original avoidance patch notes was that you wanted to avoid the common case in previous version where 1h heavy players intentionally neglect Shadow Veil from their buffs because evade reduced their counter attacks. Have I misunderstood? Shadow Veil isn't a stat, it's a buff, and I specifically said I wanted to address the problem where increasing stats is detrimental. High-burden parry/block builds don't need a buff compared to low-burden evade builds, but like I said before, I also specifically want to try avoid nerfing stuff, especially when it comes to survivability. The Shadow Veil change should be fairly neutral for the former - even with zero evade, the fact that whiffs are not subject to counter-evade means you should get about the same effective evasion as you do with the old version against average-ish boosted monsters. And for the latter, it should be a moderate buff, since you get the natural evade increase in addition. QUOTE(what_is_name @ Nov 4 2025, 14:54)  is there any reason to adjacent offhand parry bonus for different equips? the rapier naturally have lower parry than waki, and now it have no parry bonus, make it almost unusable in offhand. Mostly to establish daggers and wakizashi as a "natural" off-hand weapon. They have less damage, so if they got nothing, I figure no one would even consider them. QUOTE(namae56709 @ Nov 4 2025, 15:57)  There is a minor visual bug after the accuracy and shade burden changes after unequipping and re-equipping. Hovering over an updated piece in the equip menu or armory shows the old values, but going to the modify screen or https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/equip/117418/f24900809d shows the correct values. No big deal, just thought you should know. It should update your cached equipment stats the next time you do something that changes your equipment (buy an equip, repair something, etc).
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Yesterday, 17:48
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l13763824039
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,349
Joined: 6-July 21

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220 level, 1H heavy, just done PFUDOR on 12 rounds arena. It's doable with debuff now. It's only a little bit harder than before. I can only confirm that the difficulty is similar to the old version at my level. Upgrade seems broken, see Ramaki's picturestIW looks good to me. IW15 is 300 level + nintendo. IW16 is 340 level + IWBTH. I guess IW25 is like the tower Hopefully, we don't need a full IWed gear to complete the tower. Also, when this mechanism comes to the Persistent, we can actually play tower.
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Yesterday, 18:03
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Tenboro

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Cool, thanks for the feedback. QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Nov 4 2025, 16:48)  Upgrade seems broken, see Ramaki's picturestBroken, how? Far as I can see it increased the damage stat by ~2% (459 * 1.02 = 468) and the rest by ~1% (130.9 * 1.01 = 132.2), just as advertised.
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Yesterday, 18:04
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namae56709
Group: Members
Posts: 152
Joined: 15-September 17

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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 4 2025, 15:24)  It should update your cached equipment stats the next time you do something that changes your equipment (buy an equip, repair something, etc).
Yep, it updated. QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Nov 4 2025, 15:48)  Upgrade seems broken, see Ramaki's picturestThat's a 2% damage increase and 1% increase for everything else, as intended. Bear in mind that the display rounds to 2 decimal places.
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Yesterday, 18:19
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iztecteocuitlatl
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 189
Joined: 17-May 15

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In armory page, for all-type equipment, why only "new" tab but no "all"? How old the equipment be can be not listed in "new"?
Can you add "auto-lock", "auto-pin", "auto-store" in settings page?
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Yesterday, 18:47
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cs987987
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,153
Joined: 11-March 12

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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 3 2025, 17:43)  QUOTE For both, you now get the Early Bird equipment-to-item drop ratio (twice the base Isekai ratio) until level 200 regardless of other factors. Would the Early Bird until level 250 or 300 I still play the Hell difficulties in the arena which the Min Level over 120 I always die when I play Hell difficulties
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Yesterday, 18:58
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SIRIUSs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,303
Joined: 13-June 10

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QUOTE Charms can still be obtained by clearing Item Worlds, but are not automatically attached to the cleared equipment. Charms and pouches can also be obtained by offering trophies in The Shrine, and can be traded in The Market.
Bug report(?): Me and Byza can send charms to each other via MM. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by SIRIUSs: Yesterday, 19:03
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Yesterday, 19:03
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Basara Nekki
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,822
Joined: 13-September 12

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I noticed that now the current Shielding Plates have no base value for Block. Does this mean that the values will be fixed, that is, it will no longer be possible to upgrade it?
Elemental prefixes also have no base value.
Reactive equipment has base value for Block.
And if that's the case, does this mean that after the conversion in Persistent my Shielding Plate will have a fixed value regardless of the current number of upgrades I've already done? For example, I have a Peerless Shielding with 25 upgrade levels for Block; so regardless of that, after the conversion the equipment will have maximum block value?
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Yesterday, 19:07
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Ramaki
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Posts: 479
Joined: 18-June 15

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I have cleared the 80 round arena in PFUDOR. No Shadow Veil, no scrolls, all the deprecating spells. The actual test of the Shadow Veil spell will be in two-ish months in the Tower. It is noticeable though. Or, if I somehow get enough seeds to Item World my shield.
On that note, I have not dropped a single seed outside of The Tower yet.
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Yesterday, 19:27
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namae56709
Group: Members
Posts: 152
Joined: 15-September 17

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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Nov 4 2025, 17:03)  I noticed that now the current Shielding Plates have no base value for Block. Does this mean that the values will be fixed, that is, it will no longer be possible to upgrade it?
Elemental prefixes also have no base value.
Reactive equipment has base value for Block.
And if that's the case, does this mean that after the conversion in Persistent my Shielding Plate will have a fixed value regardless of the current number of upgrades I've already done? For example, I have a Peerless Shielding with 25 upgrade levels for Block; so regardless of that, after the conversion the equipment will have maximum block value?
The strength of prefixes and suffixes is determined by the mean of the equipment's base rolls, so you can improve it with stat fusion. And some seem to scale with player level and some don't. QUOTE(Ramaki @ Nov 4 2025, 17:07)  On that note, I have not dropped a single seed outside of The Tower yet.
I've been collecting drop data in persistent for a while. With maxed scavenger, in 533,204 arena kills I've received 35 amnesia shards, which gives an expected rate of about 1/15,000. They're more common from REs (~1/6,000), but of course that doesn't help you in isekai.
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Yesterday, 20:12
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(SIRIUSs @ Nov 4 2025, 17:58)  Me and Byza can send charms to each other via MM. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's not not intended. They are just regular items, so you can send them unless I decide to make them unsendable. Which I might. QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Nov 4 2025, 18:03)  I noticed that now the current Shielding Plates have no base value for Block. Does this mean that the values will be fixed, that is, it will no longer be possible to upgrade it? Upgrades increase stats derived from prefixes and suffixes just like they increase stats derived from base values, so it would not affect the maximum value of block for a Shielding Plate. QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Nov 4 2025, 18:03)  And if that's the case, does this mean that after the conversion in Persistent my Shielding Plate will have a fixed value regardless of the current number of upgrades I've already done? For example, I have a Peerless Shielding with 25 upgrade levels for Block; so regardless of that, after the conversion the equipment will have maximum block value? All upgrades will contribute towards the general upgrade level, but if you only upgraded that stat, it would (obviously) not max the upgrade level for the whole equipment. ----- PS: I have now processed the stats from last season, so equipment and items and stuff should now all be added to Persistent.
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Yesterday, 21:12
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mirroricecola
Group: Members
Posts: 150
Joined: 15-June 23

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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 5 2025, 02:12)  All upgrades will contribute towards the general upgrade level, but if you only upgraded that stat, it would (obviously) not max the upgrade level for the whole equipment. May I ask again about the conversion method? Or has it already been decided, as mentioned before, the average?
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Yesterday, 21:12
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SIRIUSs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,303
Joined: 13-June 10

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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 5 2025, 02:12)  PS: I have now processed the stats from last season, so equipment and items and stuff should now all be added to Persistent.
Seems like transferred items are missing hash: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/306538141/undefinedUpdate: Fixed. dynjs doesn't have those equip info at the time. This post has been edited by SIRIUSs: Yesterday, 21:24
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Yesterday, 21:21
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SPoison
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,165
Joined: 20-July 10

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I haven't gotten many charms but will void strike still be obtainable? Usually IW turns a weapon to void and adds void strike as well but there is no void charm and lesser voidseeker does not add void strike (which is consistent with how voidseeker works in persistent) thus it seems we lost the ability to get void strike unless our equip is ethereal. QUOTE(SIRIUSs @ Nov 4 2025, 11:12)  Just do something to an equip. Like move it in and out of equipment storage, add an infusion, equip and unequip, etc. and that usually fixes it.
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Yesterday, 21:40
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Basara Nekki
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,822
Joined: 13-September 12

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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 4 2025, 15:12)  Upgrades increase stats derived from prefixes and suffixes just like they increase stats derived from base values, so it would not affect the maximum value of block for a Shielding Plate.
Does this mean that the block will increase during the upgrade process, even if this stat does not appear in the Base Stat Rolls list? QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 4 2025, 15:12)  All upgrades will contribute towards the general upgrade level, but if you only upgraded that stat, it would (obviously) not max the upgrade level for the whole equipment.
What you said I already understood. My concern was that the block in Shielding Plate did not appear in the Base Stat Rolls list, so I thought that this stat would not increase with upgrades and would become a fixed value. In this case, if the value was fixed and since my equipment is a Peerless ( Peerless Shielding Plate Helmet of Protection ), I thought that after the conversion the block value would be maximum regardless of the number of upgrades I had made (while the other stats would be more like half way, since my equipment has 25 out of 50 upgrade levels). Another factor for me to think about this was the fact that the block in Reactive equipment has a base value that appeared in the Base Stat Rolls list. So I thought: I can increase the block through upgrades on a Reactive, but I can no longer do the same on a Shielding.
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Yesterday, 21:54
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(mirroricecola @ Nov 4 2025, 20:12)  May I ask again about the conversion method? Or has it already been decided, as mentioned before, the average Haven't even started. QUOTE(SPoison @ Nov 4 2025, 20:21)  I haven't gotten many charms but will void strike still be obtainable? Usually IW turns a weapon to void and adds void strike as well but there is no void charm and lesser voidseeker does not add void strike (which is consistent with how voidseeker works in persistent) thus it seems we lost the ability to get void strike unless our equip is ethereal. That's just because I forgot to add it to the charm when I merged Hollowforged and Voidseeker. Should be added now. (It does mean that Voidseeker will count as one of the two strike charms you are allowed to have, though.) QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Nov 4 2025, 20:40)  Does this mean that the block will increase during the upgrade process, even if this stat does not appear in the Base Stat Rolls list? That's correct.
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Yesterday, 23:31
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SPoison
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,165
Joined: 20-July 10

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One more question about strikes. A Hallowed weapon has 50% Holy Strike, what does that mean compared to persistent version? The same or worse?
I noticed you can charm a weapon with the same strike to bring that to 80% (lesser) or 100% (greater) depending on the charm, just making sure that's intended.
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Yesterday, 23:34
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(SPoison @ Nov 4 2025, 22:31)  One more question about strikes. A Hallowed weapon has 50% Holy Strike, what does that mean compared to persistent version? The same or worse? The 50% base damage strike on Greater charms is the same as the old strikes on persistent. QUOTE(SPoison @ Nov 4 2025, 22:31)  I noticed you can charm a weapon with the same strike to bring that to 80% (lesser) or 100% (greater) depending on the charm, just making sure that's intended. This is intended.
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Today, 00:20
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BlueWaterSplash
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Joined: 15-March 11

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At level 165, I'm noticeably weaker than I was at level 128. IWBTH was fine for me at 128, but now I have to drop down to Hell. (Now I see why some higher level players are stuck at surprisingly low difficulties).
I think the biggest reason for this is the new accuracy system, and the fact that Block now scales rapidly with level, whereas before Block/PMit/etc scaled very minimally with level. So if you don't soulfuse your shield, you will get less survivable much more rapidly now. (If you do soulfuse your shield, which would be more likely in Persistent at low level, this won't be an issue).
Note that Ramaki has a soulfused Peerless best shield in the game, so his game experience is extremely different from the rest of us. (We are very fortunate to be able to have reports from him).
I don't know how economically viable it is to hotswap Charms out in the current system, which is likely to affect the balance of which melee prefixes are preferred. Being able to put two of the same Charm is also likely to affect the balance.
Is Ethereal able to get two of the same elemental strike and/or double Void Strike?
edit: Ten seconds after I posted this, I have dropped something kind of similar to Ramaki's shield. A billion times worse in value, but still pretty magnificent. Will have to check it out after this arena ends; it might be worth soulfusing immediately. (I told Ramaki earlier that I thought his shield was worth 1 billion credits lol).
This post has been edited by BlueWaterSplash: Today, 01:07
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