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lmao。 but if IW works exactly like tower, then I guess the first 20 levels doesn't really require any good gear?

not exactly as the tower, but like the tower. last rounds could well be extremely hard like very high tower floors - which means: not that hard if you know how to play the game. 20 rounds is way faster that tower, so it's just a matter of surviving.

Some strategies that you could choose:
1. get a shield + use some depr. spells - cheap
2. play dual wield + use a lot of spells - a bit more expensive on mana consumption
3. use mage set with a shield + waki, or just a staff + a shitload of depr. spells
4. use gum/vase and blast through with your mage set - expensive

and if you can't upgrade the block on a legendary shield to max because you don't have fully upgraded gear:
1. upgrade your shield to half-way (like in Iseakai, limited through forge level) - works fine
2. get an exqisite and upgrade it to the max, or a magnificent and upgrade it to as far as you can

I think this update will allow us to actually play the game, use strategies, use different styles. Which is nice.

Can an equipment be attached with multiple identical greater or lesser charms?
If so, do their effects stack up?

It was balanced so you should need roughly the same number of World Seeds to max-IW something as you would need to get the "optimal" set of potencies.
You cannot replay IW levels, so if you wanted to farm IW for charms you would need to soulbind some other random gear. (This is one reason for why you also get them from trophies.)

Guess for poor players like me that means: Get as much IWed equipment as possible until the change hits persistent so I already start with a number of good charms.
So thanks for announcing this early (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

Guess for poor players like me that means: Get as much IWed equipment as possible until the change hits persistent so I already start with a number of good charms.
So thanks for announcing this early (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

I should probably remind you that charms cannot be dismantled back into item form.
This means that once an charms is socketed, it becomes permanently bound to both the equipment and the socket slot. You must destroy it to replace it with another charm.
refer to Tenboro's reply below.

You can remove the charm; this destroys both the charm and the pouch. You can also swap to a different charm; this destroys the old charm but keeps the pouch. Or you can swap the pouch; this destroys the old pouch but keeps the charm.

(Or put more simply, you are free to swap or remove charms or pouches, but you cannot turn them back into items.)

This post has been edited by bfbf1793: Oct 19 2025, 10:38

I should probably remind you that charms cannot be dismantled back into item form.
This means that once an charms is socketed, it becomes permanently bound to both the equipment and the socket slot. You must destroy it to replace it with another charm.
refer to Tenboro's reply below.

Currently I don't even have my main equipment IWed (for various reasons), and not even imagined to do it for my "backup equipment", so still enough to do for me.

Can an equipment be attached with multiple identical greater or lesser charms?
If so, do their effects stack up?

No. You cannot attach duplicate charms, or both the greater and lesser variant of the same charm. There are other restrictions as well, like a maximum of two strike charms.

Is it possible to attach staff-type charms such as Penetrator on a melee weapon?

Is a greater charm gotten from a lvl 4 potency weaker than one from a lvl 5? (and same question from weaker charm).

and if I have gear with 3 potencies that would result in 2 greater charms and 1 weaker one, could it cause issues?

tldr: basically would I get screwed if this gear was 4-4-1 (I know I will in this specific case, with a lesser spellweaver charm)

Is it possible to attach staff-type charms such as Penetrator on a melee weapon?

Yup.

Is a greater charm gotten from a lvl 4 potency weaker than one from a lvl 5? (and same question from weaker charm).

and if I have gear with 3 potencies that would result in 2 greater charms and 1 weaker one, could it cause issues?

tldr: basically would I get screwed if this gear was 4-4-1 (I know I will in this specific case, with a lesser spellweaver charm)

Level 1-3 potencies turn into Lesser Charms, and Level 4-5 potencies turn into Greater Charms.

If you have a 4-4-1, it'd turn into two Greater Charms and one Lesser Charm.

Will Forge Level still be in the new system or is IW level the only prerequisite for upgrading equipment?

Soul fragment requirement could be a major roadblock for brand new players. Perhaps everyone could start with a minimum of x (500? 1k?) when the update goes live.

20 rounds is way faster that tower, so it's just a matter of surviving.

Oh, it's only 20 rounds? I thought it was 20 IW clears and that IW could still be 100 rounds (which becomes harder with each iteration).

This post has been edited by hydoc: Oct 19 2025, 12:51

No. You cannot attach duplicate charms, or both the greater and lesser variant of the same charm. There are other restrictions as well, like a maximum of two strike charms.

Thanks for your answer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
And one more question,will Hath Perks - Dark Descent have a new role in the new system?
Can it be used to reduce the required number of world seeds?

Will Forge Level still be in the new system or is IW level the only prerequisite for upgrading equipment?

Forge Level doesn't currently do anything in the new system. May or may not be reintroduced, but not in its current function.

Oh, it's only 20 rounds? I thought it was 20 IW clears and that IW could still be 100 rounds.

IWs are capped to 20 rounds each.

And one more question,will Hath Perks - Dark Descent have a new role in the new system?
Can it be used to reduce the required number of world seeds?

It doesn't currently do anything, haven't decided whether to refund or repurpose it.

I think this update will allow us to actually play the game, use strategies, use different styles. Which is nice.

If the total rounds is reduced then anyway it sounds nice. Harder to complete reduce the possibility of botting though, which makes it even better. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Great update! It's got me pumped again. Can't wait for it to go live!

Depending on their luck, players may need to enter Item Word dozens of times during the Easter events to get at least one of each unique drop for Snowflake. World Seeds will not auto recover hourly like Stamina, so it could be difficult for casual players to fully participate in the event. One way to address this problem would be to offer players the option to choose the cost of entering Item World. Players would not receive a Charm if they choose Stamina. Alternately, Easter drops could be limited to just Arena and Grindfest. Will we need to save up a large quantity of World Seeds to help Snowflake during Easter?

I think this update will allow us to actually play the game, use strategies, use different styles. Which is nice.

IMHO the point of the game is NOT using different styles because of how unconvinient it is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
And with so many sources of Peerless equipment going for Fusion Legendary to Peerless sounds like a trap (except maybe for most meta staffs).

This post has been edited by Benny-boy: Oct 19 2025, 13:49

When the next Isekai season starts, how will we earn exp? In the past, I would do the level 1 Arena, then do Tower floor 1, and then spam Item Worlds to unlock Arenas. With the upcoming changes to the Item World, this is no longer possible because while Soul Fragments have unlimited supply in the Item Shop, Amnesia Shards/World Seeds do not. Do we try to earn exp from Grindfests, which cost one Stamina upfront to enter? That sounds brutal, but I don't see any other option. If I may be so bold, I would like to offer some suggestions to help alleviate this situation:
-Sell World Seeds with unlimited supply in the Item Shop
-Allow the first few floors of an equipment's Item World to be entered without consuming World Seeds, similar to how the first five levels of equipment Upgrades do not currently require any Bindings
-Remove the one Stamina upfront cost to enter Isekai Grindfests, especially considering Crystals do not drop in Isekai

will allow you to permanently sacrifice a piece of equipment of the same type (slot+template) in order to boost the stats of a different equipment.

f the sacrificed gear has a lower base roll, it will additionally require one or more Cores to improve that stat.

what if the sacrificed gear doesn't have the target stat?

Will the type of equipment used for an IW run/received from shrining affect the charms that can be obtained, e.g. must use a staff to be able to get a penetrator charm?