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post Oct 11 2025, 13:35
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(This post was updated on October 18th 15:00 UTC for the actual announcement.)

tl;dr:
- Legendary+ equipment can be used together with bindings and cores to improve stats on other Legendary+ equipment with the new "Stat Fusion" system.
- Slottable "Charms" replace the old Potency and Enchantment systems; these are tradeable items obtainable from clearing IWs and offering trophies in the Shrine.
- Equipment upgrade are simplified; now use cores and require IW clears, but no longer use bindings.
- Upgrading, IW, Stat Fusion and Charms are only usable on Soulbound equipment. Which among other things means you can no longer use Salvage to refund spent materials or outsource IW leveling to other players.


Charms

Charms replace the old random Potencies you got from the Item World, as well as the temporary boosts you could add with Enchantments.

Every equipment has a number of "Charm Slots", as well as a base number of "Charm Points"; both depend on the quality of the equipment. You can boost the number of Charm Points with upgrades and Item World clears.

Different charms have different point requirements, and come in a "Lesser" and "Greater" variant with different strengths and point requirements.

Charms are consumables, and can be destroyed if you are defeated in battle. They are however protected by a "Pouch", which can be replaced if it's destroyed, or swapped with more durable pouches - and possibly in the future, pouches with other special effects.

Charms can still be obtained by clearing Item Worlds, but are not automatically attached to the cleared equipment. Charms and pouches can also be obtained by offering trophies in The Shrine, and can be traded in The Market.

Old potencies will be converted to charms with a special pouch that makes them indestructible. (These pouches can also be obtained post-patch.) Level 1-3 potencies turn into Lesser Charms, and Level 4-5 potencies turn into Greater Charms.

The old enchantment shards and infusions are used as upkeep materials for the new charms, so you need some of them both to slot those charms and to repair gear that has those charms slotted.


Upgrades / Item World

Upgrades have been simplified from the old system; you no longer upgrade stats individually, and it no longer costs bindings to do so. (These are used for something else; see Stat Fusion below.)

Upgrades both boost the stats of the equipment, and increase the number of Charm Points that determine the power and number of charms you can attach to it.

An equipment's upgrade level is capped to its current Item World level, which is capped by the quality of the equipment. For example, a Legendary equipment has 20 levels of IW, giving it maximum of 20 levels of upgrades.

Item Words are now based on the Tower mechanics, meaning that the difficulty level for each floor is fixed. They also now require World Seeds to initiate. These are just renamed Amnesia Shards with a different usage; "reforging" equipment is no longer a thing.

You will have to soulbind equipment before you can enter its Item World, and by extension, to upgrade it. Which means you will have to do it yourself.


Stat Fusion

Stat Fusion will allow you to permanently sacrifice a piece of equipment of the same type (slot+template) in order to boost the stats of a different equipment.

Stat Fusion has a fixed cost in credits, and will require one or more bindings for every stat that is improved. The cost addtionally depends on the base stat rolls of the two equips; if the sacrificed gear has a lower base roll, it will additionally require one or more Cores to improve that stat.

Legendary gear can be upgraded to Peerless using this mechanism, but the cost for doing do will be substantial; expect on the order of hundreds of millions to fully upgrade a Legendary into a Peerless.

Optionally, and with a number of new and outrageously expensive hath perks that will be added, you will also be able to further increase the stats past that of a base Peerless.

Any sacrificed equipment is permanently destroyed and cannot be recovered. For this and other reasons, soulbound equipment cannot be sacrificed.

Stat Fusion will not be available on Isekai for several reasons; for one, because you cannot get bindings there.


Other Notes

- Rather than being possible to buy back from the equipment store with little consequence, salvaged equipment will no longer be usable unless you repair it using all the items salvaged from it + the regular repair items required for a full repair.

- If you are missing Cores for upgrades or stat fusion, it will allow you spend credits instead. The rates are set at 20 000C per legendary core and 500 000C per peerless core. This is done to cap the prices of these items, to help prevent excessive pressure on salvaging the related equipment.


The update will be deployed with the upcoming Isekai season. It will not be deployed to Persistent for at least a couple of months, both to test the extensive code changes, and to allow time to rebalance various mechanics and finish up the Persistent-Only stuff.

These are just the changes that are expected to affect market pricing of items and equipment, and are therefore being announced in advance to keep things fair.


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Next Saturday, on October 18th at around 15:00 UTC, we will be pre-announcing some upcoming changes to the equipment mechanics. The changes are expected to affect the valuation of things like equipment and materials (non-exhaustive examples), and will therefore be publicly announced before the update enters closed beta, to mitigate the "insider trading" problem.

This post will be updated with the available information at that time. No further hints will be provided.

The update itself is a few days short of feature-complete, and will go live with the next Isekai season, which is tentatively scheduled to start on November 1st, assuming all known game-breaking bugs have been fixed by then; the start of next season will be delayed if this is not the case.

It will be exclusive to Isekai for an extended period while finishing up some Persistent-Only stuff, so there will be plenty of time to prepare for the changes on Persistent.
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post Oct 18 2025, 18:06
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Looks like we have a plenty huge and complicated update here, thanks for the work. I've got many questions in mind but my main concern is that, when the same equipment is carried to the new system, will they behave better or worse, if I don't make any further investment?
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post Oct 18 2025, 18:22
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I'd like to know how "indestructible pouch" would be obtained after the update? Will the "indestructible pouch" be bound to an equip?
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post Oct 18 2025, 18:24
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Let me guess:
The potential of a single piece of equipment is limited. You need to defeat Level 20 IW to unlock its cap. The skill talismans you obtain are random. You can utilize the equipment slots this gear allows—for example, High-Low-Low—to configure your skills. This might be 5P + 3S + 3A. Alternatively, some L-type equipment only has two slots, limiting you to High-Low. For P-type slots, configurations like High-High-Low or even High-High-High might be possible.

I pretty much guessed right about the upgrade mechanics—L gear upgrades to P gear, and P gear upgrades to P+ gear. The only thing I didn't see coming was needing to consume tradable gear of the same quality and name. That's brutal.

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post Oct 18 2025, 18:34
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QUOTE(mewsf @ Oct 18 2025, 18:06) *
but my main concern is that, when the same equipment is carried to the new system, will they behave better or worse, if I don't make any further investment?


Not entirely sure what you are asking, but old equipment will be converted into the new system, and there shouldn't be any significant difference between equipment from before and after the patch. Some really old equipment might have a name you can't get anymore, and some stat rolls on old equipment could be outside of the ranges that are possible on new ones, but that should basically be it.

QUOTE(OnceForAll @ Oct 18 2025, 18:22) *
I'd like to know how "indestructible pouch" would be obtained after the update? Will the "indestructible pouch" be bound to an equip?


You can rarely get them from trophies in the Shrine. They are bound to the specific charm slot, so you can swap the charm and keep the special pouch, but you can't remove it without destroying it.

QUOTE(unitready @ Oct 18 2025, 18:24) *
You can utilize the equipment slots this gear allows—for example, High-Low-Low—to configure your skills. This might be 5P + 3S + 3A


You can use a few greater charms or a bunch of lesser charms, anyway. Though the exact number of points the different charms take will be adjusted after the initial release.
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post Oct 18 2025, 18:35
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For poor players, judging from the current update announcement, seems like there are only three points worth noting:
1. To increase Charm Points and Upgrade, you can only use soulfused gears to clear their IWs first;
2. To equip Charms, you can only soulfuse the corresponding gears first;
3. Charm can be purchased from the market.

Not sure if this summary is enough.
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post Oct 18 2025, 18:41
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I think I missed what will happen to the current forge upgrades on the equipment when they are converted. Are we getting bindings back or something else?
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post Oct 18 2025, 18:50
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The new IW system works as follows: IW unlocks equipment enhancement caps and enables combat drop skills (which are encapsulated in skill slots). Encapsulated skills can be traded on the market.
Upgrading fills the equipment's enhancement cap, allowing you to freely arrange and combine skills within the fixed skill slot/point limit after unlocking the gear.
Skill slots possess special effects, such as protecting skills from destruction or other potential future enhancements;
Replacing a skill slot will destroy the original one, meaning skills cannot exist outside their container;
That's my general understanding.
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post Oct 18 2025, 18:51
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^Also curious how old upgrades will be handled. I hope there's some sort of grandfathering, especially for the rental shop.

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Oct 11 2025, 11:35) *
You will have to soulbind equipment before you can enter its Item World, and by extension, to upgrade it.
Three potential issues:
1. It will be even harder for new players to get decent gear of their own. Add in equipment cannibalization and it might be extremely difficult for anyone to build a new gear set (such as transitioning to mage).
2. The rental shop will no longer be able to add iw'd/upgraded equipment. This is hugely impactful with weapons (void) and shields (block) in particular. "Forgetful" soulbindings will be even more tempting to renters, and stock may dwindle past the point where the rental shop can continue to operate effectively.
3. Isekai will become even more expensive. 250k for each soulbound equipment that you later replace: probably once or twice per weapon/shield, since you need parry/block and can't replace those with enchantments.

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post Oct 18 2025, 19:06
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meaningless question

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Is the number of bindings needed going to be adjusted to keep the market price about the same, or is the value going to be allowed to crash?

Some players have 100M+ worth of bindings from Monster Lab.
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post Oct 18 2025, 19:09
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I have some questions about Stat Fusion

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permanently sacrifice a piece of equipment of the same type (slot+template)

To enhance a Legendary Radiant Phase Robe of Heimdall, do I need another LRPRH of the same name, or is Robe + Phase sufficient?

2. To fully enhance a piece of equipment, do I just need to sacrifice one piece of the same equipment, or do I need lots of pieces?

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Optionally, and with a number of new and outrageously expensive hath perks that will be added, you will also be able to further increase the stats past that of a base Peerless.

Peerless equipment can be enhanced to a basic level, and the Hath Perks increases the level cap.
Is this correct?

4. Can Peerless equipment only be enhanced by sacrificing another Peerless equipment?
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post Oct 18 2025, 19:16
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QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Oct 18 2025, 18:41) *
I think I missed what will happen to the current forge upgrades on the equipment when they are converted. Are we getting bindings back or something else?


I didn't math it out yet, but the old upgrade levels and potency tier will convert to upgrade levels and item world levels in the new system. You save the cores, so you don't get a refund for the bindings, but if you rather want the bindings, you have the option to salvage it for a refund before the update goes to Persistent.

QUOTE(hydoc @ Oct 18 2025, 18:51) *
3. Isekai will become even more expensive. 250k for each soulbound equipment that you later replace: probably once or twice per weapon/shield, since you need parry/block and can't replace those with enchantments.


Could be it will be made cheaper on Isekai, will consider it.

QUOTE(sssss2 @ Oct 18 2025, 19:09) *
To enhance a Legendary Radiant Phase Robe of Heimdall, do I need another LRPRH of the same name, or is Robe + Phase sufficient?


Legendary or Peerless Robe + Phase is sufficient.

QUOTE(sssss2 @ Oct 18 2025, 19:09) *
2. To fully enhance a piece of equipment, do I just need to sacrifice one piece of the same equipment, or do I need lots of pieces?


Every fusion can increase a base stat by +1 or +2 based on some factors that aren't quite nailed down yet. The Peerless cap is 200, and Legendary rolls from 170-200, so unless you had very lucky rolls, you would need quite a few.

QUOTE(sssss2 @ Oct 18 2025, 19:09) *
3. Peerless equipment can be enhanced to a basic level, and the Hath Perks increases the level cap.


The plan is that everyone can max a Legendary and turn it into a Peerless, but with the hath perks you can keep increasing it, yeah.

QUOTE(sssss2 @ Oct 18 2025, 19:09) *
4. Can Peerless equipment only be enhanced by sacrificing another Peerless equipment?


No, but you would need a core for every stat if it's not, since the Legendary gear would have lower rolls on everything.
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post Oct 18 2025, 19:35
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I have two questions about Charms.

1. How many charms can be placed in a Pouch?

2. How many Pouches can a piece of equipment hold?
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post Oct 18 2025, 19:46
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Thank you Tenboro.
Now I can understand it a little bit.

- I would need to buy lots of Oak Staves to turn LHOH into PHOH.
- Without the new hathperks, Peerless itself is the final grade of the gear, so PDWD I have now doesn't need any Stat Fusion enhancements.
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post Oct 18 2025, 19:47
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QUOTE(Anemone @ Oct 18 2025, 19:35) *
1. How many charms can be placed in a Pouch?

2. How many Pouches can a piece of equipment hold?


One charm + pouch per slot. All charms come with a free basic pouch.
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Tenboro please! What's going to happen to my boy?? Crude Plate Sabatons of the Fire-eater My beautiful boy! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


QUOTE(Tenboro @ Oct 11 2025, 04:35) *

Any sacrificed equipment is permanently destroyed and cannot be recovered. For this and other reasons, soulbound equipment cannot be sacrificed.


About this, let's say I am stat fusing a LHOH and in the lottery I win a PFOF, because the PFOF is soulbound will I not be able to use it to sacrifice in a stat fusion? Basically all I can do is salvage it for it's core?
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From a quick glance at it, I have the feeling, reaching tower floor 50 in next season will be harder than in the current season, but I guess I'll have to wait and see.

Not really relevant for me, bit I'd still like to know:
If you upgrade one Legendary item to Peerless, can you then continue to upgrade it so it's maximum strength is as high as if the piece was Peerless to begin with or will it cap earlier because it started lower? (I.e. will there be a difference between an completely maxed Legendary x of y and a completely maxed Peerless x of y?)
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Thank you for your reply.
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Oct 11 2025, 19:35) *

Old potencies will be converted to charms with a special pouch that makes them indestructible.


One more question: Can the special pouch be equipped on another piece of equipment?
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post Oct 18 2025, 20:26
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Oct 18 2025, 20:04) *
Tenboro please! What's going to happen to my boy?? Crude Plate Sabatons of the Fire-eater My beautiful boy! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


Should convert just fine, as far as I can tell. Crude equipment won't normally have 7 charm slots, but they can still get 7 charms when converting.

QUOTE(SPoison @ Oct 18 2025, 20:04) *
About this, let's say I am stat fusing a LHOH and in the lottery I win a PFOF, because the PFOF is soulbound will I not be able to use it to sacrifice in a stat fusion? Basically all I can do is salvage it for it's core?


The plan is to not allow salvaging or fusing soulbound gear, but this is more to stop people from accidentally doing so than out of some sort of balance concern. I wouldn't think it will come up a lot seeing as salvaging gear doesn't refund materials anymore, but it's also not something I feel strongly about if most people don't want that safeguard.

QUOTE(Nicosai @ Oct 18 2025, 20:06) *
If you upgrade one Legendary item to Peerless, can you then continue to upgrade it so it's maximum strength is as high as if the piece was Peerless to begin with or will it cap earlier because it started lower? (I.e. will there be a difference between an completely maxed Legendary x of y and a completely maxed Peerless x of y?)


Legendary gear just turns into Peerless when all base rolls reach 200.

QUOTE(Anemone @ Oct 18 2025, 20:14) *
One more question: Can the special pouch be equipped on another piece of equipment?


Charms and pouches cannot be moved from the equipment/slot they are attached to.
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