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Jul 26 2025, 09:08
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dashieswings
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QUOTE(Necromusume @ Jul 25 2025, 21:28)  A good VPN is €5 per month. If you aren't willing to spend even €5 per month fighting back, maybe it doesn't mean very much to you.
or i just find a free one
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Jul 26 2025, 09:17
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Necromusume
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If it's free, you are the product.
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Jul 26 2025, 12:37
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version365
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So you're saying, the paying ones don't make you the product? That's pretty naive!
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Jul 26 2025, 15:09
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StrongARM
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Jul 26 2025, 15:24
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archives4days
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It's pretty annoying when you can't post stuff over here for ease of access, also for face verification stuff I've heard people have apparently used Death Stranding 2's Sam selifes to bypass it so it's pretty obvious whatever "security" they had in mind is rubbish
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Jul 26 2025, 16:10
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sunandsea
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QUOTE(Shank @ Jul 25 2025, 10:23)  Users would need to upload actual ID or a photograph of their face to comply with the law, which I'm sure you can see isn't gonna happen. Better to contact your local MP to complain [ www.parliament.uk] https://www.parliament.uk/get-involved/cont...ontact-your-mp/ And maybe consider signing the petition [ petition.parliament.uk] https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903Guys, freedom are either defended or lost, don't be lazy and defeatist, please do bother to contact your MP and sign the petition.
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Jul 26 2025, 17:01
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thehappyphilosopher
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Guys, sorry if I sound negative. are we also able to get through the upcoming EU regulation law? Feel kinda worried for our future. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) This post has been edited by thehappyphilosopher: Jul 26 2025, 17:04
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Jul 26 2025, 17:05
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version365
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What's stopping the kids to grab their parents' id card when they are not looking and using that for verification?
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Jul 26 2025, 17:12
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StrongARM
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QUOTE(version365 @ Jul 26 2025, 23:05)  What's stopping the kids to grab their parents' id card when they are not looking and using that for verification?
Facial recognition.
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Jul 26 2025, 17:12
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Jo.To
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imagine this but the US instead of the UK (already happening state-wide like p0rnhub, xvideos, etc.)
oh the sheer chaos...
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Jul 27 2025, 00:45
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dashieswings
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Found free vpn called proton vpn, has a free tier which stays free, just doesn’t allow you to select which country
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Jul 27 2025, 12:03
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DarkNemesis
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Never ever gonna hand my id to some third party or governmental age verification service/app after that huge leak which happened to the tea app and you shouldn't too. Just can't trust them to treat your private information safely and with care. In case this becomes law in the EU as well I'm totally prepared to circumwent any kind of censorship with both Tor and VPN's so good luck (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . This post has been edited by DarkNemesis: Jul 27 2025, 12:05
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Jul 27 2025, 14:20
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Shank
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If you guys need some arguments to give to your MP:
Sites that aren't legal to begin with won't care about the law, so those that can't/won't submit id will end up using them to get what they want, increasing chance of trojans for id theft, bank theft, blackmail, etc.
Can't really argue that teenagers won't seek out such sites, because if they weren't looking for it to begin with, they'd not need this bill.
Teenagers that were looking for porn that somehow can't figure out how to circumvent it and don't have their urges/curiosity met will just increase the amount of underage sex, and worse, pedophiles will use the law as leverage to take advantage of them.
There's a significant risk of data leakage, even large corporations that have the financial means to have the most rigorous of security still get data breaches. See also point on blackmail, bank theft, and id theft for fraud.
Undue financial burden on webmasters to meet the demands, in particular those that are just hosting websites out of hobby out of their own pocket. This is particularly the case when the moment they are required to see your ID, they also have to deal with GDPR on top of that.
With how easy it is to circumvent, the bill generally doesn't achieve anything it sets out to do, but brings plenty of harm as a consequence.
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Jul 27 2025, 14:45
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I mean, there's literally a 100% chance that sites will start collecting and storing IDs to use for illegal purposes under the guise of being "legally required" to collect them, if they haven't started doing so already. They could even pretend to use a recognized 3rd party verifier that looks just like the real thing but that actually redirects you to www.someverifierpeoplehaveheardabout.com.maliciousdatagatheringsite.to
So, yeah. Might want to reconsider doing that unless you want to be doxxed, have loans taken out in your name, or have the local equivalent of the FBI raid you for having KYC'ed for buying crypto that was then used directly to buy drugs or child porn on the dark web.
Not that I have any idea why anyone would even consider providing a scan of their ID when it's so easy to "move" somewhere that doesn't require it.
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Jul 27 2025, 16:33
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boredperson
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QUOTE(dashieswings @ Jul 25 2025, 20:45)  petition does nothing, if there is a bypass just upload it somewhere here so people can see what to do, ain't paying for a VPN, at that point would just find another site which still works
I hate this mentality so much. If there's something detrimental happening and you have a means of getting your voice heard then you put it out there. I've spent the day hopping between sites gathering information so I can send it to my MP with a detailed account of how this fails its aims and endangers the nature of the internet going forwards. The worst that happens by signing a petition is it fails and nothing happens the best is that it actually achieves something. If you don't sign then absolutely nothing will happen. Considering how many others share that idea of not signing, it's damn well enough to make a difference.
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Jul 27 2025, 22:32
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I ask this out off both pure ignorance and fear, but if the absolute worst case scenario happens and all countries and states start using invasive age verification which would render VPN's useless (i believe). Would that just be the end of this site? The world seems to be slowly encroaching on this.
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Jul 27 2025, 22:46
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QUOTE(ryuzakil @ Jul 27 2025, 22:32)  I ask this out off both pure ignorance and fear, but if the absolute worst case scenario happens and all countries and states start using invasive age verification which would render VPN's useless (i believe). Would that just be the end of this site? You mean assuming nothing else ends it before that happens? Depends on the actual laws. The UK and the EU approaches are very different, for one. The UK approach is a Swiss cheese that's also rotten to the core, and I have no intention of supporting it since it's fundamentally broken. The EU one actually seems to be somewhat thought-through, since it's based on single-use anonymous tokens, which means for one it's not pointless since you can't fake it with the photo mode in Death Stranding, but more importantly, it can't leak people's private information. So unless they try to moral-gate or charge for access to the token verification mechanism itself, I don't have any particular qualms with adding support for it. But it's unlikely that every country would add such rules. Even in Europe, non-EU countries like Switzerland, Iceland and Norway wouldn't be a part of the EU laws in the first place, so unless they add them independently, there are still safe harbors.
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Jul 27 2025, 23:21
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ryuzakil
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 27 2025, 13:46)  You mean assuming nothing else ends it before that happens? Depends on the actual laws. The UK and the EU approaches are very different, for one. The UK approach is a Swiss cheese that's also rotten to the core, and I have no intention of supporting it since it's fundamentally broken. The EU one actually seems to be somewhat thought-through, since it's based on single-use anonymous tokens, which means for one it's not pointless since you can't fake it with the photo mode in Death Stranding, but more importantly, it can't leak people's private information. So unless they try to moral-gate or charge for access to the token verification mechanism itself, I don't have any particular qualms with adding support for it.
But it's unlikely that every country would add such rules. Even in Europe, non-EU countries like Switzerland, Iceland and Norway wouldn't be a part of the EU laws in the first place, so unless they add them independently, there are still safe harbors.
Thank you for the well thought out reply and bringingsome light to my darkned mindset.. And I do wholeheartedly agree on your stance as well.
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Jul 28 2025, 18:25
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thehappyphilosopher
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 27 2025, 16:46)  You mean assuming nothing else ends it before that happens? Depends on the actual laws. The UK and the EU approaches are very different, for one. The UK approach is a Swiss cheese that's also rotten to the core, and I have no intention of supporting it since it's fundamentally broken. The EU one actually seems to be somewhat thought-through, since it's based on single-use anonymous tokens, which means for one it's not pointless since you can't fake it with the photo mode in Death Stranding, but more importantly, it can't leak people's private information. So unless they try to moral-gate or charge for access to the token verification mechanism itself, I don't have any particular qualms with adding support for it.
But it's unlikely that every country would add such rules. Even in Europe, non-EU countries like Switzerland, Iceland and Norway wouldn't be a part of the EU laws in the first place, so unless they add them independently, there are still safe harbors.
Thank you so much! Had the exact same worry as the guy who asked. Stand with this place (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 28 2025, 19:42
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jul 27 2025, 22:46)  You mean assuming nothing else ends it before that happens? Depends on the actual laws. The UK and the EU approaches are very different, for one. The UK approach is a Swiss cheese that's also rotten to the core, and I have no intention of supporting it since it's fundamentally broken. The EU one actually seems to be somewhat thought-through, since it's based on single-use anonymous tokens, which means for one it's not pointless since you can't fake it with the photo mode in Death Stranding, but more importantly, it can't leak people's private information. So unless they try to moral-gate or charge for access to the token verification mechanism itself, I don't have any particular qualms with adding support for it.
But it's unlikely that every country would add such rules. Even in Europe, non-EU countries like Switzerland, Iceland and Norway wouldn't be a part of the EU laws in the first place, so unless they add them independently, there are still safe harbors.
regarding whatever the EU has cooked up in this matter, will it lead to e-hentai blocking acces from users in, lets say, austria aswell in the near future ? iirc somewhere i read that accessing e-hentai via a VPN could reslut in a ban for some reason (something like the vpn location/ connection was used before by someone else to ddos the site or mass DL stuff and is therefore being blocked/banned,. . . idk) is that true ? sorry, i have little to no idea how this stuff works since i am a tech illiterate =( This post has been edited by Sirnotalot: Jul 28 2025, 19:45
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