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What's going on with gallery thumbnails?, They're not loading in Firefox but do load in Chrome and Edge. |
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Nov 4 2024, 18:57
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Marien
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I see there's been a few threads about thumbnails not loading already, but none of the solutions apply to me. One suggested fix was to use a VPN (as if we all have that luxury), while another said to change the thumbnail size to small. Changing the thumbnail size does nothing, and if it were Network/VPN related, why would they be loading in one browser but not the other? I use an old version of Firefox almost exclusively for this site, because it's the only version where all my scripts still work. Also, it's not all thumbnails that aren't loading, sometimes it's only a few, but right now, I'm having an issue with the whole first page. Pretty much anything that was uploaded after midnight on 11/04 isn't loading.
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Nov 4 2024, 18:59
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-terry-
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Oct 31 2024, 19:28)  Very old browsers that don't support WebP won't work with galleries that use v2 image handling, and need to be updated. For the major browsers, this would be Chrome before 2014, Firefox before 2019, and Safari before 2020. This is a known tradeoff which will not be addressed on our end.
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Nov 4 2024, 19:08
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Marien
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Are you telling me gallery thumbnails are now using the dreaded .webp file format? Nobody uses that for anything. Nine times out of ten, if you download an image from the internet, including gallery archives from this site, and it's a .webp, something's wrong.
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Nov 4 2024, 21:11
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Joshex
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QUOTE(Marien @ Nov 4 2024, 11:57)  I see there's been a few threads about thumbnails not loading already, but none of the solutions apply to me. One suggested fix was to use a VPN (as if we all have that luxury), while another said to change the thumbnail size to small. Changing the thumbnail size does nothing, and if it were Network/VPN related, why would they be loading in one browser but not the other? I use an old version of Firefox almost exclusively for this site, because it's the only version where all my scripts still work. Also, it's not all thumbnails that aren't loading, sometimes it's only a few, but right now, I'm having an issue with the whole first page. Pretty much anything that was uploaded after midnight on 11/04 isn't loading.
same for me, only none of the images are loading. not just thumbnails. they are all dead, broken. also noticed a spyserver lurking on the site, "Hosted-by-WorldStream", I say spyserver, because just loading the main page cause my computer's fan to turn on in overdrive, thats a hallmark of a spyserver attacking your browser and raping your hardware to collect browser and other data. theres a chance I'm blocking the image host, but I doubt it, I went down my firewall rules and turned each off one at a time, the images in galleries still would not reload correctly just a broken icon. maybe I'm over-reacting maybe the site devs are having hosting issues? are all the image servers down for routine updates? Confirmed Some images load others do not. it's a webp issue. some galleries images are being displayed as webp at default. if not then: Do not be an update marcher. we have enough sites forcing everyone to jump through hoops and permit spyware to rape computers jsut so we can view their content. I use an old browser here as well. also browser devs put in bricks for windows 7 users so their newest installers wont run on windows 7. so.. forcing an update-march targets win 7 users. I have never seen such hostility directed towards a perfectly good stable OS in all of computer history! I have never seen such rabid discontinuance of support as I've seen directed against windows 7. this should be raising a flag in everyone's mind. "why do they want us on windows 10+ so badly?" it smells rotten. something must be terribly wrong with newer OSes and browsers. that or someone is making a shit ton of money off everyone being forced to use Their dynamic content methods(google). never thought this site would bite the dust. never thought I'd come on and all the images would be broken icons. big brother and the update nazis don't like hentai, they think it's all illegal or should be illegal. not the kinda group I'd cater a hentai site to if I were smart. "WebP is a modern image format developed by Google that aims to provide high-quality images with significantly smaller file sizes compared to traditional formats like JPEG and PNG. It supports both lossy and lossless compression, allowing users to choose between maintaining image quality or reducing file size, making it ideal for improving website performance and loading times." oh it's google shit. do not support google. google is the worst evil on the internet. Perhaps a fix to this would be a browser extension for older browsers which can understand and read the webp format. this would be a very helpful thing to fight google's rabid update march. This post has been edited by Joshex: Nov 4 2024, 21:28
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Nov 4 2024, 21:52
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Scumbini
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QUOTE(Joshex @ Nov 4 2024, 20:11)  I use an old browser here as well. also browser devs put in bricks for windows 7 users so their newest installers wont run on windows 7. so.. forcing an update-march targets win 7 users. I have never seen such hostility directed towards a perfectly good stable OS in all of computer history! I have never seen such rabid discontinuance of support as I've seen directed against windows 7. this should be raising a flag in everyone's mind. "why do they want us on windows 10+ so badly?" it smells rotten. something must be terribly wrong with newer OSes and browsers. that or someone is making a shit ton of money off everyone being forced to use Their dynamic content methods(google).
Install some flavor of Linux (if you're a noob, go for Mint) instead of using a very EOL OS that also phones home, though not to the degree that Win 10+ does, and you can use an actual up-to-date browser without worrying about things "raping your hardware."
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Nov 5 2024, 03:44
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mugener
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QUOTE(Scumbini @ Nov 5 2024, 03:52)  you can use an actual up-to-date browser without worrying about things "raping your hardware."
If e-hentai staff really intend to force all visitors to update their browser, then please admit it publicly on site's news or frontpage. So that some old browser users like me can give up the false hope that maybe one day old gallery will come back for us as lo-fi. .
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Nov 5 2024, 03:50
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Shank
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It tells you on the news page you need to update if you are using old software
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Nov 5 2024, 03:56
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If you insist on using Windows 7 and don't want to use Chrome, Firefox 115 ESR does support it.
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Nov 5 2024, 04:12
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bobomaster
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even that i have no problem viewing .webp, i never like it
is there anyway to undo this, i had to do extra steps to convert them after download, which is a pain in the arse
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Nov 5 2024, 04:19
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Scumbini
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QUOTE(mugener @ Nov 5 2024, 03:44)  If e-hentai staff really intend to force all visitors to update their browser, then please admit it publicly on site's news or frontpage.
So that some old browser users like me can give up the false hope that maybe one day old gallery will come back for us as lo-fi.
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Why are you purposely using what is presumably a security hole riddled nightmare? Even Pale Moon supports WebP. QUOTE(bobomaster @ Nov 5 2024, 04:12)  is there anyway to undo this, i had to do extra steps to convert them after download, which is a pain in the arse
Download the originals instead of the resamples.
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Nov 5 2024, 04:33
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bobomaster
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QUOTE(Scumbini @ Nov 5 2024, 10:19)  Download the originals instead of the resamples.
assuming i got a lot GPs, i still need to convert them to smaller size after download also IF you dont have better solution OR you dont care, please dont reply to this.
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Nov 5 2024, 04:48
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Cipher-kun
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QUOTE(Scumbini @ Nov 5 2024, 02:19)  Download the originals instead of the resamples.
Original images can now be in webp too, so... that might not fix it. Just use semi-modern software. We're talking 2019 here for firefox... Also on this note, if you're not keeping a browser up to date you're in for some bad times. There has been a lot of 0 days in browsers in the last 5 years. QUOTE(bobomaster @ Nov 5 2024, 02:33)  also IF you dont have better solution OR you dont care, please dont reply to this.
Time marches onwards, software needs to be updated. This post has been edited by Cipher-kun: Nov 5 2024, 04:50
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Nov 5 2024, 04:59
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-terry-
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webp is vastly superior to the ancient jpg format, offering better quality at lower file sizes, transparency support, lossless encoding and animated images. All major browsers have supported it for over 4 years now. If you're using a Browser, or an OS that can't support software that's under 4 years old anymore, its time to upgrade (Linux distros exist) If for some reason you do want worse quality at higher file sizes, converting images is as easy as using libwebp (dwebp input.webp -o output.jpg) Ask ChatGPT to automate it in a batch script if you're on Windows. see attachment for resampled jpg (445.2 KiB) vs webp (243.1 KiB) This post has been edited by -terry-: Nov 5 2024, 05:21
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Nov 5 2024, 05:08
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bobomaster
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QUOTE(Cipher-kun @ Nov 5 2024, 10:48)  Original images can now be in webp too, so... that might not fix it. Just use semi-modern software. We're talking 2019 here for firefox...
Also on this note, if you're not keeping a browser up to date you're in for some bad times. There has been a lot of 0 days in browsers in the last 5 years. Time marches onwards, software needs to be updated.
That is not a solution... webp is annoying to view and not very stable, not only in old os but new os too, you can go for modern tech which is fine though you gotta know that webp is just google's own selfish thing, jpg/jpeg/png works greatly, why cant we keep those
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Nov 5 2024, 05:26
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Marien
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OH GODDAMNIT! It's not just thumbnails, but gallery images are .webp now too? WTF? That is just plain shitty. How many measly kilobytes of data could trying to streamline webp possibly save in bandwidth? Abandoning the most tried and true, widely compatible file format for this wannabe new era garbage is not an upgrade by any stretch of the imagination. I expect this type of forced obsolescence from tech companies, not a hentai site.
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Nov 5 2024, 05:33
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kingofptw
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As someone who pulls out gallery images sometimes to use as references or to open in an editing program, this is fairly annoying. I can however understand the pros in terms of file size.
Thankfully Clip Studio Paint has added webp support in 3.0, which is just a conversion to a format it can work with. For other software like old versions of Photoshop, no dice. And I won't update that software as new versions of Photoshop are subscription only.
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Nov 5 2024, 05:38
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mugener
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QUOTE(Scumbini @ Nov 5 2024, 10:19)  Why are you purposely using what is presumably a security hole riddled nightmare?
For some script such as show thumbnails from right to left since most arts are japan manga on this site. Not to be rude, but webp and this new gallery update are even more "nightmare" for me than old browser. . This post has been edited by mugener: Nov 5 2024, 05:41
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Nov 5 2024, 08:42
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Twinkel
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Sorry to disappoint the "just update dude" crowd, but I'm on windows 10, latest update of chrome, 50mbps down, and I still get the gallery loading issue. if I refresh it does load in, but if that's the actual reason, I shouldn't be getting this issue to begin with. may not even have anything to do with webp, I'd actually suspect the recent website updates first, especially since a portion of the website is completely inaccessible (see the other thread.)
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Nov 5 2024, 12:17
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Cipher-kun
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QUOTE(Twinkel @ Nov 5 2024, 06:42)  Sorry to disappoint the "just update dude" crowd, but I'm on windows 10, latest update of chrome, 50mbps down, and I still get the gallery loading issue. if I refresh it does load in, but if that's the actual reason, I shouldn't be getting this issue to begin with. may not even have anything to do with webp, I'd actually suspect the recent website updates first, especially since a portion of the website is completely inaccessible (see the other thread.)
The issue for OP was a browser that didn't support webp. The other issue was a server offline issue which is resolved now. Your problem is not the same as OPs, or other people who don't support webp.
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Nov 5 2024, 14:03
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Mags_
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This could be helpful. It has been for me. [ ezgif.com] Convert WebP to PNG / APNGIt does lots of other stuff too.
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