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most people never knew better systems. they were born with windows and continue to live with this brand.
i had to speak to a student from some crap university where kids are being told "programming"... NONE of them were using linux\BSD systems, in a fucking uni
just think about it, ipad was released in 2010, and there are people who never had a personal computer at home.

it's pretty clear the "age of PCs" at home lasted for a few years and now has returned to a more expert/dedicated people that knows the difference.

In my opinion.. Uni without even a single Linux\BSD machine is like teaching history without Africa, if you get what I mean.

* all extremely valid points *

Well I understand most of those, consider much of the same reasoning made me ditch windows completely, some years ago.
Several games got to work fairly better, on same hardware, under Linux with wine.
After so much practice is unnatural to me to worry about some aspect of Windows as an OS, and I need to be explicitly told how the problem comes from.

Also, I don't really follow the excuse of "I'm used to windows I wouldn't know how to fix some issues" because.. can't tell most of those people, but they usually won't fix that anything on windows either, beside crying out loud "HEEEELP" to your "techie friend".

Also, I don't really follow the excuse of "I'm used to windows I wouldn't know how to fix some issues" because.. can't tell most of those people, but they usually won't fix that anything on windows either, beside crying out loud "HEEEELP" to your "techie friend".

This and similar complaints are the dumbest thing, because the way anyone fixes things on either is by googling the problem, and the main difference is that on Linux you get some Arch Wiki/Stackexchange/reddit post that hand holds you through the exact steps needed to fix it, where as with Windows you get some Microsoft support article from 3 years ago where a "brand ambassador" asks if OP tried rebooting, they reply by saying they tried and it didn't work and that's the last post of the thread.

Anyway with the gaming usage of PC strongly polarizes people, my mind suggests me: if that specific kind of gaming really is important to you, why "waste" a whole PC for gaming, when you can go to the console market?
It is really a dumb question, my last console I possessed was a Nintendo NES.

Whenever I'm not too tired and in the mood of playing game, I believe I played more hentai or casual Japanese game than commercial non hentai games, so yeah that option is not for me.
I need tools to capture the text and translate the text.
And using phone camera to translate the text every few seconds is not that fun.

Anyway whenever I have PC problem, I also find it a bit fun trying to fix it or customize it to my preferences.
That's why I still love Windows 7 more than 10.
I just recently installed Windows 10 in another PC, well... it IS still shit in some aspect.
Tried to change or fix some stuff, and the info either doesn't work or just plain useless/harmful.
I don't know if it's AI writing those stuff or retards trying to promote certain commercial software.

Whenever I'm not too tired and in the mood of playing game, I believe I played more hentai or casual Japanese game than commercial non hentai games, so yeah that option is not for me.
I need tools to capture the text and translate the text.
And using phone camera to translate the text every few seconds is not that fun.

To the point of becoming obnoxious: why you still on windows?
being able to capture/redirect/parse output (even video output) is part of Linux nature.

I know the tools might not be in the right place out of the box, they might require some tech work, but at least your underneath system supports your needs.

also sandboxing is totally easier and playing Japanese titles in wine doesn't require to fuck up the locale at system wide.

Linux gaming has gotten a lot better in recent years thanks to proton, but there's still the additional layer of hassle that I personally would rather not deal with and understand why others don't either.

Any time you have a problem, it's a question of whether it's an issue with the game, or your computer, or drivers, or the distro, or an update, or the emulation, or some combination of the above. You can try gogling but because there are so many fewer gamers on linux, and even fewer with your distro and even fewer with your distro and hardware and particular version of software, it's next to impossible to find anyone in the same exact situation. Or even be certain whether the problem is on your end or caused by a faulty update or a bug in the game.

When you have a problem running a Windows game on Windows you can be 99% sure the problem is with the game and googling the issue you find other people with the same problem and a likely fix. With Linux you're on your own, and that sort of trial-and-error tinkering when you just want to relax and play a game sucks big time.

Linux gaming has gotten a lot better in recent years thanks to proton, but there's still the additional layer of hassle that I personally would rather not deal with and understand why others don't either.

Any time you have a problem, it's a question of whether it's an issue with the game, or your computer, or drivers, or the distro, or an update, or the emulation, or some combination of the above. You can try gogling but because there are so many fewer gamers on linux, and even fewer with your distro and even fewer with your distro and hardware and particular version of software, it's next to impossible to find anyone in the same exact situation. Or even be certain whether the problem is on your end or caused by a faulty update or a bug in the game.

When you have a problem running a Windows game on Windows you can be 99% sure the problem is with the game and googling the issue you find other people with the same problem and a likely fix. With Linux you're on your own, and that sort of trial-and-error tinkering when you just want to relax and play a game sucks big time.

Yeah, I can't explain it better than that.
Thank you.

Linux gaming has gotten a lot better in recent years thanks to proton, but there's still the additional layer of hassle that I personally would rather not deal with and understand why others don't either.

Any time you have a problem, it's a question of whether it's an issue with the game, or your computer, or drivers, or the distro, or an update, or the emulation, or some combination of the above. You can try gogling but because there are so many fewer gamers on linux, and even fewer with your distro and even fewer with your distro and hardware and particular version of software, it's next to impossible to find anyone in the same exact situation. Or even be certain whether the problem is on your end or caused by a faulty update or a bug in the game.

When you have a problem running a Windows game on Windows you can be 99% sure the problem is with the game and googling the issue you find other people with the same problem and a likely fix. With Linux you're on your own, and that sort of trial-and-error tinkering when you just want to relax and play a game sucks big time.

it's equally likely to be a driver issue in windows
and sometimes actually more likely. intel integrated drivers in linux were rock solid compared to the windows ones for a while
especially if your hardware wasn't released three days ago, it's usually pretty dependable in my experience in linux

This post has been edited by Moonlight Rambler: Oct 30 2024, 00:27

it's equally likely to be a driver issue in windows
and sometimes actually more likely. intel integrated drivers in linux were rock solid compared to the windows ones for a while
especially if your hardware wasn't released three days ago, it's usually pretty dependable in my experience in linux

I don't buy AMD products so I have literally not had a single driver issue (on Windows) since like 2003.

Aside from that one time I did buy an AMD product, immediately had an issue, found out that the solution was "follow this google spreadsheet to know which set of drivers to install for which game" and so instead of doing that I unplugged the card, drove back to the store, asked for my money back and bought a new nvidia card. That has since functioned flawlessly with whatever drivers happened to be the most recent ones when I installed it and zero updates. Just like the nvidia card before it. And the one before that.

e. To be fair, I have not had to deal with drivers on my latest Linux install either. But it's more the paranoia and the much wider spectrum of possible problems you might be dealing with when you know you're "not using the game right".

This post has been edited by kotitonttu: Oct 30 2024, 00:38

it's equally likely to be a driver issue in windows
and sometimes actually more likely. intel integrated drivers in linux were rock solid compared to the windows ones for a while
especially if your hardware wasn't released three days ago, it's usually pretty dependable in my experience in linux

Btw in my case, I rarely play new game on release date.
And I'm talking about my experiences with Windows 7 or older.

From what I experienced and read, Windows 10 and 11 might be way less stable.
Just recently, after few days not using the Windows 10 PC, I find out the Windows 10 PC already undo the changes or delete my setting.
Jesus, I really don't want Windows 10 (or 11) as my main PC OS.

From what I experienced and read, Windows 10 and 11 might be way less stable.
Just recently, after few days not using the Windows 10 PC, I find out the Windows 10 PC already undo the changes or delete my setting.
Jesus, I really don't want Windows 10 (or 11) as my main PC OS.

If you end up needing to switch to 10 or 11 using a tool like [www.oo-software.com] https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 and the IoT LTSC edition helps out a lot. There's an Enterprise LTSC edition of both 10 and 11, and IoT just means it comes without MS store and a bunch of the bloat apps.

[rentry.org] https://rentry.org/windowsinstallguide I know this looks like a bog standard beginner's guide, but if you scroll down to Step 9 you'll see a list of useful software. While the main aim here is to disable telemetry and enhance privacy, turns out doing that also helps out a lot with stuff not mysteriously changing on its own.

Although I guess given the topic of the thread, this is all around a useful guide for anyone wanting to extend their use of W10.

If you really want to jump down a rabbit hole you might want to consider building your own ISO [pastebin.com] https://pastebin.com/S5VKBirt. However, that's probably too much work to be worth the effort. Personally I use the official w10 IoT ISO, shutup10 and privatezilla.

I don't buy AMD products so I have literally not had a single driver issue (on Windows) since like 2003.

Aside from that one time I did buy an AMD product, immediately had an issue, found out that the solution was "follow this google spreadsheet to know which set of drivers to install for which game" and so instead of doing that I unplugged the card, drove back to the store, asked for my money back and bought a new nvidia card. That has since functioned flawlessly with whatever drivers happened to be the most recent ones when I installed it and zero updates. Just like the nvidia card before it. And the one before that.

e. To be fair, I have not had to deal with drivers on my latest Linux install either. But it's more the paranoia and the much wider spectrum of possible problems you might be dealing with when you know you're "not using the game right".

touhou 6 works better in wine than modern windows, so i really don't think it does remove the guesswork unless all of your games are new. And that's just one game, there are a lot of windows games that have problems in newer windows that require a lot of guesswork

and usually linux shit at least gives you a log file.

on the topic of windows, if your pc is new enough to upgrade to 11 i'd guess you're gonna be force upgraded soon, like what windows 8.1 users had happen to them with 10.
i reset an old person's PC and reinstalled Win11 on it and it was a trip from hell. slow, slow, slow, slow, slow. Also win11 now requires a dual layer DVD if you opt for burning a disc instead of using a USB.

This post has been edited by Moonlight Rambler: Nov 2 2024, 02:59

there are a lot of windows games that have problems in newer windows that require a lot of guesswork

Not really. 99% of the time when running old games that don't immediately boot up perfectly it's just a matter of compability mode and/or dgvoodoo2 and a possible fanpatch. I suppose it takes some learning the first few times you try to run a "retro" game, but once you know the usual tricks, games tend to follow the same steps. Just this week I had two games from the 90s that didn't play nice right away and it only took a few minutes each to fix, without even opening google. I adnit I did check PCgamingwiki afterwards to see if I was missing something (I wasn't).

That's one of the advantages with the vast majority of people trying to get games working also running modern Windows. It's real easy to troubleshoot and find advice that applies should you run across something more complicated. Just having the PCGaming wiki pages actually typed out by someone who already figured it out so you don't need to do any guesswork. And these third party tools like dgvoodoo being so actively developed because there's so much demand for them.

A good middle ground is a Windows 10 VM on a Linux host computer with GPU passthrough. All the benefits of Windows without having to concern yourself with it running as your main OS. This is the setup I have for reading visual novels. Once 10 reaches EoL in 2025 I'll simply remove the virtual NIC from my Windows VM and carry on as usual. Linux affords me the freedom to not care about Microsoft's whims which is just one small reason why becoming familiar with Linux is worthwhile.

A good middle ground is a Windows 10 VM on a Linux host computer with GPU passthrough. All the benefits of Windows without having to concern yourself with it running as your main OS. This is the setup I have for reading visual novels. Once 10 reaches EoL in 2025 I'll simply remove the virtual NIC from my Windows VM and carry on as usual. Linux affords me the freedom to not care about Microsoft's whims which is just one small reason why becoming familiar with Linux is worthwhile.

That might work for normal game, but I heard the "modern" game with malware called anti-cheat or whatever won't let you play from VM.

That might work for normal game, but I heard the "modern" game with malware called anti-cheat or whatever won't let you play from VM.

Somebody solved that by nesting 2 VMs, but I agree that's excessive technical hassle.

That might work for normal game, but I heard the "modern" game with malware called anti-cheat or whatever won't let you play from VM.

For a while you could play using hypervisor on windows but rather than patch a vulnerability microsoft disabled their full GPU passthrough support that had 98% performance. Now you have to use the manual vm pass through which similar to linux has worse performance.


It was quite good for games that have malware grade anti-cheat rootkits. I was using it for a few games, now I just abandoned them.

I think legally I am not allowed to play them as I need to keep the work data on my comp secure. I do have a spare laptop I could make for certain games but thats a lot of effort.

Or you could just not get caught.

I'm planning on switching back to Linux after Win10 support ends. At this point it's starting to feel like it's the least inconvenient choice. I changed to windows about 10+ years ago when I built my first proper gaming PC. Linux gaming seems to have come a long way since then, so might as well give it a try.
I've always been a somewhat private person, so the fact that the games with kernel level spyware /anti cheat will automatically stop working doesn't seem like such a huge sacrifice to me.

ReFS is a key incentive for me to upgrade to Windows 11. There were rumors that Microsoft planned to bring ReFS to consumer versions of Windows 11.

However, it's 2025, and ReFS is still missing. I suppose I'll upgrade eventually, for security after all.

ReFS is a key incentive for me to upgrade to Windows 11. There were rumors that Microsoft planned to bring ReFS to consumer versions of Windows 11.

However, it's 2025, and ReFS is still missing. I suppose I'll upgrade eventually, for security after all.

Might be in the enterprise editions? It got disabled again after it was enabled via hidden options in the insider version for a short period.