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> Windows 10 goes bye-bye October 14, 2025, upgrade, buy a new pc/laptop, or get left in the dust

 
post Jul 19 2024, 15:37
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[www.techradar.com] https://www.techradar.com/news/live/windows...-july-2024-live

The new windows are so ''great'' Only Windows affected. Linux safe.
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post Jul 20 2024, 17:17
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With Proton getting better and better, I think I'll switch to Linux on my main PC before then.
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post Jul 24 2024, 18:03
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Had to reinstall Win 10 after my suffered the blue sharts of death followed by the annoying beep and no bootable devices found. They should've fixed the design flaw but nooooo they want distract people with A.I.
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post Jul 25 2024, 05:06
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QUOTE(Striferuka @ Jul 19 2024, 09:37) *

[www.techradar.com] https://www.techradar.com/news/live/windows...-july-2024-live

The new windows are so ''great'' Only Windows affected. Linux safe.

not microsoft's fault. not directly anyway.
If they'd used the mechanism where windows drivers need signing differently, and required them to be submitted to M$ before deployment, they could have avoided this. But they handed the keys over to crowdstrike.

a linux system would break from this same kind of problem if nvidia released very broken kernel modules or something.

I will spread misinformation about it though, or at least do nothing to hamper it, if it means i get to make windows look bad.
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post Jul 25 2024, 07:29
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QUOTE(sr331 @ Jul 24 2024, 06:03) *

Had to reinstall Win 10 after my suffered the blue sharts of death followed by the annoying beep and no bootable devices found. They should've fixed the design flaw but nooooo they want distract people with A.I.



Did you encrypt the drive without windows live?


I like how there is a buried disclaimer that if you use bitlocker without a live account then its your responsibility to manually save the restoration key and make a restoration drive/cd.


QUOTE(Moonlight Rambler @ Jul 24 2024, 17:06) *

not microsoft's fault. not directly anyway.


Conspiracy theory; Microsoft recently became a competitor with crowdstrike with their e5 enterprise plan. Many enterprises only pay the base windows subscription per user (approx $8) and get crowdstrike for ($12-16 per user) instead of paying 38-58 per user for e3 / e5 windows enterprise protection / management.

To get enterprises to switch completely to the Microsoft ecosystem you would need crowdstrike to do some kind of major fuck up. The current CEO of Crowdstrike was the CEO of McAfee before it had some fuck ups and was sold off cheaply. Crowdstrike share price has crashed from 33% due to the incident and may be acquired.

but that's just a theory... a game theory.


edit: Bill Gates loves doing shady shit to make money; eg he benefited greatly from Epstein killing himself.

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post Jul 30 2024, 00:56
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QUOTE(-terry- @ Jul 7 2024, 22:05) *
LTSC exists

Yeah and it's supported until 2032 so definitely no rush to upgrade. Honestly, at this point 10 is pretty decent if properly configured. I don't like it, but it works well enough.
And in typical IT fashion of course as soon as they've got a functional product it's time to introduce something new.
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post Aug 6 2024, 16:26
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Does anyone agree that Win11 is better than Win10?
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post Aug 6 2024, 16:51
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QUOTE(Firehail @ Aug 6 2024, 14:26) *
Does anyone agree that Win11 is better than Win10?
> Copilot
lol no
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post Oct 15 2024, 16:38
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QUOTE(Firehail @ Aug 7 2024, 00:26) *

Does anyone agree that Win11 is better than Win10?

Lol no.
Please take your meds.
Everyone know the rule for windows.
Microsoft tend to release bad windows after decent one, and decent windows after bad one.
And looking at past case, I would rather stuck in Windows 7 or 10 or wait until Windows 12 or whatever the name for the new OS after Windows 11.
...Or just finally move to Linux.
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post Oct 15 2024, 17:16
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QUOTE(Nazure @ Oct 15 2024, 17:38) *

Everyone know the rule for windows.
Microsoft tend to release bad windows after decent one, and decent windows after bad one.

Nowadays it's more like they release one terrible OS after another but with 5+ years of updates and community fixes they're somehow usable, then the same cycle repeats with the next "major release".
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post Oct 16 2024, 00:13
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I don't care, I have no need for bloated SAAS apps and AI garbage all wrapped in a giant layer of spyware and data collection that would have been dystopian to even consider just a decade ago.

I'll stick to the Unix/linux flavors.
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post Oct 16 2024, 00:22
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QUOTE(kotitonttu @ Oct 16 2024, 01:16) *

Nowadays it's more like they release one terrible OS after another but with 5+ years of updates and community fixes they're somehow usable, then the same cycle repeats with the next "major release".

I guess so.
I still remembered how hard I rejected Windows 10, and refuse to install it again after the launch.

Windows 10 was so horrible and all the linux distro that I tried didn't give me confidence.
Like I might enjoyed some Linux distro for casual use (browsing/reading/video/music), but trying to find Linux equivalent software for software that I use/need in Windows started to get so bothersome.
And at that time, my gaming experience in Linux is still far from good.

Recently though, more and more Windows software that I use/need stop supporting my OS, and I just got handed me down PC.
After buying and replacing some of the parts, I tried Windows 10 LTSC.
I guess it's decent enough now.
Still... if Microsoft keep their horrible privacy practice for Windows 12, I swear that my main PC OS will be one of Linux distro.
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post Oct 16 2024, 04:45
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QUOTE(Agoraphobia @ Aug 6 2024, 04:51) *

> Copilot
lol no


It was so heinous that Microsoft agreed to roll back and allow opt out of a ton of their new telemetry features for now™

I bet they just agreed to wind a little back until the frog does not notice the pot boiling.


Its like Windows 10, they had the EU compliant version that allowed you to switch off all telemetry but then update after update they started rolling things back out or broke the global group policy and registry settings that allowed global opt out.

It was really annoyed when they broke the global group policy flag and instead you had to dick around and find like 10 new flags to toggle. Some were manual and not even in the group policy editor.

Lel, seems they 'fixed that' but I had to go back in and turn it off property again, after updates on my current machine it was set to 'undefined' in several cases.
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post Oct 16 2024, 08:27
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QUOTE(Firehail @ Aug 6 2024, 10:26) *
Does anyone agree that Win11 is better than Win10?
no.
QUOTE(Nazure @ Oct 15 2024, 10:38) *
Everyone know the rule for windows.
Microsoft tend to release bad windows after decent one, and decent windows after bad one.
That hasn't been true in years. And no, 10 is not a good OS just because the UI isn't Windows 8.
QUOTE(kotitonttu @ Oct 15 2024, 11:16) *
Nowadays it's more like they release one terrible OS after another but with 5+ years of updates and community fixes they're somehow usable, then the same cycle repeats with the next "major release".
Yes. Except I don't think it's worth the effort to try to salvage something usable out of the dumpster fire anymore.

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post Oct 16 2024, 20:35
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QUOTE(Moonlight Rambler @ Oct 16 2024, 08:27) *

Yes. Except I don't think it's worth the effort to try to salvage something usable out of the dumpster fire anymore.


I agree with you, mostly because the path Microsoft is currently on with Windows, and as with most modern software, is one of Software as a Service, running on their hardware in their cloud, and that's just not something that I want nor are interested in.
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post Oct 17 2024, 19:57
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Video games are like 90% of the reason I use Windows. If I wasn't a gaymer there's zero chance I'd deal with MS's bullshit.

Well the good news is that there are already more than enough games that run on Win10 to last a lifetime. The main thing I'm worried about is that Valve set a precedent by choosing to not support Windows 7 anymore. If the same trend continues, it might be worth it just to have a separate PC used only for games and nothing else. Or just grow up and get a better hobby.

This post was made using Arch linux.
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post Oct 19 2024, 15:53
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QUOTE(kotitonttu @ Oct 18 2024, 03:57) *

Video games are like 90% of the reason I use Windows. If I wasn't a gaymer there's zero chance I'd deal with MS's bullshit.

Well the good news is that there are already more than enough games that run on Win10 to last a lifetime. The main thing I'm worried about is that Valve set a precedent by choosing to not support Windows 7 anymore. If the same trend continues, it might be worth it just to have a separate PC used only for games and nothing else. Or just grow up and get a better hobby.

This post was made using Arch linux.

It's probably just matters of time until Valve got convinced to drop support for W10 too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Honestly after Valve drop W7, I lost all interest in buying license to play games in Steam.
Oh well, I probably already bought enough games to last until my death anyway.
The only games that I'll still buy are hentai games from dlsite or other sites.
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post Oct 20 2024, 14:30
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QUOTE(Nazure @ Oct 15 2024, 16:38) *

Everyone know the rule for windows.
Microsoft tend to release bad windows after decent one, and decent windows after bad one.


As far as I know M$ is now pretty "out of the loop" as OS revenues are totally down (reason why they want to push advertise inside the OS itself), and the money stream comes mostly from the Azure section, that's ... Linux boxes.

source: random crap I read around, I guess it can be checked in the company public reports and stuff.

Anyway with the gaming usage of PC strongly polarizes people, my mind suggests me: if that specific kind of gaming really is important to you, why "waste" a whole PC for gaming, when you can go to the console market?
It is really a dumb question, my last console I possessed was a Nintendo NES.

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post Oct 20 2024, 15:47
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why "waste" a whole PC for gaming, when you can go to the console market?


most people never knew better systems. they were born with windows and continue to live with this brand.
i had to speak to a student from some crap university where kids are being told "programming"... NONE of them were using linux\BSD systems, in a fucking uni
just think about it, ipad was released in 2010, and there are people who never had a personal computer at home.
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post Oct 20 2024, 16:43
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QUOTE(Gingiseph @ Oct 20 2024, 15:30) *

why "waste" a whole PC for gaming, when you can go to the console market?

1. Consoles have a limited library of whatever generation and brand that console represents. PC's can play any PC game ever made and most console games too, so you can just own 1 device rather than needing like 8 consoles.
2. Console games are shit, and lack nearly all of the most interesting titles available on PC.
3. A console locks you into that console manufacturer's ecosystem. There is not nearly the amount of competition among storefronts and thus much higher pricing for video games.
4. A console locks you into a specific set of hardware, rather than being able to plug in anything with a USB and choosing your components yourself.
5. Console games and console operating systems are designed not to be modified. Don't like a feature in the game? Mod it out. Oh, can't do that on console. Don't like the keybindings? Change them. Oh, can't do that on console if the dev didn't include that feature. Game was released buggy? Download a fanpatch. Really wish there was more content? Download a total overhaul mod. Would like some new maps or higher quality textures? Just download them. Oh...
6. Piracy is much more difficult meaning you can't try out games for free, and if something is pulled off the shelves you simply can't access it. Or use DLC unlockers or any of the other nice features of a PC.

Once you ever get used to PC gaming, whether that's as a kid or later in life, it can be hard to see how you were ever able to stand console gaming. It's the gaming equivalent to boomers simply turning on the TV and watching whatever is on. Giving the corpos full control on what you are allowed to play and how rather than it being your own device catered to your tastes.

QUOTE(cv9x @ Oct 20 2024, 16:47) *

i had to speak to a student from some crap university where kids are being told "programming"... NONE of them were using linux\BSD systems, in a fucking uni

I my uni everything ran on Linux, with then additional instructions for how to get things running on Windows. The OS the laptops the school supplies to students run a fork of Ubuntu specifically designed for the purpose (afaik it's just Ubuntu with some software and utilities preinstalled.)
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