[X] My Assistant

To write a note is to bookmark and I said:
>You could use favorites but it's super cumbersome and I use it as a wishlist anyway. I don't want to fill it with stuff I already read partially...
Favorites are not for mangashi you partially read.

This post has been edited by Bulopu: Mar 30 2024, 10:24

To write a note is to bookmark and I said:
>You could use favorites but it's super cumbersome and I use it as a wishlist anyway. I don't want to fill it with stuff I already read partially...
Favorites are not for mangashi you partially read.

You have 10 favorites categories, they can be used in whatever way you want.

This post has been edited by -terry-: Mar 30 2024, 11:41

Are you even reading what I am writing?
>I don't want to fill it with stuff I already read partially...

What if I tell you that I use all 10 categories already? 10 is like nothing. In fact, I am already using a category as a comment tracker as E-H didn't want users to be able to find their own comments back as they could abuse the system when favorites were limited. It's a waste of a category I could use for another fetish of mine and it's filling my favs with junk. At least, tracking your comments has a purpose because you can come back to see if you got an answer or got downvoted to earth, but bookmarking mangashi you will probably never touch again, nope. Tagging was passive and easy for that purpose.

This post has been edited by Bulopu: Mar 30 2024, 15:35

The tagging system is for marking works correctly for the whole community, not per individual. Any other use case will not be supported by the site.

Most people that only upvote will rarely be effected so long as they are voting correctly to contribute to the community

I regularly pop in to see new galleries, upvote appropriate tags, and (to a lesser extent) downvote inappropriate ones. I've always enjoyed participating in the community in this way.

But as of a week and a half ago, that functionality has been largely locked out to me, unless I get lucky and find something RIGHT after it shows up.

The tag engagement was the thing that set this site apart from others. And this update largely removed that beyond a pretty strict time limit. It's honestly really disappointing. I hope it was worth it, I guess. :/

There is no point in upvoting a solid tag in the first place anyway, at least on the community level.

You don't get any toplist/accuracy point, searchability-wise it's still the same solid tag. The only thing that it adds is to make the tag harder to kill when your vote is wrong.

Just skimming the tag tracker, it seems to take about 5 hours before strong tags start showing up properly, and even then it's not all of them, I don't think the window is all that small.

There is no point in upvoting a solid tag in the first place anyway, at least on the community level.

You don't get any toplist/accuracy point, searchability-wise it's still the same solid tag. The only thing that it adds is to make the tag harder to kill when your vote is wrong.

Sure, but if a lot more folks are disinclined to add tags anymore, that means fewer galleries getting appropriate tags that weren't already added.

This post has been edited by The Goat is Watching: Apr 1 2024, 21:31

Sure, but if a lot more folks are disinclined to add tags anymore, that means fewer galleries getting appropriate tags that weren't already added.

Shouldn't really effect anyone starting tags? Bar the odd rare case of a downed tag becoming valid later/incorrectly killed

The current downvote tracking tools rely on the API, which doesn't return any <10 mp tags, and checking hundreds of galleries without the API is not an option.

Is there any chance to have a new field for dotted/low mp tags in the API response? Now that downvoted tags get soft enforced and the new tag tracker can show revived tags, its a lot more important for vigs to kill the tags completely.

Are you even reading what I am writing?
>I don't want to fill it with stuff I already read partially...

What if I tell you that I use all 10 categories already? 10 is like nothing.

I use 1 favorite tab.
If you can't come up with a way to organize your favorites into 9 categories instead of 10 to leave one open specifically for this purpose that's literally a skill issue.

The only thing that it adds is to make the tag harder to kill when your vote is wrong.

Problem is, it's now impossible for the vast majority to downvote a wrong tag, if it's mistakenly made solid. That doesn't really seem better.

Problem is, it's now impossible for the vast majority to downvote a wrong tag, if it's mistakenly made solid. That doesn't really seem better.

If bad tags do end up reaching 100 power and get locked, they can be posted in the mistagging thread. The idea of it locking at 100MP is that many people have to see the tag before it actually reaches that point so it should be correct and should not need to be voted down. We have a tracker for all new tags so objectively wrong tags should have less chance of going under the radar.

This post has been edited by nasu: Apr 16 2024, 21:15

Would there be a way to make the +100MP that language tags set by the uploader get, to not count for enforcement calculation? Right now wrong language tags require the max amount of MP to downvote and since I don't have that amount I keep running into those situations. I'd have to note down the url or immediately make a downvote request lest I lose track since I can't conveniently use the tag check script to accumulate and gather the requests in one place.

Since they require 100mp to count for default language filtering, and when almost all language tags past a certain date are set by uploaders, solely removing the enforcement from that would be counter productive. We don't want low MP users that don't know the ropes removing default language filtering on galleries.

Although I understand the concern someone downvoting valid language tags almost just seems unfathomable to me. Like I can see a newbie UPvote incorrect language tags that don't meet presence or speechless, but the opposite almost seems too stupid.

Perhaps the standard uploader power could be set to 124MP to compensate? It would allow someone with 25MP to remove the solid border of the tag.

There has been a recent change allowing tag vetoers to clean up incorrect uploader language selections so editing the base MP of them should no longer be necessary.

2024-04-23

- If a gallery has a language tag implicitly set by the uploader's language selection, the first vetoer downvote on the tag will now always be -100, allowing one vetoer to cancel it out.

This post has been edited by nasu: Apr 23 2024, 14:04

That's a nice change and it'll certainly speed up downvote requests, but it doesn't really address the "issue" I have. Where I was going with the 124MP thing in combination with loosening of soft enforce was that it allows users with 25MP to remove the solid border same as before, while allowing users with less MP to add it to the tag check script. At the same time it also allows those users to remove the solid border as long as they collectively have 25MP (minimum 2 users).

All things considered it's a pretty minor issue but it's just a bother having to copy-paste the urls manually.

If it gets out of hand even with these improvements I will suggest a change, but let's see how it goes for a while. We are monitoring the users who wrongly add these tags so the number of tags left after a day or two should slowly decrease over time.

Now that there are less tags to vote on, is there a plan to increase its inpact on mod power calculation?