If the lefties do not replicate the population will become more conservative as they do have kids.
We have seen it in Muslim, Indian and Chinese populations here, where they start to swing more conservative as family is a huge issue for them. Muslims still vote for the left wing party despite not sharing any values as they see them as being easy to eliminate in the future.
Is there anything notable about people who have alternate forms of cheap entertainment forgoing sex and childrearing for something more affordable?
Opportunity costs, and the perception of the economy as well as expectations for living standards have a big impact.
Currently living standards are in decline for the first time globally in like 100 years. In the past when we were primarily agricultural or even manufacturing based on domestic demand then pumping out more kids would raise family income.
Now with homes being so expensive, it messes with people's calculations for future. The expectations for stable employment is also a big issue as well.
People were leaving kids to later anyway, but now fertility is dropping. Porn's main contribution is meaning men are less enthusiastic to yolo marrying young. The divorce rate, mainly initiated by women, also means people don't have kids till later.
It is about hope. When there is hope for the future, people are more likely to brith a baby. But if they think the future is doomed, then everyone is for themselves. No babies.
All birth rates in countries that got mRNA'd are down about 0.1-0.2. Most countries have now fallen bellow 2.0 except Indonesia (only got traditional vaccine), African countries, and some South American countries that got the traditional vaccine through China.
The Chinese traditional vaccine was not very effective, but covid19 was also not very deadly. There were also adverse reactions but no impact on fertility.
It takes about 6 months for male fertility to complete recover (to 90%) after each mRNA dose. I am not sure what happens if people keep getting boosted.
It is simply the natural consequence of "the sexual revolution", the pill and "gender equality". This is the future they chose. It's not like people weren't warned, but those speaking against "progress" were just hateful bigots and luddites. The plummeting birth rates are the ultimate argument though. They clearly demonstrate, in a manner that cannot be disputed by words, that the current culture and "world order" in the West is unsustainable. How do you sustain a civilization with a negative birth rate? You don't. It's an objective failure. Turns out (who would've guessed) that the wisdom that humans had gathered for tens of thousands of years and molded civilization around had some truth to it, and wasn't just randomly thought up and irrelevant in the age of computers.
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All birth rates in countries that got mRNA'd are down about 0.1-0.2.
I don't know shit about the vaccines (didn't take one, so didn't feel the need to read up on it) but the birth rate around here for the native population has been falling at a rate of about 0.1 every two years or so for the entirery of the 2000s long before corona ever happened so that might just be a coincidence.
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It is simply the natural consequence of "the sexual revolution", the pill and "gender equality". This is the future they chose. It's not like people weren't warned, but those speaking against "progress" were just hateful bigots and luddites.
True, fertility drops with age especially for women but also men. They are also hiding that the pill if used for more than 2 months at a time damages the female endocrine system, which has developmental effects for children and mental health issues for women. Also brings forward menopause. Its not even a conspiracy anymore, we have 15 years of journal papers and research studies. Luckily big pharma has a political movement that is based on the pill even though we have other contraception available.
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The plummeting birth rates are the ultimate argument though. They clearly demonstrate, in a manner that cannot be disputed by words, that the current culture and "world order" in the West is unsustainable. How do you sustain a civilization with a negative birth rate? You don't. It's an objective failure.
Denmark is the first country to start freaking the fuck out, as sperm quality has declined 22% after double vaccination in prime fertility males.
I don't know shit about the vaccines (didn't take one, so didn't feel the need to read up on it) but the birth rate around here for the native population has been falling at a rate of about 0.1 every two years or so for the entirery of the 2000s long before corona ever happened so that might just be a coincidence.
Its a drop bigger than predicted and in 80% of countries. It first became noticed because China leapfrogged Japan in terms of collapsing birth rate. Then they started noticing reproduction dropping below replacement.
They have also developed tests that show damage caused by the vaccine rather than covid19 in the heart and other tissues. Earlier strains of covid 19 could cause the same thing in severe cases, but the problem is they lied about the mRNA vaccine being localised like with traditional vaccines. In most cases the mRNA vaccine spread around the body and gathered in tissues of several key organs and for longer than they said as well.
It could all just fizzle out and be temporary, but we will not know until 2025/6 data. A previous VP of Pfizer is freaking the fuck out and having a mental breakdown now saying that they knew about the fertility problem and the vaccine was endorsed anyway.
Think there are a lot of people who dont want kids not because they cant but because they dont want to bring any more children to this ever more dangerous world. Another thing could be that it is very time consuming. Some people prefer more time for vacations and others things. Also I guess some people think about the climate as more population isnt helping that. At the same time when population is going down, there will be less people in jobs and the government must find a way to fill the vacant slots in various jobs around. It is a conundrum right.
have kids? so you can feed the machine and the pockets of a select few elites? Fuck no, the world will be fine, its fucking ''governments'' and their owners who are panicking because their numbers might not go up.
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have kids? so you can feed the machine and the pockets of a select few elites? Fuck no, the world will be fine, its fucking ''governments'' and their owners who are panicking because their numbers might not go up.
kids? Nah, elites flooding countries with migrants to create permanent slave class that owns nothing.
In my country they published that you need to earn in the top 5% of income to achieve middle class outcomes from the 90s now. You need 180k to own a house, have kids, live comfortably and have holidays, the way people in the 90s could.
The birth rate collapse globally could be a problem because it's going to change the world as we know it. But at the same time, human population really increased exponentially after the industrial revolution and especially after World War 2 so maybe there are just way too many humans.
Radical measures to address this have never been enacted throughout history, despite the direct link to the economy and national power, because freedom, rights, and happiness are the cause of the low birth rates of the masses. The civilized world has worked very hard to eliminate teen pregnancies, and just how much pregnancy and giving birth sucks will give pause when or if you give into your instincts later, before even getting into the costs and opportunity costs of raising children. The very rich can be fecund if they wish and pay the bad parts away.
We won't get to see the classical effects of the population halving over and over, because, later this century, some US company flooded with spooks will create basically an AI god, and human labor will become irrelevant. In the meantime the crisis is just an issue of unbalanced budgets and the quality of elderly care.
You forgot about e-girl enablers and wankers who pay for onlyfans instead of going out and buying a prostitute.
Tiktok and the constant flow of entertainment is also degrading children's minds. A decade ago they'd watch like a few select TV programmes that they like, then they'd get bored and have to find other things to do. Either hanging out with friends, sports, drawing, catching bugs, toys, etc.
Now the tablet is their toy, it's cheaper than buying them toys every few weeks and you don't have to watch them, they watch themselves. Adding to the conveniency, kids can communicate with each other online so there are less incentive for them to meet up. There's also a rise/trend of retarded ideology on social media that children can now freely access, infecting their impressionable minds even more.
Women are also encouraged/enticed to work with the higher pay, benefits and policies. So an increase in households where both parents are just slaving away at work while no parent is home to teach/guide the kids.
You forgot about e-girl enablers and wankers who pay for onlyfans instead of going out and buying a prostitute.
Tiktok and the constant flow of entertainment is also degrading children's minds. A decade ago they'd watch like a few select TV programmes that they like, then they'd get bored and have to find other things to do. Either hanging out with friends, sports, drawing, catching bugs, toys, etc.
Now the tablet is their toy, it's cheaper than buying them toys every few weeks and you don't have to watch them, they watch themselves. Adding to the conveniency, kids can communicate with each other online so there are less incentive for them to meet up. There's also a rise/trend of retarded ideology on social media that children can now freely access, infecting their impressionable minds even more.
And now with AI Slop generators, kids don't even need to know what drawing is, just let the corporation do the thinking/activity for you.
There was the natural decline in birth rates due to economics and improved health care but the majority of countries are now trending below replacement, 2 births per woman.
which is a very good thing humans are severely overpopulated we need to back down to something reasonable
And now with AI Slop generators, kids don't even need to know what drawing is, just let the corporation do the thinking/activity for you.
I forgot about that, those things affect old and middle-aged people too. You go on facebook and a bunch of AI slop appear with comments underneath not knowing anything and getting tricked. Horrendously, the AI riffraff even generate pictures of starving children and then started dm-ing those unsuspecting commenters and asking them for donations! WHAT THE FUCK? It just happened today with my old lady. I'm so fucking tired of this.
which is a very good thing humans are severely overpopulated we need to back down to something reasonable
lmao in what world are humans "severely overpopulated"? The Earth could easily support 100 billion people let alone 8. All the "experts" saying otherwise were saying 500 million when that was close to the current population, then 2 billion, then 4... With modern innovations like film-farming enabling crops to be grown on top of each other and underground, we have virtually endless potential for growing sustenance. More than half of earth's landmass is still classified as "untouched" nature, and that doesn't even include parts where there's like one house per square km. According to these online maps I'm looking at there isn't a speck of wilderness left where I live, yet I've been to places where there is nothing but forest for tens of kilometers in all directions.
I'm not saying we should have 100 billion people, but it wouldn't even be an issue. Any "overpopulation" myth you hear is social engineering aimed at making YOU stop breeding.
Global Birth Rate Collapse, As planned? Or a problem
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