[X] My Assistant

How do you know he's not already lurking here, disguised under some unpretentious account ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Ok, you got me. Yeah, I am the Musket boy himself.

My ultimate plan is that: All EH users will have the option to perform searches but with pages, for a low-low price of $8/per result.

Looks like the seek/jump feature is a little broken, when I jump to "2015-10" I get galleries "2015-10-31" and if I go up to the left a whole month is missing, it gives me "2015-11-01" and immediately "2015-12-01". If I go down to the right of "2015-10-31" it gives me "2015-12-24" then "2015-11-04" and then galleries "2015-10-31" appear again. The selected types are "Dujinshi, manga, artis cg, game cg".
Quck edit. I'm either an idiot or it's completely broken.
The same thing in every jump. just some random galleries appears in results.

Not to be snarky or anything, but was the red bold text not red and/or bold enough for you?

Here, let me try this:

SEEKS AND JUMPS TO GALLERIES POSTED BEFORE ***OCTOBER 2021*** OR SO WILL BE WONKY UNTIL I RUN A SCRIPT TO MAKE SOME FIXES TO THE PUBLISH TIMESTAMPS TO MATCH THE BEHAVIOR OF NEWER GALLERIES. THIS CORRECTION WILL HAPPEN SHORTLY AFTER THE UPDATE IS FULLY DEPLOYED.

Perhaps we should ask Elon Musk if he's willing to fund E-H, after having bought Twitter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Elon Musk doesn't even want to fund Twitter even though he owns it.

The jump/seek is a nice addition, but the usage is a bit clunky at the moment, requiring you to click, type, and back to clicking. I think it could be improved so it's usable by only clicking (see below) and/or keyboard input.

Yeah, that's very nice, I might just adopt that. Thanks for the example.

i'm really an idiot. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Contains strange English due to the use of a translator.
My question is, is it possible to show the number of submissions in Next and Prev. For example like this.
　　　　 Found 125 results.
75< Prev Jump/Seek Next >25

Agreed, this would be great.

@Tenboro
Thank you for taking care of this site, really. My life wouldn't be the same without it. There's many complaints, which are from lack of understanding reasons behind changes I think. It's not easy change for all us, but having this site up and running is more important. I miss for example ability to browse normal and expunged galleries in the same results page, but I understand why you made this change and have to agree with your motives. Good luck!

The new mechanism to jump with date/time is pretty good. However, I think searching about downvoted tags could still be improved.

Currently with the new system, if a query with multiple tags (say A and B ), and when "search low-power tags" is checked, then all tags have to be low-power for a gallery to show up. But with old system, a gallery with A as normal tag but B as low-power tag would also be included.

I remembered somewhere in the thread it was mentioned that normal tags and low-power tags are indexed separately. How about another index of all tags (low-power or not) combined? Personally I believe it would be more useful to indicate a tag *can* be low-powered instead of all tags *must* be.

Losing the old page based system hurts,
but considering all cons & pros,
Tenboro made the right decision.

The new GID system needs more fine tuning, but I see, that is already being worked on.
Thanks for listening to all that brigading -> sorry: complains -> sorry: requests
Thanks for the improvements and scripts.

This is only the beging of the new system, and begings are never easy.
Please keep caring / updating / improving / and listening

Thanks for keeping this archive alive

@Tenboro

This is just a suggestion, but there's actually a quick-and-dirty but non-intensive solution to "wanting to know how many next buttons" someone clicked: Put a query var with integer value in the next/prev and just math it in the backend.

For example, on page 1, the next button can have a query var like "?next=<gid>&page=2". With that, you can generate the page 2 with the value of "page" query to display the next button as "?next=<gid>&page=3" and "?prev=<gid>&page=1". As simple and dumb as it sounds, it is merely a decrement/increment of the page var and printing it on the frontend but the users will find it very convenient IMHO.

And if ever the total number of results in a search is calculated in the backend, we'll be able to calculate and display the prev x and next y galleries using this query var, as per @Aioross's question above.

EDIT: This is merely for display purposes and it won't know the last page button's "page number" but doing something like making it a negative integer will enable it to at least display the relative "page x" from last as a way to know how many pages someone is from the final page.

And to be honest, putting a "page" query var in the url doesn't have to be in the backend: Anyone can write a browser script to do that and make everything I said above possible without hitting the backend server at all.

This post has been edited by sakuracircle: Nov 5 2022, 16:30

(Not having a page selector is worse than having a page selector / Not having an exact result count is worse than having an exact result count) and this update is therefore a step backwards UI-wise!

Well, no shit. They weren't removed because I thought it would be an improvement, but because with the increasing size of the index, it was getting more and more expensive processing-wise to provide these things, especially considering that the traffic has been significantly increasing as well.

How come boorus can do that and you can't?

Even if a lot of people disagree, this is a hill I'm willing to die on.

I can't remember these words ever working out fine for a person saying them.

You should be communicating more about upcoming updates and giving script/tool writes a heads-up instead of just dropping them with no warning!

You bring up script/tool makers an awful lot in your posts, even though the people being hit the hardest by this update is the basic bitch users which the majority of this site's population consists of. I'm sure script makers would be able to make your site usable, but that wouldn't fix the lack of basic functionality people come to expect from a site like this. Which alternatives provide out of the box without any need to jump hoops with cookie shenanigans.
I hope the database index is public so the tool makers could parse it on user's end as a workaround. I can't imagine using the site without the page selector.

While feedback from such a public test would be unlikely to fundamentally change the nature of the update, at least it might work out some issues that weren't raised in closed testing, and also provide tool/script writers with a heads-up for upcoming changes.

I can't believe I'll have to look up how to export my favorites list fist time in over a decade after using this site. Man, feels like shit. At least it should work well as an archive.

Hey, the date thing actually works ok! I'll have to get used to rethinking how things are spaced out by date though. It might be neat to show, say, a marker of how far through overall galleries you are. Just like what % between the earliest dates and todays date the first gallery in the first result on the page is. Wouldn't even need to be specific to the current search, but would give some more navigational perspective.

Also really glad the favorites functionality is back.

Hey, the date thing actually works ok! I'll have to get used to rethinking how things are spaced out by date though. It might be neat to show, say, a marker of how far through overall galleries you are. Just like what % between the earliest dates and todays date the first gallery in the first result on the page is. Wouldn't even need to be specific to the current search, but would give some more navigational perspective.

Also really glad the favorites functionality is back.

Something as simple as "displaying results 345 to 370 of 580"?

Something as simple as "displaying results 345 to 370 of 580"?

I think given paging isn't possible anymore that that sort of thing also would not be practical. I was thinking more like take the first day as 0 and today's date as the max and the first gallery on the page as, say, 76% though E Hentai's timeline or something. Since it's just using today's date, the current page results and the first date, it would not be specific to the current search you are doing, but would give some time frame perspective.

How come boorus can do that and you can't?

If you were to actually read my "but why" post, you may have noticed these lines:

3. Remove functionalty that was expensive in the old search engine, such as hybrid title/tag searching and comment searching.
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With the third option, you would only be able to search for titles or tags, but not both at the same time. Searching would just be all around hampered and unintuitive. See; shitstorm.

If I additionally give you the hint that "boorus only have tags", I'm sure you can figure it out.

Besides, have you ever tried going deep into pagination on a major booru? Let's say if you search for something that has [gelbooru.com] lots of results, then try clicking the "go to last page" button? Try it and report back.

Honestly Options 2 seem more realistic to me from Tenboro reply, sure Limit to around 1000-2000 searchs might seem restriciive at first, but if you search multiple tags. it's unlikely to ever cross 5000 mark. Not to mentioned that you can search single tags with added conditions such as only game cg, or only doujinshi, honestly, crossing over 1000 mark per search is actually very rare.

I don't consider date searching is a good indicator by any means, since the date a gallery got on EH is the date the uploader put on EH, not the release date, and not to mentioned that the numbers of galleries uploaded each date is not the same, it's simply way too reliable as an indicator to keep track of. If anything making pagination through GID is more reliable compare to date, since the issues of new galleries upload can be solved with refresh, and people with multiple tags search is unlikely to get so much results that it's cannot be keep tracked of even with new galleries added since it's unlikely a lot of new galleries could have similar tags.

This post has been edited by dragon1412: Nov 5 2022, 18:18

Besides, have you ever tried going deep into pagination on a major booru? Let's say if you search for something that has [gelbooru.com] lots of results, then try clicking the "go to last page" button? Try it and report back.

You mean that it's possible as a payed feature? Sure, I don't see why not. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Also the pages work properly for the first couple of hundreds of them, so much so that I've never noticed the inability of going beyond that, hence it covers the majority of my navigation needs anyway.

If we were to double the capacity for the core webserver cluster, $4500 per month.

Never expected this to be my first post, but oh well. While I really see why you wouldn't want to consider this "donation approach" please keep it in back of your head. We have way less impressive porn sites/artists making more, and what you have here is hands down the best hentai site in existence. As of now there are simply no good alternatives.
I understand I'm in very lucky position to be able to even consider donating, but I simply refuse to believe there are not enough of us who wouldn't mind helping this way.
(I get it wouldn't be solution to this specific problem, at least not long term, but wouldn't it give you way more breathing room?)

You should be communicating more about upcoming updates and giving script/tool writes a heads-up instead of just dropping them with no warning!

The new version of the site did undergo closed testing for weeks before it went live, and I can't think of any site that does full-blown public testing, so it would be easy to write this off as "you're asking too much".

But: fair enough. Even though these UI updates only show up every two or three years and would involve maintaining a separate test instance, this really would not take that much additional work.

While feedback from such a public test would be unlikely to fundamentally change the nature of the update, at least it might work out some issues that weren't raised in closed testing, and also provide tool/script writers with a heads-up for upcoming changes.

As such, whenever an future update with major UI changes is getting ready for launch, I'll make a public test version of it first.

Thanks for doing this in the future. Knowing that a major change is coming and being able to adapt to it before it goes live will be very helpful. Like in this case, the people that were browsing deeply in some tags could have marked down the GID they were at and not have lost their place.

Honestly Options 2 seem more realistic to me from Tenboro reply, sure Limit to around 1000-2000 searchs might seem restriciive at first, but if you search multiple tags. it's unlikely to ever cross 5000 mark. Not to mentioned that you can search single tags with added conditions such as only game cg, or only doujinshi, honestly, crossing over 1000 mark per search is actually very rare.

I agree but apparently we're in the minority.
I guess there are many people searching just "big breasts" that will be ultramad if not every single result is shown.

A new code update has been pushed live:

New Feature: Seek/Jump Navigation

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- Corrected an issue where galleries were no longer displayed under favorites if they are unavailable.

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Thanks for the further improvements. The seek functionality was very much needed. Still sad that expunged checkbox was changed but I guess I can restore the functionality with a scuffed script.

Bug report:
Favorites list now displays expunged galleries as well but now some of the visible galleries are duplicated into the second page.
for example: I have 2 unavailable galleries on the first page of my 8th category. When I go to the next page, the 48th and 49th galleries are duplicated as the 1st and 2nd galleries of the second page. Totaling 147/145 galleries listed
also when I press "< Prev" on the second page now the first page has 47 galleries (missing those duplicates and one extra) and the next page contains those. The count per page isn't important but the duplicates should be gone.
(also the top post says 2021-11-05 - Update)

This post has been edited by Tagtagger: Nov 5 2022, 19:49

I'm not a technical person. I'll just throw out a bunch of things that I think is more acceptable than this, er, wonderful new approach.

1. Archive anything from before 2020-12-31 in a separate database as 'old' EH. New EH would start on 2020-01-01.
Users searching on current EH will only find content after 2020-01. To find older stuff, they can go to Old EH and search there.
Now of course, this would result in two separate queries, and there is work involved in maintaining the two sub-sites.
However, Old EH would essentially remain static forever, maybe occasionally maintained due to deletions and other reasons. Perhaps this would make it possible to run a much more lightweight search function on it.
New EH, which is heavier because stuff is being added to it, would also run lighter, shedding about 60% of the database at this time. Storage use doesn't really change.

2. Max 1000 results per search, why not.
"Only the 1000 latest results are being shown.
To show older results, specify a date range in Advanced Search."
As long as there is an option to specify date ranges, it would be far more usable than this absolute work of genius right now.

3. You know what, I could live with no mouseover thumbnails. In fact, compared to the option that has been chosen, I could live with having no gallery thumbnails period, requiring users to click into an image to see it.


Of course, I'm just one of the people, what's the word, 'brigadeering', so any objections must necessarily not be real, just like how the other 900 critical comments in this thread are all fake.

I've never used a 3rd-party viewer before, but I guess I'll have to do it now since viewing the site with a browser, no tools attached, really isn't an option. Or I guess this is God's message to go clean and get my porn legally. Definitely less painful that way, and it'll even do some good in the world.