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BTW this breaks compatibility with a lot of older tools for interfacing with EH, such as EHViewer on android - these apps can only see 1 page worth of content now.

Flat out, I think this change to the search engine is a terrible idea. We've got 30 odd pages of people saying this is a terrible idea and that it runs completely counter to the ideals of a hentai gallery site, to make content inaccessible in this way.

A new search engine should add features, not remove them. Please consider rolling back this update, and giving it another 3 to 6 months in the oven.

Or at least reserve the new engine for broad searches where millions of results will be found.

This may not be the solution to any, *cough*, everyone's problems regarding page nagivation but there is a very good infinite scroll autopager addon called PageZipper. Just download the addon on whether mozilla browsers (I think chrome has one too but I dunno), and then on whether tag page or whatever you're in, click the zipper icon, and it'll start loading up next pages. Unfortunately it only does left/right arrows but there's no refreshing the page, so it's close enough

I'm not actually reading this thread anymore due to the heavy brigadeering...

Uh, do you know what brigadeering is? Because this aint it falco. Brigadeering implies that people are going out of their way to get their friends, social circles, etc to come here and to pressure you into doing something. Unfortunately, this simply isn't the case, many of the posts here are organic in nature. Most people are logging onto EH to do what they normally do, noticing the page numbers are gone, and then coming here to see you talk about a new search engine.

The page counter was integral to the functionality of the site. Removing it without adding a similar alternative before pushing it out to the public is a terrible idea. And while I understand that there is a technical reason for it being removed, we've seen evidence that there are alternatives using the new system to introduce a feature similar to pagination off the back of GIDs. That script doesn't work at the moment probably due to the rapidly evolving nature of this update, but implementing even a "here's the first GID, here's the last GID, here's a bar to select a GID between <start> and <end>, and we'll round it to the nearest valid GID in your search when you submit"

... idk why I'm wasting my breath. You admitted you're dismissing all of this criticism and ignoring this thread. I guess it's time to move onto another site?

please roll back... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Down on my knees begging for a rollback. Like this update is so genuinely disheartening it actually got me to make a post here.

I hope there can be some middle-ground solution to this. I get that the old search engine was computationally expensive, but the usability of the new one is...not great unfortunately.

This post has been edited by jonasjoao: Nov 3 2022, 15:02

While i dislike the change myself, the biggest problem I have with this situation is just how sudden it was - there's no notice, no time to prepare, no support. One minute it worked, and then it became something completely different from pretty much every other mainstream sites on the internet, so it's a given that most of the users here don't have a slight idea of how to use this function at all.

I don't demand these changes to be reverted (I like to though), I just hope that next time, there will be warning, there will be time for tech-savvy users to make scripts (like this good sir here https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...;#entry6202058) to provide alternatives for removed functions, and more intrustions on how actually to use the new method. And most of all, please don't simplified the 30-ish pages shit storm from who-know-how-many user as spam, as for a site which has tags for every fetish the twisted human mind can think of, it user base will have different preferences other than "leave the hardcore porn tab open 24/7". Inertia to new changes is already a problem, so please don't make the change harder than it should be..

For the rest of the user: there're some alternatives scripts for page around, so please check it out (and give them time to be fleshed out). Don't give up yet

at least make page numbers a reward for donater or sell in hath perk please

This post has been edited by chzx000: Nov 3 2022, 15:10

Well, I was about to post a lengthy reply as to my grievances with the update/change, but since it's been admitted that we're being treated as though we're just "brigadeering" and that we're being ignored at this point, I'll keep it relatively brief.

I understand the reasons for the change, but you're vastly overestimating the effort the average user will want to go through on this site, or in general. You're genuinely letting your position as the ones responsible for implementing the change cloud your judgement as to how easy or manageable it will be for a layman to get used to it and use it.

Even ignoring the repeated mentions of the page numbers, you're being met with dozens of people telling you that the changes you've stealth-implemented are confusing, not user-friendly, and rely on knowledge/experience that many people do not have and will not be willing to gain simply to use one website they may visit on occasion.

This will likely get ignored, as well. But this is simply the truth of the matter, that is now being echoed by me and presumably others that will post later on.

Note that I'm not speaking on behalf of anyone and just my thoughts on it.

The reply to the vast majority of the posts would be identical, and were addressed in the first pages of the thread.

I don't know how the backend works, no one in this thread (including those calling it bullshit) does except Tenboro. What I do know however, is that a lot of time and effort was spent on it, and I'm pretty confident that he'd have not done something dislike just for shits and giggles. The search overall is much more improved over the previous, but sometimes you can't have everything, and if you don't get everything, then there's probably a reason for it. If the previous way could work (and bearing in mind, it'd only get worse as we get more content), there wouldn't be a reason to have changed it to begin with.

There have been bugs reported that are being fixed, and a function to try and alleviate the biggest concern is being coded.

Given the option between waiting several seconds to even a minute for pages to load and what you've implemented now, I'd take the prior in a heartbeat.

I'm sure you and some others would, but I also expect if the site suddenly started taking 1 minute on every single search, the number of complaints for it would dwarf the ones here. Even more so if some searches outright fail with ever increasing frequency until it just stops working altogether.

So my favourites are sorted by favourite time, not upload time. This is much preferable to me because I have vague recollection of when I favourite something (not like a date but in relation to other favourited works). This GID thing is objectively and inarguably useless for this. The """page""" numbers are two completely arbitrary numbers because the upload date of the gallery can be literally anything. There is absolutely no way to chunk through other than click multiple times. Favourites are definitely small enough to have traditional page numbers without any impact to performance, whatsoever.

Also, how is anybody expected to know the date something is uploaded in the first place? Works aren't all posted the day something releases. And people don't always name or tag galleries fully. I'm constantly searching by artist, skipping to the release date, and seeing newer ones to be sure. So now I'm supposed to also guess an arbitrary number in the URL, on a mobile browser, multiple times first?

- The "Your default filters removed..." message is now more consistent and specifically counts all galleries filtered by your default uploader, tag and language search filter settings. (When using both filters and exclusions and a gallery would have been removed by both, it is counted as an exclusion.)

Maybe it's related to something else but when clicking "[Disable Filters]", searches now include excluded languages. This seems like quite a large mistake given the settings for excluded languages stating, "Note that matching galleries will never appear regardless of your search query." For instance, if I want to browse a certain artist's works and want to see what my filters excluded from showing, I'm now barraged by results in other languages that I don't want to see.

When I search with tag filter disabled now, all the galleries that appear as a result no longer have the (normally hidden) tag in red in their interface. This is makes it very confusing to figure out which galleries appeared now and which didn't. Is this temporary or will it be a permanent thing? I very much preferred the old system.

Just wanted to add that this is indeed broken for me as well. Often times I just want to see what galleries have been excluded because I exclude a lot of tags and some galleries are less contentious than others. Without galleries showing what tag caused a gallery to be filtered not only makes it very confusing to tell what galleries were added, but it also makes it very arduous to see why they were filtered at all since it means needing to manually read all of the tags a gallery might have.

This post has been edited by Natewolfblade: Nov 3 2022, 15:11

Maybe it's related to something else but when clicking "[Disable Filters]", searches now include excluded languages. This seems like quite a large mistake given the settings stating, "Note that matching galleries will never appear regardless of your search query." For instance, if I want to browse a certain artist's works and want to see what my filters excluded from showing, I'm now barraged by results in other languages that I don't want to see.
Just wanted to add that this is indeed broken for me as well. Often times I just want to see what galleries have been excluded because I exclude a lot of tags and some galleries are less contentious than others. Without galleries showing what tag caused a gallery to be filtered not only makes it very confusing to tell what galleries were added, but it also makes it very arduous to see why they were filtered at all since it means needing to manually read all of the tags a gallery might have.

The disable filters button effects all filters, but you can manually disable individual filters by clicking "Show Advanced Options". There's an option to disable filters for language, uploader, and tags, in any combination you want.

I'm sure you and some others would, but I also expect if the site suddenly started taking 1 minute on every single search, the number of complaints for it would dwarf the ones here. Even more so if some searches outright fail with ever increasing frequency until it just stops working altogether.

That's not how it would go, though. It wouldn't be 'sudden'. As the page count increases, the search time increases. It would be a gradual transition from 'snappy' to 'submit search, get a snack', and as such, it would be more like that old adage about boiling a frog. The only reason it would be sudden to anyone is if a brand-new user, or one who had left for a long time, came in without getting acclimated to the long wait times, and even then, they'd probably understand why it takes so long if they glanced at the page counter and saw the comically huge end number.

This post has been edited by Woodwind Bob: Nov 3 2022, 15:18

I'm not actually reading this thread anymore due to the heavy brigadeering.

Even if you say what you no longer read I still want to write to try persuade you. I really don't know how your or most of sites works. I also don't know if you get anything from your sites. Is it your passion project or means of make money? Is it some change on side or your main source of income I don't know any of it. But I know what while your sites is one of the most popular on net they are not irreplaceable. People go to E-hentai not only because they are biggest but because they convenient and easy to use. What you did is convenient for you and not for user. There are dozens of hentai sites which people didn't use the because they are smaller but now you made them infinitely more attractive because how unwieldy navigation became. People don't just go to biggest place they go to most convenient. If you think what people don't have are choice and "its your way or highway" please think again. As I said you sites not irreplaceable and there can be people who can just recreate your sites or third party developers who can make external search engine and reap benefits. Of course as total amateur in site creation I can be wrong in that but what I an sure about what if you keep this changes you risk lose sizeable portion of your viewers. But if you don't care for any of this, well I guess there nothing I or others can do but to go search for more convenient to use site.

This post has been edited by Mayriad: Nov 3 2022, 17:13

Note that I'm not speaking on behalf of anyone and just my thoughts on it.

The reply to the vast majority of the posts would be identical, and were addressed in the first pages of the thread.

I don't know how the backend works, no one in this thread (including those calling it bullshit) does except Tenboro. What I do know however, is that a lot of time and effort was spent on it, and I'm pretty confident that he'd have not done something dislike just for shits and giggles. The search overall is much more improved over the previous, but sometimes you can't have everything, and if you don't get everything, then there's probably a reason for it. If the previous way could work (and bearing in mind, it'd only get worse as we get more content), there wouldn't be a reason to have changed it to begin with.

There have been bugs reported that are being fixed, and a function to try and alleviate the biggest concern is being coded.
I'm sure you and some others would, but I also expect if the site suddenly started taking 1 minute on every single search, the number of complaints for it would dwarf the ones here. Even more so if some searches outright fail with ever increasing frequency until it just stops working altogether.

Springing it on people with no warning at all was NOT the way to go, especially when he did it in the middle of the night when most of the active users in this forum were off in dream land to slow the reception was also a shitty move don't gimme a lower traffic excuse, and now choosing to stick his head in the sand with his fingers in his ears and refusing to listen to criticisms while acting like it's just an army of bots review bombing his stunt makes it look worse.

There are multiple gold stars users, and annual award uploaders in this thread, should their thoughts and opinions be tossed to the side as well?

And this is how you will achieve that not only normies, but also the old hard users of this site will migrate to one of the mirror sites

Bug: Advanced Options set sometimes do not carry over to Next page it seems.
E.g. checking just 5Star minimum rating does not work. Additionally checking "require gallery torrent" DOES work for next pages. Cannot tell which ones break or make it work.

edit: as an ~11year lurker i think that green bar thingy to search is a nice compromise, as long as its bug free and solid.

This post has been edited by diablo888: Nov 3 2022, 15:42

The disable filters button effects all filters, but you can manually disable individual filters by clicking "Show Advanced Options". There's an option to disable filters for language, uploader, and tags, in any combination you want.

Thanks for this, I didn't consider that the disable filters button would count for everything ^^; . I would have been worried if there wasn't still the option under the advanced setting for disabling filters by language, uploader, and tag individually.

It means that the list paging will be based on gid as a "cursor" rather than a paginated n results per page one. The benefit is that if you performed a search/filter, the list that you generate will be sure to not be cached in a way that certain entries are skipped or doubled in successive paging (i.e. one gallery appears at the end of page 1 results and at the start of page 2 results). This cursor pagination scheme is beneficial for database tables that get updated every so often, making sure that the current filter you queried has a complete set of results properly paged. That and the lower resource cost of querying through pages has the tradeoff of not being able to jump at a specific page of query list of the older "limit/offset" custom querying.

I'm personally for this scheme. There's not much sense to jump to around page 90 of a search query right off the bat. If you want to track where you are in your custom query, this gid cursor search does a better job of being sure you're on the right result. It will be kinda inconvenient to have to use the browser bookmark for tracking it so it will be nice for example to be able to save the "gid cursor" in tag filters for convenience's sake.

I understand the benefits, many here do. But, like Ive said in that post and in another one, its ludicrous to expect people to know how to avance in "pages" using IDs, page numbers were arbitrary yes, but ID numbers are worse especially if they reach the millions. No warning, no explanation on how It works and now calling criticism brigadeering, this update is doomed to kill a portión if the userbase. Like how I asked about searching in upload date ranges or the user Who has worked on a solution for locating IDs, and on top of that the Bugs related to tags, its half baked, no one wants to be forced to beta test. Even if GID search proves to be vastly superior It should be understandable why people are mad.

This post has been edited by negavamas: Nov 3 2022, 15:43