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How is the user supposed to know the ID from a specific time period? This is something only the people behind the site know, not us.

How is the user supposed to know the page number for a specific time period?

Just guess the GID until you find it, same as you did with page numbers. Then once you have it, it'll work with all searches (if it doesn't, it's because there were no results in that year anyway, same as with a page search), because it'll always take you as close to that gallery as possible, regardless of other tags, or if that gallery is present, and regardless of new galleries being added.

This post has been edited by Shank: Nov 2 2022, 13:21

I don't think anything changed here. The tag should show up if it's flagged and it wasn't crowded out by other tags.

Oh, that's strange. It's definitely not overcrowding since I only have 3 watched tags on, but the former-red tags don't show up anymore. In the screenshot down below for example, it should have the "-furry" tag in red but it doesn't show up anymore. I hope it's not a bad-timed coincidence on my part ahah.

[imgur.com] Example (mild NSFW)

I cant see the inside of the gallery after clicking it, it only shows blank space at where the images should be, this obviously a bug, can you look into it ? i have to actually click the image(the blank rectangle space) to be able to see it. I cant read an anthology like this :<

Is it possible to return the old interface? Even for someone? Terribly uncomfortable! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

A question: I don't understand the technical aspect of this, but how is clicking 'next' 50 times less computationally expensive than jumping to gallery page 50?

I think it's clear that users have a need for tools that allow deep navigation, while the site has need to limit functionality to something sustainable in terms of (computational? technical? monetary?) cost. It would be good if we knew the exact situation, otherwise this whole discussion will only end in people complaining about worse user experience, which the other side can only adress with proposed workarounds (which are by their nature always worse user experience, solving nothing in the process)

It could be, if there were far more than 50 pages. Most sites with page navigation limit you to very few results (i.e. nyaa or google) or stops you from navigating too deep (i.e. boorus), and there are good reasons for that.

Like I said, I'm aware that 3rd party tools will have to work around the lack of pagenumber addressing, but it is what it is. It's just not computationally feasible to provide deep pagenumber addressing in search results with hundreds of thousands of results. The old search engine was struggling badly with it, where many results took several seconds to generate, and it sometimes just fell over and died due to running out of RAM.

How is the user supposed to know the page number for a specific time period?

Just guess the GID until you find it, same as you did with page numbers. Then once you have it, it'll work with all but the most niche tag searches, because it'll always take you as close to that gallery as possible, regardless of other tags, or if that gallery is present, and regardless of new galleries being added.

at least the page number we can get more result at a time

It could be, if there were far more than 50 pages. Most sites with page navigation limit you to very few results (i.e. nyaa) or stops you from navigating too deep (i.e. boorus), and there are good reasons for that.

Like I said, I'm aware that 3rd party tools will have to work around the lack of pagenumber addressing, but it is what it is. It's just not computationally feasible to provide deep pagenumber addressing in search results with hundreds of thousands of results. The old search engine was struggling badly with it, where many results tool several seconds to generate and sometimes just fell over and died due to running out of RAM.

Sorry if I'm wrong but won this just increase the number of people who needlessly increase the site traffic through the use of 3rd party tool? So doesn't it make more sense to implement a somewhat limited functionality page selector?

How is the user supposed to know the page number for a specific time period?

Just guess the GID until you find it, same as you did with page numbers. Then once you have it, it'll work with all but the most niche tag searches, because it'll always take you as close to that gallery as possible, regardless of other tags, or if that gallery is present, and regardless of new galleries being added.

Saying "Just guess" and hoping random numbers work out isn't an intuitive way to parse through a specific timeframe. If there were a date threshold on the search engine that we could use to better narrow down our choices, then I can see the benefits of this redesign, but as it stands this isn't an upgrade. If we're going to live with this, we need these instructions to be made clear cut and easily learnable, like a prompt in the search bar or a place to input the GID on the page itself rather than the URL like some ARG. Explain how to use it at all times at the top of the page or something.

Saying "Just guess" and hoping random numbers work out isn't an intuitive way to parse through a specific timeframe.

How did you do this before with page numbers?

This post has been edited by Shank: Nov 2 2022, 13:32

How did you do this before with page numbers?

Having to fiddle with the URL to do something you could before with a button is not an improvement on the user side.

What the hell kind of backwards update is this?

Just use a GID from that period, it doesn't matter if its not in the results. Took about 10 seconds /?f_search=ahegao&next=800000

It's even better, because that will always be positioned at the same place, without new galleries moving it further back, you can just bookmark the 1 url and not worry about it like you used to with page numbers.

it's ok.but,the GID is too long to remenber and i don't want to add bookmark every time before leaving.
so,i think i shall learn some new skill to adapt this new system.
i think people want some "deirct dump to where i want to go" function,to instead of enter the URL with GID in address bar,which is really hard to realize.

Not saying the update is terrible, far from it. This update would have immensely improved the QoL of this site for regular user if the page selector stays

EDIT: Just realized not even once did 10B reply to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

This post has been edited by astral02: Nov 2 2022, 13:37

I think something like a tooltip or collapsible field on the search page labelled GID Date Help with a list of which GID corresponds to January of each year (or May for 2007) would be good, possibly along with a Jump to GID box in between the Prev and Next buttons because at the moment you have to go and edit the URL after pressing Next to change the GID jump.

Just use a GID from that period, it doesn't matter if its not in the results. Took about 10 seconds /?f_search=ahegao&next=800000

It's even better, because that will always be positioned at the same place, without new galleries moving it further back, you can just bookmark the 1 url and not worry about it like you used to with page numbers.

And the user is supposed to know what GID corresponds to what... how exactly? As it stands the only thing even displaying it at the moment is the address bar unless I'm missing something. That means the only way to find something by GID is if I've already found it. There has got to be a better way of doing things than that.

How come when I look up artist:"kurosu gatari$" I get 20 something results, but when I look up group:"doll play$" I end up with 380, with nearly all of them also having the artist's tag

By page number we can at least have a rough guess of which year the page is corresponding to, but searching by GID alone is like trying to win lottery. panda isn't a small site with only few thousand of gallery

today ehentai look so off today while felt nothing changed

now I know why

I think something like a tooltip or collapsible field on the search page labelled GID Date Help with a list of which GID corresponds to January of each year (or May for 2007) would be good, possibly along with a Jump to GID box in between the Prev and Next buttons because at the moment you have to go and edit the URL after pressing Next to change the GID jump.

Some guidance would indeed be very useful if this change is final.

This post has been edited by negavamas: Nov 2 2022, 13:47

Please tell me this site is just testing the water with the new updates