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Nov 3 2022, 01:12
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omega necross
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QUOTE(niaktru @ Nov 3 2022, 01:08)  honestly i'd prefer dealing with performance issues if it meant having the the page numbers back, this is a downgrade imo. not as bad as sankaku's bs, but i really hate this
pretty much this, it was never the fastest website to exist, but paging in a gallery browsing site is such a basic feature you just need it, doesn't matter if the page doesn't load at 0.0000000001 ms, im fine waiting a second or two like before
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Nov 3 2022, 01:12
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Wuselbra
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My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined...
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Nov 3 2022, 01:24
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novent
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Hi, I don't understand why the page numbers in galleries suddenly disappeared? When browsing favorites or doing a regular search it was really convenient to jump not from one page to another but to jump 2/5/10/20 pages depending on what I'm looking for. In the regular gallery it's just a matter of "let see how much I missed" and browsing it, sometimes I just remember it was ~n weeks ago and try to find it by refining the page numbers. When doing a research it's mostly that I want to skip time and maybe hit a period i forgot about or never saw. Then in the favorites... this is the worst of all. Favorites imo are mostly made to find a fav artist/circle/work when you need it for various reasons. Sometimes it's just "okay what was the name of this circle that was good about this tag, I don't remember it but it was early in my favorites". And now you can't just type the tag and jump to a certain area in your favorites, you have to click dozens of times and wait for the server to reply between each click. It's like we have to navigate in our house with closed eyes :/ I can feel the perfs are better but honestly the user experience of browsing the galleries just vanished, and this is one of the basic feature (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I'm sorry I post only for this negative feedback, I know it must be a lot of work to maintain the service, but that's mostly one of the first very basic feature everyone uses on EH 😑 also I'm not sure I need any other new feature that was listed so far.
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Nov 3 2022, 01:36
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Larvaska
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QUOTE(O_Sakana_Tengoku @ Nov 2 2022, 19:17)  In that case, it would be best if someone can update the wiki with GIDs corresponding to particular years and months. Or suggest an increment in GID that would correspond to "next 50 pages" (doesn't work with tag filtering though).
This is a good idea. I don't know how GIDs works, but if the numbers are created via specific methods (maybe it translates date to a number, or something like that), a detailed "how-it-works" page of GIDs can help in making an addon to help navigation, without touching the backend.
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Nov 3 2022, 01:43
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novent
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QUOTE(Larvaska @ Nov 3 2022, 02:36)  This is a good idea. I don't know how GIDs works, but if the numbers are created via specific methods (maybe it translates date to a number, or something like that), a detailed "how-it-works" page of GIDs can help in making an addon to help navigation, without touching the backend.
Or just add a way to jump to a specific time. And add the "current GID time" on each page for us to see where/when we are currently. But this doesn't work for favorites in any case.
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Nov 3 2022, 01:47
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black_sabbath
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QUOTE(omega necross @ Nov 2 2022, 19:12)  pretty much this, it was never the fastest website to exist, but paging in a gallery browsing site is such a basic feature you just need it, doesn't matter if the page doesn't load at 0.0000000001 ms, im fine waiting a second or two like before
This: I never expected the site to load incredibly fast because of how much content it has, but doing away the basic necessitiy of a what a gallery browsing site has only makes browsing much more complicated now when most users probably won't be bothering to learn how GID works. At least consider a compromise of enabling a "classic mode" for those who prefer what worked before, even if it was at the "detriment" of site performance.
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Nov 3 2022, 01:49
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armagedan
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If I am going through my favorites list and I want to go to a random page or a purposely randomly selected page, how am I to do this with the new system?
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Nov 3 2022, 02:04
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sureok1
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I hate this. This is horrible. Please put page numbers back.
Half my favorites are also gone due to takedowns. I used to list them down and reference them elsewhere even if the galleries themselves weren't accessible. This update needs to be rolled back. This is going to be CATASTROPHIC.
This post has been edited by sureok1: Nov 3 2022, 02:33
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Nov 3 2022, 02:07
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ThatDandyMan
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Main issue I have is that, not only did you do this overnight with no warning, you never gave any instructions for users to even use a GID. Hell I didn't know what a GID till I figured it out reading this thread and I'm willing to bet 90% of your users don't know what a GID is, furthermore, requiring people to change the URL to narrow down a search? You're a fucking porn archive, people come here with horny brain, they ain't gonna spend 20 minutes guessing where that one doujin they wanted to fap to went, they'll go elsewhere. UX should be your #1 goal and you just decided to shoot yourselves in the foot with this new method. You should've tested this new search method MONTHS in advance and works with feedback instead of doing some fly by night changes. Bring back the old system, and spend the next few months figuring out some way to make searches less demanding while not sacrificing so much of the UX.
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Nov 3 2022, 02:09
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HyPeR92
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Please bring back page counter..
Its basically unusable now..
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Nov 3 2022, 02:09
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phasers
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Yeah, shouldnt there atleast be a warning, and maybe a guide teaching us horny plebs on how to even use the "GID" and how it works...
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Nov 3 2022, 02:10
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voodoo_soul
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The forum now has a better system of paging than the actual site does. Why would you do this?
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Nov 3 2022, 02:20
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kaliningradh
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Who thought removing page numbers was a good idea? The website is unusable now. I can't even find my favorite older galleries, i seriously hope you'll reconsider this new system because it's really bad. Or at least give us a "legacy" interface to bring it back.
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Nov 3 2022, 02:29
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Floripes
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QUOTE(sureok1 @ Nov 3 2022, 02:04)  I hate this. This is horrible. Please put page numbers back.
My exact feeling about this update.
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Nov 3 2022, 02:32
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kromix
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Terrible update. No one wants "pages" taken away. You "solved" a non existant problem and created several for the user.
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Nov 3 2022, 02:41
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rick-kun
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I don't get the change, i mean, i don't know a single site who would remove the page numbers, this just makes things more difficult for the users.
Now, if there is a limit to the pages, then you could make is so if the galley searched have too many pages for the server to hold you use no numbers, if there is not, use them.
For example, the favorites page, if you have like 30 pages of favorites there, is it that impactful to use the numbers? and yeah, i know i can click 30 times, but is that really user friendly?
I understand that the numbers could cause issues, but with all due respect this "solution" is a complete disaster
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Nov 3 2022, 02:46
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Ace_Kuper
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 2 2022, 17:38) 
If you explain why you need to go to page 50, I'll tell you how it's intended to work with the new search engine.
Please explain to me how i'm supposed to go to Page 3 or even Page 10 without just clicking next multiple times? If i search by the author and said author has 20 pages + I Know the stuff i read was somewhere in the 10 range, what GID i'm supposed to type in now? Let's take Rocket Monkey for example, just the first author i found with enough of NEXT presses for this. Has meager 394 results. But that's already 16 pages aka potentially in the 9-11 click range. Well, the first is " next=2243052" when the next one jumps to " next=2102794" and third is next=2079780 So off the top of your head what number i have to type to get the regular one click page 9? It's next=1054888 and there is no real way to get that at all. There is enough author with a lot of works there this would be an issue. Or just a simple case of "I'm not checking the sight daily or even weekly". Now i got to see if there is something new and I somewhat remember the date i last time checked my favorite tags." I just click one button go 5 or 10 or 20 pages deep and check if i recognize any works here or the actual date. Now i can work backwards from there. It solves multiple search issues with a simple button click on a number. THis new system overcomplicates or pretty much makes any of that impossible to do in a simple way. This post has been edited by Ace_Kuper: Nov 3 2022, 03:08
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Nov 3 2022, 02:52
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bahki
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I actually wouldn't mind using the GID if it was actually incorporated into the user interface, having to fiddle with the URL to navigate a webpage instead of interacting with the webpage itself just feels like no real thought was put into how a user would actually use the webpage.
Though I imagine if you made something that actually sorted the galleries by GID that was on the user interface, it would essentially just be the old paging system so I'm guessing that's out of the question? Also GID seems to be good if you're just going to the front page and just going to random galleries without any search filters, but as soon as you add filters using GID makes it hard to refine your search compared to the old page system:
i.e. I could search "big_breast" and yes the old system limited it to the first 100k while the new system allows all 300k+ to be shown, but who here actually would just use a single filter? once you add almost another other filter to the search it falls under that 100k threshold so that problem is already solved. Though funnily enough when you add more than one search term the new system doesn't even give you a number of results, it just says "many" which isn't helpful at all.
This just feels like common sense wasn't used for the implementation of this update, I mean I can't really think of any other database site that curates images that DOESN'T use a paging system for the user to sort their searches.
Honestly this just seems like one of those situations where back-end optimization isn't worth ruining the user experience.
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Nov 3 2022, 03:05
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MikukoAya
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What is annoying is that things like search low power tags now only searches low power tags based on the results instead of including them.
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