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post Nov 2 2022, 18:12
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Man, I rarely post on here but the only times I do is because of my disappointment with the new updates.

On one hand, we have some useful ones like improved searching especially the exclude function. A good addition.
On the other hand, we have the removal of pages which is a bad thing. I always check the first few pages for the latest posts and jump back and forth to get them. If you're not going to have a page number function then at least make a front page with all the latest updates for the day/week/month.

Also, it makes it harder for me to micromanage my time to search these things. When I have to browse through roughly 50-60 pages to look for English-translated stuff like Childhood Friend, Girlfriend, Wife, etc. (because there's no tags for them) I'd like to know the current page number and the last page so I can either continue through to the end or wait for the next day. I don't want to sit here hoping I'll reach the last page of my search then end up spending hours finishing it.

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post Nov 2 2022, 18:15
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I'll ask again has anyone with a lot of favorites figured out how to GID jump in favorites, it seems not possible like it is with regular searches?
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:17
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I think page numbers are the most important invention of the webpage age
and you delete it
That not fun
Just diffcult to use
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:19
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QUOTE(noones @ Nov 2 2022, 09:09) *

It seems that "unalived" content is no longer in favorites for me as well. The only time I've ever used that is to deal with expunge's so it was nice to have, but really not a huge issue if it's intended/can't be fixed.

Also the lack of pages is really not that big a deal. Just keep scrolling til you're done...scrolling?

It was at least useful to know why I couldn't find something specific I was looking for and to not spend tons of time trying to keep digging for things that I knew I had seen before.

As for scrolling...no? If you have like 100+ pages, scrolling through one at a time from only front or back is kind of ridiculous.
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:20
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Removing the numbers for pages is just not that great imo. I hope they changes are reversed.
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:21
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I understand the reason behind the pagination change, even if it is a bit of a pain for the end user.

What would be a nice feature to make searching with the new system more manageable would be a way to favorite a search and its position to come back to later. I know you could just do this with browser favorites, but that can be really fragile depending on your setup and also makes it completely non-portable between devices.

Since searches are now indexed by GID, maybe something that piggybacks off the existing favorites system, with the search terms stored in a favnote could be done. Though I have no idea how adding that for every user would expand back end storage.

Also, was 5 inclusion terms the limit beforehand? With the inclusion of OR searches, 5 inclusion terms seems really limiting.
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:27
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why the fuck is page number got removed? that literally doesn't make any sense at all
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:29
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Please also remove page numbers from forum threads. If people want to navigate 12-page forum threads like this, they can use the Next Page button or type in the post ID range. No need to have page numbers in the forums.

I, for one, applaud this change for liberating us from the plague that is GUI. I eagerly look forward to the site transitioning completely to a command-line interface.

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post Nov 2 2022, 18:31
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Oh man, I was on page 180 something of my favorites and now everything refreshed and I'll have to click next page for over 180 times to find where I was at hahahaha. How am I supposed to find things at the the last pages now? am i really expected to bookmark every single thing and organize it myself if it is at the end of who knows how many pages?

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if I click next too fast it freezes up and takes longer to load the page to. Well this is quite the update.

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post Nov 2 2022, 18:31
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QUOTE(Rookierookie @ Nov 2 2022, 17:29) *

Please also remove page numbers from forum threads. If people want to navigate 12-page forum threads like this, they can use the Next Page button or type in the post ID range. No need to have page numbers in the forums.

Yeah, it's very easy and intuitive!
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:36
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why delete pages? i think its just remove the most useful function
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:36
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I understand the implementation and am somewhat content except:

1.
Considering all the complaints regarding favorites, one would think page indexing would be a given.
The current system needs a more intuitive way to jump to a GID or Date range. I don't think expecting the average user to "guess" is a great solution. As it is now it's objectively not user-friendly no matter how you spin it.
Ideally though, we'd still have page indexing.

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Expunged results shouldn't be separated.

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"Found many results." should be an actual number.

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 2 2022, 05:16) *

While it knows how many there are of each tag, it does not know the extent of the overlap before it actually intersects the indexes, which is very expensive for a large result. So while it might be able to show an upper or lower bound for some additional types of search queries, it might be very inaccurate and counter-intuitive. And to be frank, I'll rather not be screening "it shows there are x results but I'm getting way less!!!111" threads for the rest of my time.

A rough guesstimate is better than a non-descript "many results". If there are 200k actual results but it's off by 50k I don't think 99% of people care. People are just referencing that number to get a rough idea of what's under a search.
And worrying about x results complaint threads is just silly.
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:38
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I just noticed this today after logging in.

WTH is the rationale behind removing page numbers? How does this improve the UI or user experience? This makes checking for mistagged galleries worse if anything, and requires more steps to select a cartain range of search results. And having this apply to favourites as well is just downright insulting since it doesn't even show the number of results.

Can you please stop messing with the UI? It's "fine" as is, there is no need to further degrade usability.

If this in fact due to the size of index becoming "too computationally intensive", maybe having people mass-upload random artist galleries from other hosting sites isn't such a smart idea to begin with. Or random collections of images, period. I rather have a site with a working search function, and I'd wager most other user would as well. I don't really care for toplist whoring, but if it actively degrades the site maybe addressing this might be the smarter choice

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post Nov 2 2022, 18:38
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I'm sure this helps in the back end, but sweet baby jesus this is a nightmare for the user side.
I don't know what you were thinking blindsiding us with this, but at least a small guide on how in the hell we're supposed to use gallery IDs to help us search would be nice. I went from being able to easily skip through if I'm looking for older content, to mashing a button and hoping that I eventually find the right time frame.
I highly doubt you're going to go back, but my lord at least help us out a little.
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:39
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this change might be an improvement for backend stuff but for end-user this is definitely not
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:40
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 2 2022, 13:19) *

It could be, if there were far more than 50 pages. Most sites with page navigation limit you to very few results (i.e. nyaa or google) or stops you from navigating too deep (i.e. boorus), and there are good reasons for that.

Like I said, I'm aware that 3rd party tools will have to work around the lack of pagenumber addressing, but it is what it is. It's just not computationally feasible to provide deep pagenumber addressing in search results with hundreds of thousands of results. The old search engine was struggling badly with it, where many results took several seconds to generate, and it sometimes just fell over and died due to running out of RAM.


Is there a way to meet in the middle like maybe? Instead of doing deep page numbers we can get a certain number of pages to navigate after a search is done. Like maybe 1-10 pages everything after that we have to do it manually?
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:42
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No page number? Now that's scary. A bit late for Halloween joke though.
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:44
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这次更新对用户而言,没有丝毫良性改变,只有麻烦和重创。
2K500多页的搜索进度,直接重制为1,怎么搞,这ID对应的算术我做不来,也不愿做。
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:45
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Welp, looks like they're just gonna sit back and wait for people to stop complaining, clearly they are completely uninterested in what the actual userbase thinks about this, considering they didn't even give any kind of heads up or ask about any kind of user input in advance.

Guess we'll just have to hope someone who actually has a basic grasp on UI design will develop an alternative some day, because the site is basically completely ruined now, a vast archive which you can't actually search.
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post Nov 2 2022, 18:45
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I dont think I ever posted something in this forum but I want to express my disappointment in the removal of the page numbers. Lets hope that the new improvements for the search function compensate for this atrocity.
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