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Nov 17 2022, 10:43
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(Bring Stabity @ Nov 17 2022, 04:32)  Supposedly the site will eventually implode under the growing amount of content if it keeps pagination but this seriously doesn't sound like a problem we should be having this soon when sites like Gelbooru can have 7-10 times more entries and still keep its page count and everything. As has been pointed out repeatedly, the big difference between boorus and EH is that boorus do not have to deal with hybrid title/tag searches, only tags alone. Which is comparatively much easier to handle. As has also been pointed out repeatedly, while Gelbooru provides pagination for the full range, you cannot actually navigate more than 20000 results (that is images, not pages) deep into navigation regardless of whether you are searching or not, at least not without a paid account. So while you may think that you are making some sort of point, you really aren't. QUOTE(aklfhl @ Nov 17 2022, 09:42)  I don't want to search "Chinese translated", "漢化" is just a common word for testing. I'm pretty sure it's very common, a lot of translators will leave some words about themselves in uploader's comment. Words may be considered searchable/indexable by my code, but not be considered searchable/indexable by the database engine, in which case it won't be comment-searchable if it involves an index lookup. This only affects comments, everything else uses my custom indexes or doesn't use indexes at all.
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Nov 17 2022, 10:57
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aklfhl
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 17 2022, 16:43)  Words may be considered searchable/indexable by my code, but not be considered searchable/indexable by the database engine, in which case it won't be comment-searchable if it involves an index lookup. This only affects comments, everything else uses my custom indexes or doesn't use indexes at all.
When words are unsearchable, will it just return 0 or return wrong results? I've noticed some other words have this issue too. QUOTE(Necromusume @ Nov 17 2022, 08:11)  comment:"☆" Found 1,181,398 results.
None of the ones I checked actually have ☆ in the uploader comment. It's also supposed to get "Some of your keywords are too short for name searches" but it doesn't.
When search comment:"A的", it shows 2 results. https://e-hentai.org/g/2317952/8305f13cd8/https://e-hentai.org/g/1414421/ade2401c80/The second one does have "A的" in its uploader comment, but the first one doesn't. This post has been edited by aklfhl: Nov 17 2022, 11:06
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Nov 17 2022, 11:01
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(aklfhl @ Nov 17 2022, 09:57)  When words are unsearchable, will it just return 0 or return wrong results? I've noticed some other words have this issue too. The comment:"☆" example should fail the search but it looks like it's just silently ignored, I'll look into it.
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Nov 17 2022, 11:06
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Chunga
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I just realized the 200 search results per page hath perk just disappear, no hath refunds I guess?
This post has been edited by Chunga: Nov 17 2022, 11:07
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Nov 17 2022, 11:11
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aklfhl
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QUOTE(Chunga @ Nov 17 2022, 17:06)  I just realized the 200 search results per page hath perk just disappear, no hath refunds I guess?
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 2 2022, 18:09)  - The max number of results per page is now 100. Paging Enlargement III was removed and will be refunded Soon™.
Soon™
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Nov 17 2022, 11:14
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Chunga
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QUOTE(aklfhl @ Nov 17 2022, 03:11)  Soon™
oh, my bad, didn't saw it on the front page news and this shit is 60 pages deep in now nvm, is under Other Changes This post has been edited by Chunga: Nov 17 2022, 11:15
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Nov 17 2022, 14:21
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(aklfhl @ Nov 17 2022, 09:57)  When search comment:"A的", it shows 2 results. https://e-hentai.org/g/2317952/8305f13cd8/https://e-hentai.org/g/1414421/ade2401c80/The second one does have "A的" in its uploader comment, but the first one doesn't. Dunno why it returns a mismatched result, but that's an issue with the database, not the search engine, so it might get fixed at some point depending on upstream fixes. I have seen some unicode weirdness like that before, but it should be fairly rare.
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Nov 17 2022, 14:23
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ronhin
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Uhh what the f just happened to my pages clicker and how do I turn it back
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Nov 17 2022, 15:43
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srsbsns
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Sorry to bring this up again, but it would be nice to at least know if the new behavior for this is intended, or if it's indeed a bug. It's been bugging me more than I would've expected. QUOTE(srsbsns @ Nov 9 2022, 04:02)  Just a quick bug(?) I noticed, but tags that are set to "hidden" are not shown below thumbnails anymore, when tags are being ignored in the search.
For example if I search for something and notice that 5 results are removed from the search due to filters, I could then tick the checkbox for "Disable default filters for: Tags" and quickly identify which galleries were previously hidden thanks to the little boxes below the gallery thumbnails.
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Nov 17 2022, 15:58
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(srsbsns @ Nov 17 2022, 14:43)  Sorry to bring this up again, but it would be nice to at least know if the new behavior for this is intended, or if it's indeed a bug. It's been bugging me more than I would've expected.
Just a quick bug(?) I noticed, but tags that are set to "hidden" are not shown below thumbnails anymore, when tags are being ignored in the search.
For example if I search for something and notice that 5 results are removed from the search due to filters, I could then tick the checkbox for "Disable default filters for: Tags" and quickly identify which galleries were previously hidden thanks to the little boxes below the gallery thumbnails. Hmm, no, that's not intended. Should be fixed now, let me know if you're still seeing that.
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Nov 17 2022, 16:02
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srsbsns
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 17 2022, 16:58)  Hmm, no, that's not intended. Should be fixed now, let me know if you're still seeing that.
Thank you, works exactly the way it used to be!
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Nov 17 2022, 17:13
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romanicyte
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QUOTE(ken59 @ Nov 17 2022, 00:11)  And its sometimes nice to just select a random page, and see what you liked in the past. I don't use it, but a random button wouldn't be a bad thing, I suppose, specially in the normal search and front page. This post has been edited by romanicyte: Nov 17 2022, 17:13
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Nov 17 2022, 18:00
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(ronhin @ Nov 17 2022, 12:23)  Uhh what the f just happened to my pages clicker and how do I turn it back It was changed to prevent the site blowing itself up. And you can't. Thank you for implementing date jumping, tenboro (and anyone else involved, if applicable). My main complaint (and suggested fix) have been implemented (overall more smoothly/cleanly than my proposal was, too), and so I am pretty much satisfied. I'd still like "jump back/forward one week" links so I don''t have to continually click the 'jump' thing, run the javascript to show the text entry field, and click or type in '1w' in the text field. But I wrote a user script that handles that on my end so it's just a suggestion. Also showing expunged galleries inline with non-expunged ones would be nice, but not strictly necessary. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Nov 17 2022, 19:27
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Nov 17 2022, 18:33
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Ichizon
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For all the sporadic negativity in this thread, I'll just say that I like the GID/date system better than the pages. It makes more sense than "pages" in a dynamic search. Pages is better fitted for finite galleries. I only miss being able to easily skip a few pages ahead when casually browsing, but that seems like an easy button add if Tenb wanted it (e.g. adding +1, +2, +3 next buttons).
I'd still still like to have the weak tags and expunged galleries search function like OR (both weak/strong or both visible/expunged when searching) rather than XOR though (either weak/strong or either visible/expunged), as I mentioned a page back. Perhaps as a permanent profile option.
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Nov 17 2022, 19:11
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Moonlight Rambler
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QUOTE(Ichizon @ Nov 17 2022, 16:33)  For all the sporadic negativity in this thread, I'll just say that I like the GID/date system better than the pages. It makes more sense than "pages" in a dynamic search. Pages is better fitted for finite galleries. I only miss being able to easily skip a few pages ahead when casually browsing, but that seems like an easy button add if Tenb wanted it (e.g. adding +1, +2, +3 next buttons). Not really too easy to add. You'd hit the same problem as we had before, where "+3 next" would require generating the next three "pages" worth of results (up to 300 results ahead if you have the perk to get 100 resulrs per "page") to get the starting GID. Well, I guess it is easy, but it's also relatively expensive for processing power and database I/O. Date searching is easier to implement because it can be done with "thunks" (pre-calculated numbers) and a faster lookup. "find the first gallery posted on April 19th of 2017" doesn't require doing a search with filters, just showing everything from the first gallery on that date onwards. So you can have a smaller "calendar" database giving the first GID of each day and implement it by looking up the number there. You don't have to find "the first gallery on april 19th of 2017 containing the tags f:kemonomimi and f:big breasts", since the first gallery to match that query must naturally come at some point after that starting GID for the day, even if it doesn't land exactly on that number. You just have to find the unconditional first GID of the day. (At least, that's my understanding. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.)QUOTE(Ichizon @ Nov 17 2022, 16:33)  I'd still still like to have the weak tags and expunged galleries search function like OR (both weak/strong or both visible/expunged when searching) rather than XOR though (either weak/strong or either visible/expunged), as I mentioned a page back. Perhaps as a permanent profile option. And as I mentioned one post above. This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Nov 17 2022, 19:22
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Nov 17 2022, 19:56
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Ichizon
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Nov 17 2022, 18:11)  Not really too easy to add. You'd hit the same problem as we had before, where "+3 next" would require generating the next three "pages" worth of results (up to 300 results ahead if you have the perk to get 100 resulrs per "page") to get the starting GID. Well, I guess it is easy, but it's also relatively expensive for processing power and database I/O.
The buttons don't necessarily have to calculate anything before you click them. The +3 button could fetch the next 3 tables when you press it, instead of having the user click "next" three times in a row. The buttons could also be like +1m, +6m and +1y, if they would go by date. But that would be a bit unhelpful in comparison, as some searches could have a lot of results where +1m might make sense, while more specific searches might not yield much new in even +6m. This isn't a must have for me though. Just an idea of something that could ease navigation.
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Nov 17 2022, 20:14
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Brufh
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QUOTE(Ichizon @ Nov 17 2022, 19:33)  For all the sporadic negativity in this thread, I'll just say that I like the GID/date system better than the pages. It makes more sense than "pages" in a dynamic search. Pages is better fitted for finite galleries. I only miss being able to easily skip a few pages ahead when casually browsing, but that seems like an easy button add if Tenb wanted it (e.g. adding +1, +2, +3 next buttons).
I'd still still like to have the weak tags and expunged galleries search function like OR (both weak/strong or both visible/expunged when searching) rather than XOR though (either weak/strong or either visible/expunged), as I mentioned a page back. Perhaps as a permanent profile option.
This isn't exactly what you want, but it allows for faster movement on the site, by skipping ahead by day instead of clicking Jump/Seek. (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/wGWhKjO.png) The script which adds the extra buttons.And the CSS Edit of it (as well as the default) by myself.
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Nov 17 2022, 20:31
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Ichizon
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QUOTE(Brufh @ Nov 17 2022, 19:14)  Nice ^^, Thanks! This post has been edited by Ichizon: Nov 17 2022, 20:31
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Nov 17 2022, 20:56
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hph01
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QUOTE(dragontamer8740 @ Nov 17 2022, 17:00)  It was changed to prevent the site blowing itself up. And you can't.
Page counter was logical, date jumping is just stupid and not even works XD. I tried with at my faves - with one category, where are 85 "galleries" with 2 page. Choosed a random time and after it I had 3 page. "Working as intended". (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) When you search for something you don't search "hey I want to see stuff from 2 years ago only", especially as the site is 15 years old. You never do this. Ever wanted to see stuff at Youtbe from one youtuber from a specific year? Never... I don't understand why always change something when you get a ton of complains and not even works. Like the new design from some years ago, which is still bad, as still giant everything compared to the original. (I know, checked with Wayback Machine) And after a ton of complains there aswell, there you added a "minimal+" view to get a similar look what was the original design. Just no logic here. You force something, many dislikes it, and you back down and try to make a bit of reversing, but not enough... Why there is no beta version with every new huge update? Like "here, you can see what we want to change in the near future. But if you don't like it, you can give feedback and go back use the older look". And find bugs. And you say, the page counter can't work. But you have 2378902 gallery at "first page" so still counting in a way. And if you go to page 2, then back to page 1 (< Prev) and again to Page 0, I saw 3 galeries. At Page 0! This is not even tested. I can find bugs in 5 min. Also at last page url: https://e-hentai.org/?prev=1, but next is https://e-hentai.org/?prev=269 and then https://e-hentai.org/?prev=475 and after it https://e-hentai.org/?prev=544. Not even logical for me how it is counting... Also page 1 is https://e-hentai.org/?next=2378908 but page 0 is https://e-hentai.org/?prev=2378906 How it became lower? So yeah, this is not working... Edit: Also page counter could work, if the last page is page 1 and the newer stuff is page "last number", even though sometimes there would be 4 gallery only at newest page. And galleries position hardcoded, like 1st gallery = pos 0, next pos 1 or something similar. But this time thing is just stupid and not works. This post has been edited by hph01: Nov 17 2022, 21:29
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Nov 17 2022, 21:31
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Ichizon
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QUOTE(hph01 @ Nov 17 2022, 19:56)  When you search for something you don't search "hey I want to see stuff from 2 years ago only", especially as the site is 15 years old. You never do this. Ever wanted to see stuff at Youtbe from one youtuber from a specific year? Never... You're not looking for galleries from 2 years ago. By going 2 years back, you are looking at galleries starting from 2 years ago and getting a full page of results from that date. By going forward in time, you'll get a full page of results ending with that date. Then "Prev" and "Next" just continues from that point of reference. It's the same as hitting something like "Page 25" in the old system, just that a page would have no point of reference like a date has. Though perhaps the Prev and Next buttons could be swapped if it refers to "GID" and "dates" instead of "pages". Not sure if people would find that more or less confusing though. I don't know why you'd see a page with only three results, but it could either be that you got a page with many hidden results, or you reached the end of the list (in which case just hit "Prev"). Scratch that, I misunderstood a bit. If you go by date to a gallery close to the end or beginning, you will start the search in a spot where you'll get less galleries on that page. E.g. if you show 50 galleries per page and the last 50 results of your search span 2015 and back to 2011, any date search before 2015 will get you less than 50 results. So then you can get 1 more page than if you didn't specify a date, because both your first and last page could show less than 50 results. To illustrate a bit: (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/5Cs0UT7.png) (Note, I know I made a small mistake saying "Page 4" in the last line. 100 newer results would create 4 additional pages, so then it would start at "Page 5".) QUOTE(hph01 @ Nov 17 2022, 19:56)  I don't understand why always change something when you get a ton of complains and not even works. I agree with the sentiment here, when a site changes just for the sake of change. If it becomes less user friendly and unfamiliar, it's bad. But in this specific case, as has been stated, the system did NOT work and was draining increasingly more server resources just for paging/searching, as it had to look up the entire database which is becoming large. An alternative would be to have search not show any results after the last few years, and old galleries only accessible through direct links and user pages. I'd much rather be able to find all galleries in my searches. This post has been edited by Ichizon: Nov 17 2022, 22:09
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