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Nov 16 2022, 19:42
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Tenboro

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Fixed an issue with internal stat generation that caused a short-lived stall like an hour ago, since a bunch of threads decided to start doing it at the same time. This is no longer possible. QUOTE(iMElLoN @ Nov 16 2022, 15:24)  Would you consider adding category search in Favorites? I mean people could filter their favorites with normal categories, like DOUJINSHI, COSPLAY, etc. Or we have to do it ourselves by using notes as a replacement? (For example, writing down notes like: #doujinshi, #cosplay for searching later.) I think it's a good way to get some random stuff out from a big fav and also a good way to narrow down the searching result when people want to find things out. Maybe, when I get around to redoing some stuff with the favorite system. This is getting pretty high on the priority list by now. QUOTE(iMElLoN @ Nov 16 2022, 15:24)  Is there a way to filter out all favs with notes right now? I remembered with the old UI, if I check "Notes" only and leave search box blank, I could get them all. With the new engine, I've tried favnote: or favnote:* but got the whole favs list, which means those aren't effective searches. That's one of those unintended features I didn't even realize existed. This should be quite doable, it would just need some sort of UI to do it, so see above. QUOTE(Shingen666 @ Nov 16 2022, 18:27)  However, since the search results are ordered not by the ID but by the "published" date, it causes some inconsistent behavior.
Could the sorting be changed to by-ID, so it doesn't have these jumping galleries?
Now TBH, since it's using the highest/lowest ID on the page instead of just first/last ID (that i think i've seen on some other website), then it seems that it doesn't cause any actual bugs like skipped search results, or possible loops, or whatever, but it's still unnecessarily confusing IMO. This is a known issue with how older galleries were created which will be corrected in the next few days, after I've untangled and removed all the old indexing code.
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Nov 16 2022, 19:44
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LittleSweetLoli
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Only thing that is bad IMO is lack of pages bar. I understand why it's gone, but I still don't like it.
Maybe possibility to switch between versions ? New one (which will be updated) and old one (no future updates but with pages bar) ?
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Nov 16 2022, 19:52
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romanicyte
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Can't we use 'desc:' (description) instead of 'comment:'?
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Nov 16 2022, 21:07
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Woodwind Bob
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Seems it's on E-H now. You did remember to add some kind of orienteering aid to the pageless system before you pushed it, right? (IMG:[ files.catbox.moe] https://files.catbox.moe/8dreb8.png) …For fuck's sake. Not even an inaccurate estimate of results, no progress bar, no scrobbler, no indication of position - nothing beyond jump/seek and the site telling me 'Good fucking luck finding anything'. Least the people who noticed it knew to come into this thread, complain, find a Greasemonkey script and make do. How are new people supposed to know to do that?
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Nov 16 2022, 21:16
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Ichizon
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I haven't been active on the forums lately, so I just saw the revamped search. While it's simpler and cleaner, it's does seem to lack some functionality I was using regularly.
I want to see expunged galleries alongside non-expunged galleries. Earlier, if I checked "Show expunged galleries", both would show up ("OR"). Now, I only get the expunged galleries with that option on, or only live galleries with it off (kinda like "XOR"). This leads to having to do two searches instead of a single search.
Also, is the low powered tags function gone? I seem to get low powered tags in anyway now, but I am not sure if I really am. I also liked keeping low powered tags in some searches, because often there's a reason why they were added, but removed due to low prevalence or some other site rule. It also helped in general search when finding low powered tags to upvote (legitimately). The "weak:" function seems to behave like the issue above, giving "XOR" results with it on or off. I want both results, and adding both "x" and "weak:x" gives me "Galleries cannot have a tag that is both strong and weak at the same time."
Sorry if this has been addressed. I skimmed some of the comments here, but might have missed it. The change came a bit suddenly on me. Would be nice with an extra box or a profile preference to make them OR instead of XOR. The previous low powered tags function also required less technical work as a checkbox, but I can see how individual low powered tags is useful even if I preferred the old way.
This post has been edited by Ichizon: Nov 16 2022, 21:30
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Nov 16 2022, 21:18
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-terry-
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What makes pages better than date/gid anyway? Say if you bookmarked something at page 30 a week ago, the results will be different from where you left off, unlike when searching is done by the gid, that stays the same. And if you want to just jump to an arbitrary page you can do the same with a date, what am i missing?
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Nov 16 2022, 22:09
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Kusakabeaiaiai
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 14 2022, 12:10)  If it says "about" that means it's an estimate. It can be wrong, especially if a particular query mostly has hits in a couple of categories and you have some categories disabled.
According to your answer, I can consider this situation is normal? Not what I set in the settings(Settings at the top of the gallery)?
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Nov 16 2022, 22:10
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shote1369
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Snom feels more pretty please if there was an index for showing the total of favorite galleries. Since the changing. Snom does not find that index anywhere in the new interface while the old interface has that index. Please.
This post has been edited by shote1369: Nov 16 2022, 22:10
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Nov 16 2022, 22:16
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(Kusakabeaiaiai @ Nov 16 2022, 21:09)  According to your answer, I can consider this situation is normal? The result count can be off, yeah, but I'm planning on improving the estimate in the future. It does need some index additions though, so it had to be fully deployed first so I could get rid of the old indexing code. QUOTE(shote1369 @ Nov 16 2022, 21:10)  Snom feels more pretty please if there was an index for showing the total of favorite galleries. I'll probably add it with an upcoming pass of the favorite system. I suppose if you want it faster, you could make a userscript to tally the individual category counts.
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Nov 16 2022, 23:56
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hzqr
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Navigation looks kinda... disconnected? from the rest of the page, feel like proper buttons would look better (IMG:[ files.catbox.moe] https://files.catbox.moe/n4b4ic.png)
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Nov 17 2022, 00:15
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aklfhl
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Description search doesn't work with unicode characters? comment:漢化 hits 0 results, and we all know there are plenty.
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Nov 17 2022, 01:47
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The_Devian
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Almost nothing shows up in my search for the last month or so, and the lack of page numbers is awful. If the goal was to make the site unusable, it worked. Reminds me of when HorribleSubs quit. I have been here for more years that I care to think about, but if nothing new is going to show up in the search results, then I don't know what else to do. There were more results before I hit refresh, now it's gone.
I am so tired of people changing things for the sake of change, while making everything worse, like Windows. If you are going to change how everything works, you need to make a simple and concise explanation, where everyone can see it, that doesn't require the time to read a novel (for a dyslexic person like me, that would be months of reading).
From what little I can gather, the way searching works is completely different, and there is less then no explanation on the site itself about how it works, when a simple line at the top of every page could fix that.
As the old saying goes, "don't fix what ain't broke".
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Nov 17 2022, 01:49
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Lady_Slayer
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QUOTE(aklfhl @ Nov 16 2022, 16:15)  Description search doesn't work with unicode characters? comment:漢化 hits 0 results, and we all know there are plenty.
phrase "漢化" is not very common in uploader's comment. 0 result simply means do not exist. Only uploader's comment is searchable, other stuff please use third party. also, if you only want to search "Chinese translated", simply type those words in. This post has been edited by dongmian: Nov 17 2022, 01:50
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Nov 17 2022, 02:11
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Necromusume
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comment:"☆" Found 1,181,398 results.
None of the ones I checked actually have ☆ in the uploader comment. It's also supposed to get "Some of your keywords are too short for name searches" but it doesn't. 漢化 not generating that error means it's not being properly recognized as two characters; some multi-byte characters are being seen as multiple characters.
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Nov 17 2022, 04:26
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pornfannumberwhatevs
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QUOTE(LittleSweetLoli @ Nov 16 2022, 19:44)  Only thing that is bad IMO is lack of pages bar. I understand why it's gone, but I still don't like it.
Maybe possibility to switch between versions ? New one (which will be updated) and old one (no future updates but with pages bar) ?
this is good idea, i hope it works out, i mean i get that the site is always changing for what seems like bettering itself, but given the more umm... blunt responses to the update (sorry shank... i knew it was part of an update, i keep the news page open to reload it a lot). look, point is its 2022 and the website always looked one way for 23 years with options to have stuff like thumbnail and minimal, its not easy suddenly having things different with NO way to go back. (also today i learned page 100, oldest uploaded to recent, exactly was where i left off in search of ALL galleries with my favorite tag, not easy starting from dates when i noticed even galleries from before i joined existed, got removed and confuse me). @tenboro , please, i want you to know. i am another face in the crowd, but that we can have both like that taco commercial, it can work out well.
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Nov 17 2022, 05:11
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ken59
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My biggest issue with the change is: I dont remeber when some galleries have been posted. Its fine if I memorized when I faved a gallery, but sometimes I find old stuff i really like. I don’t look at when galleries are posted…
And its sometimes nice to just select a random page, and see what you liked in the past.
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Nov 17 2022, 05:27
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Cipher-kun
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QUOTE(The_Devian @ Nov 16 2022, 23:47)  As the old saying goes, "don't fix what ain't broke".
If you could read you would know it was fixed because it was broken. Also it turns out nuanced problems require detailed explanations. For people new to the thread, the old search system was hitting hardware limitations. Results for tags were limited to the first 100k results. Estimated to cost $4500 USD a month to delay the issues. Or a new solution was needed to actually fix the issue so that it didn't cause such intense hardware usage. A new more powerful search system has been added allowing features unavailable to us before at the cost of pages. "But every website on the internet does paging for 100,000s of results for a large amount of results" Not true, sites like google pretend to have a lot of results but won't let you navigate past the first 1000 results Other sites pretend to do it (boorus), hoping you never go to the last page, or paywall paging beyond a point. boorus for example also only have to deal with tags, not titles, tags, uploader descriptions, weak tags, etc. This post has been edited by Cipher-kun: Nov 17 2022, 06:13
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Nov 17 2022, 05:32
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Bring Stabity
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QUOTE(The_Devian @ Nov 17 2022, 02:47)  Almost nothing shows up in my search for the last month or so, and the lack of page numbers is awful. If the goal was to make the site unusable, it worked. Reminds me of when HorribleSubs quit. I have been here for more years that I care to think about, but if nothing new is going to show up in the search results, then I don't know what else to do. There were more results before I hit refresh, now it's gone.
I am so tired of people changing things for the sake of change, while making everything worse, like Windows. If you are going to change how everything works, you need to make a simple and concise explanation, where everyone can see it, that doesn't require the time to read a novel (for a dyslexic person like me, that would be months of reading).
From what little I can gather, the way searching works is completely different, and there is less then no explanation on the site itself about how it works, when a simple line at the top of every page could fix that.
As the old saying goes, "don't fix what ain't broke".
Supposedly the site will eventually implode under the growing amount of content if it keeps pagination but this seriously doesn't sound like a problem we should be having this soon when sites like Gelbooru can have 7-10 times more entries and still keep its page count and everything. I know the platforms are coded wildly differently but the point is one single million of uploads shouldn't be enough to break a site. Even if the fix is necessary the top priority should be implementing a reasonable substitute to pages like a progress bar that is consistently and methodically requested by many, but after waiting two weeks for it there's still nothing. It's weird that we're even having this issue in the first place but the way its solutions are handled is disappointing to put it mildly.
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Nov 17 2022, 05:59
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tehyar
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QUOTE(tehyar @ Nov 16 2022, 12:53)  I’m enjoying the new navigation. I frequently used to get to the bottom of a page, fatfinger the next button and go into the bottom gallery instead. Tablet browsing, heh. That happened more often than wanting to use the jump numbers.
I would also like to comment on the speed. I’ve long considered to this to be the most reliable and speedy site I frequent. Yet the speed is now notably faster, almost instant. Well done!!
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Nov 17 2022, 10:42
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aklfhl
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QUOTE(dongmian @ Nov 17 2022, 07:49)  phrase "漢化" is not very common in uploader's comment.
0 result simply means do not exist.
Only uploader's comment is searchable, other stuff please use third party.
also, if you only want to search "Chinese translated", simply type those words in.
I don't want to search "Chinese translated", "漢化" is just a common word for testing. I'm pretty sure it's very common, a lot of translators will leave some words about themselves in uploader's comment. https://e-hentai.org/g/2376666/acfffea841/https://e-hentai.org/g/2376635/6026f47c37/https://e-hentai.org/g/2376626/331c194032/
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