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imo that 'minor' change might be game changer in this time

This post has been edited by 82515181519H: Nov 6 2022, 12:33

At least they fixed filtering by rating resetting whenever you changed page unless you also had a tag in the search bar meaning if you just wanted to fitler by a specific rating and see all the newest editions it was impossible. The UX is still fucking dogshit though

I get Ten's frustration since people who didn't know any better keep saying the same things addressed already.
It is not a date range, it is a date jump. It does what page jumping does but by date. Jumping by specific date makes more sense than a random page number because the contents of page numbers change day by day. Remembering what page something is doesn't work well, galleries get pushed down every single day. You all just got used to that clunky mindset because we haven't had a date filter for around a decade, but now it's back as page jumps.

The massive and obvious problem with filtering by dates is that two works that are next to each other, especially when you're using more niche tags or aiming for specific content, are NOT guaranteed to be within the same week or month and the works that were just 1 page or a few pages away, which was just 1 simple click or input to get to, can be years away from each other.

I always knew where certain works were not by page but by relation to each other because they're listed in chronological order so once a work is uploaded as long as you use the same tags its location will always be static. You are asking me, in order to reach what I want that may be on page 30 or 40 then another that's on 50 and another that's on 70, to memorize multiple dates and jot it down on some notepad. At that point, why not just scrap the entire thing and just make people have to favorite everything because that's significantly easier, especially when the vast majority of users have no god damn idea what date their doujins or comics or whatever were uploaded meaning in order to even figure out the date they have to go through so many galleries.

If ten is going to keep using this absolutely retarded system because he doesn't know any better way that's user friendly then he needs to to give everyone the "Too many pages" perk and then double that so people have fewer pages and can control+f more reliably. I only had the "More pages" perk because that was all I needed - now I'm going to have to max it out and I'm going to need to start favoriting shit so I don't end up looking like I'm fucking Jim Carrey in The Number 23 with all these dates and what they mean and reference to.

I will say this again: THE USER EXPERIENCE FUCKING BLOWS, FIX IT. This isn't a "hurr durr just use your brain" moment - shit is objectively worse to navigate now.

edit: perk I might be thinking of could be paging enlargement

This post has been edited by petnavi: Nov 6 2022, 12:46

- The "Search Downvoted Tags" option was removed.

That's a sore loss: search by downvoted tags was great to find galleries close to some topic, but not exactly it.

I was wondering if there was a way to isolate results based on a specific day like searching for results only for today, for example.

I tried reading the front page but I don't think I saw it anywhere.

Honestly Options 2 seem more realistic to me from Tenboro reply, sure Limit to around 1000-2000 searchs might seem restriciive at first, but if you search multiple tags. it's unlikely to ever cross 5000 mark. Not to mentioned that you can search single tags with added conditions such as only game cg, or only doujinshi, honestly, crossing over 1000 mark per search is actually very rare.

This would be nice to have too assuming there isn't any constraints on the servers' end.
It's a solution for those who still want to use page numbers and those who go to site like nyaa are used to it anyways.

This post has been edited by jetpack003: Nov 6 2022, 13:44

.jumppop z-index should be higher; currently it's set to 9 and not enough in Minimal/Minimal+ mode: [files.catbox.moe] https://files.catbox.moe/9rpswl.png

Makes me wonder how many people are using Minimal/Minimal+ since it's by far my favourite viewing mode 👀

This post has been edited by FabulousCupcake: Nov 6 2022, 14:11

I was wondering if there was a way to isolate results based on a specific day like searching for results only for today, for example.

I tried reading the front page but I don't think I saw it anywhere.
This would be nice to have too assuming there isn't any constraints on the servers' end.
It's a solution for those who still want to use page numbers and those who go to site like nyaa are used to it anyways.

To be fair, It's extremely rare for anyone willing to go browsing through 100 pages, Most likely, when the number of pages counts in search cross 100 mark, people are likely to add tags or denoted conditions to reduced the numbers of pages themselves.

Change bad! Me no like!

Is making a hybrid gid/pagination system possible?
Like limiting the pages to 50 using server-based result parsing and using gid for everything else, or calculating a make-shift pagination on user's end using the presented search results starting with the most recent.

There needs to be some kind of a GUI-based segmented (by number of results on a page) navigation bar on top of the screen so average joe and jane like me could see how deep I am from the starting point and could click the segments to jump back and forward. I don't mind if this would only be possible for around 50 pages worth of content. Currently there's no indication whatsoever how deep you are into the rabbit hole.
Just a timeline doesn't help, it's too imprecise, trying to click on it to navigate feels like pointing a finger into the sky.

Makes me wonder how many people are using Minimal/Minimal+ since it's by far my favourite viewing mode 👀

Extended is love. Extended is life.

.jumppop z-index should be higher; currently it's set to 9 and not enough in Minimal/Minimal+ mode: [files.catbox.moe] https://files.catbox.moe/9rpswl.png

Makes me wonder how many people are using Minimal/Minimal+ since it's by far my favourite viewing mode ������

Hmm, right. Thanks, I'll fix that.

There needs to be some kind of a GUI-based segmented (by number of results on a page) navigation bar on top of the screen so average joe and jane like me could see how deep I am from the starting point and could click the segments to jump back and forward. I don't mind if this would only be possible for around 50 pages worth of content. Currently there's no indication whatsoever how deep you are into the rabbit hole.
Just a timeline doesn't help, it's too imprecise, trying to click on it to navigate feels like pointing a finger into the sky.

It's complicated. The system can't just blindly go by "well we are at around GID 2M and there are ~2.4M GIDs so we are about ~17% into the result" because results can just suddenly dry out. Say for example you are searching for a parody, or a character from said parody; there will (should) be no results before said parody existed, and the grouping of said results can be very peaky. It usually looks something like a Poisson distribution, where you get a fairly sharp increase from 0 to a peak typically around the time when the anime airs, then a long tail going until everyone who liked the series have died or lost interest. Similarly, searches for concepts or artists that didn't exist until long after the site launched, like "patreon" or "ai generated" will exhibit a similar behavior, except the curve is more of a straight line, until the artist disappears and it goes back to zero. Similarly again with fetishes where the tags didn't exist until a given point of time, and so on.

Which means that such a readout would generally be wonky and unreliable for everything except for some core tags that have been around forever.

At least they fixed filtering by rating resetting whenever you changed page unless you also had a tag in the search bar meaning if you just wanted to fitler by a specific rating and see all the newest editions it was impossible. The UX is still fucking dogshit though
The massive and obvious problem with filtering by dates is that two works that are next to each other, especially when you're using more niche tags or aiming for specific content, are NOT guaranteed to be within the same week or month and the works that were just 1 page or a few pages away, which was just 1 simple click or input to get to, can be years away from each other.

I always knew where certain works were not by page but by relation to each other because they're listed in chronological order so once a work is uploaded as long as you use the same tags its location will always be static. You are asking me, in order to reach what I want that may be on page 30 or 40 then another that's on 50 and another that's on 70, to memorize multiple dates and jot it down on some notepad. At that point, why not just scrap the entire thing and just make people have to favorite everything because that's significantly easier, especially when the vast majority of users have no god damn idea what date their doujins or comics or whatever were uploaded meaning in order to even figure out the date they have to go through so many galleries.

If ten is going to keep using this absolutely retarded system because he doesn't know any better way that's user friendly then he needs to to give everyone the "Too many pages" perk and then double that so people have fewer pages and can control+f more reliably. I only had the "More pages" perk because that was all I needed - now I'm going to have to max it out and I'm going to need to start favoriting shit so I don't end up looking like I'm fucking Jim Carrey in The Number 23 with all these dates and what they mean and reference to.

I will say this again: THE USER EXPERIENCE FUCKING BLOWS, FIX IT. This isn't a "hurr durr just use your brain" moment - shit is objectively worse to navigate now.

edit: perk I might be thinking of could be paging enlargement

And that was already addressed: It is a tradeoff he is willing to make and I personally agree, if the alternative is the site dying soon due to overload for that paging convenience. And your argument is already justified by using the next/prev buttons. Saving a couple of clicks isn't worht the site dying in the bigger picture. You know contents relative to each other? Know when they were uploaded, then navigate via next/prev buttons instead of blindly jumping within 10 pages until you find where the relative content is. What you described is both an inaccurate way of blind searching and expensive server-wise. People got used to that so they think it's "easy" but it was really a poor method to find contents. Memorizing pages of galleries and them ending up not being there where you have to click a couple more pages is not as easier as jumping around with next/previous buttons after jumping to the date you remember when they were posted. The advantage of the latter is that it doesn't kill the server and not limited to 100 pages.

Like it was said before, it's a tradeoff. Anyone can say page jumps are subjectively better for them but at the end of the day the site has to survive.

I'll be more reasonable this time.

I think it's clear that such unlimited uploading really shouldn't have been allowed all these years, mostly concerning the artist gallery spam of individual image sets of about 8 pics each, but it's obviously too late now unless you were to flatly delete any galleries with a given low number of images, which probably isn't a great idea. Besides, it might have been a bitch to moderate restrictive uploading.

I wish it was possible to have simply removed uploading from the current site and then created a second, blank site in order to begin again with a brand new index so there wasn't just one gigantic thing overloading the hardware. The two sites wouldn't even have to be linked directly. Anyone could easily understand "Go here for <2020 stuff, Go there for 2020> stuff" or wherever the cutoff year would be. I really have to assume that was considered but deemed infeasible. I assume what made it impossible is that on the hardware side, it would just be very similar to doubling everything now, which gives that $4500 price tag.

This post has been edited by Kosouda: Nov 6 2022, 15:02

I'll be more reasonable this time.

two sites

Yes, much more reasonable.

File search is unavailable now? It returns 404.

It's complicated. The system can't just blindly go by "well we are at around GID 2M and there are ~2.4M GIDs so we are about ~17% into the result" because results can just suddenly dry out. Say for example you are searching for a parody, or a character from said parody; there will (should) be no results before said parody existed, and the grouping of said results can be very peaky. It usually looks something like a Poisson distribution, where you get a fairly sharp increase from 0 to a peak typically around the time when the anime airs, then a long tail going until everyone who liked the series have died or lost interest. Similarly, searches for concepts or artists that didn't exist until long after the site launched, like "patreon" or "ai generated" will exhibit a similar behavior, except the curve is more of a straight line, until the artist disappears and it goes back to zero. Similarly again with fetishes where the tags didn't exist until a given point of time, and so on.

Which means that such a readout would generally be wonky and unreliable for everything except for some core tags that have been around forever.

This sounds way worse than I thought it would be, and I didn't have much expectations from the beginning. Doesn't this system have way too much limitations for its own convenience?

(IMG:[files.catbox.moe] https://files.catbox.moe/ok8acf.png)
Can this be implemented for exact tag searches then? Both the first and the last tag entries have specified dates. I don't mind the length to be "expected" rather than "precise", if precise is impossible.

Hmm, right. Thanks, I'll fix that.

Should be fixed now.

File search is unavailable now? It returns 404.

Should also be fixed now.

This sounds way worse than I thought it would be, and I didn't have much expectations from the beginning. Doesn't this system have way too much limitations for its own convenience?

Uh, that has nothing to do with the system design or implementation, just the nature of the content.

I used to search for older stuff as well. I would usually search for a tag, and like, then go to page 300 whenever I wanted to look for older stuff. Searching by dates is not the same. I don't like this change either.

This post has been edited by hentaieyebr: Nov 6 2022, 17:04

Is it really impossible to show both deleted galleries and normal galleries when searching?

Searching by Favorite Note contents doesn't work.

Would be great to have at least pseudo pagination like the ability to jump 1-10 pages back and forth.

Searching by Favorite Note contents doesn't work.

I just tried and it seems to be working for me, are you using favnote: and searching on the favourites page?