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Nov 5 2022, 23:07
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Pliny the Younger
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This is definitely a step in the right direction.
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Nov 5 2022, 23:19
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Tagtagger
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 5 2022, 18:11)  Hmm, I'll look into that. Were you sorting by favorite or published time?
Sorted by favorited time. I just tried and it works correctly when I sort by "published time". edit: QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 5 2022, 20:42)  Yeah, I just managed to reproduce it, I'll look into it.
Edit: Should be fixed now, let me know if you're still seeing this.
Everything is fixed now. Thank you. This post has been edited by Tagtagger: Nov 5 2022, 23:25
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Nov 5 2022, 23:22
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timo4545
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If page numbers had stayed then this would've been an incredible update. Literally everything else aside from removing that was a good change.
It's just the page numbers. They're the reason this is the busiest the forums have ever been. No average user likes their removal.
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Nov 5 2022, 23:35
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aklfhl
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 6 2022, 04:42)  Yeah, I just managed to reproduce it, I'll look into it.
Edit: Should be fixed now, let me know if you're still seeing this.
Nice! It works for me. BTW the new Jump/Seek feature is amazing, I didn't expect it to be available in such a short time. Appreciate your great work.
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Nov 5 2022, 23:50
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sakuracircle
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QUOTE(Xorrak @ Nov 6 2022, 03:29)  what does jump and seek achieve? I guarantee that most of us don't remember when things are posted I mean, I guess it is some improvement, but it's not what we wanted
It makes people able to jump right to the specific dates they wanted. It's a far more logical way and reason to jump compared to "pages" which is vague and every-changing. Like I said before, wanting to jump to "page 50 of 100" or n% of results doesn't have any valid reason beyond subjective preference and "I just want to see what's there" because the contents of the same page number in the same search query is always different every several minutes due to the high frequency of new entries. Add the fact that the paginated results caching of the old search keeps having the same "missing/duplicate entry" between pages every time and the highly intensive processing power/cache storage needed to maintain it is what made me forsee this change for like a couple years ago. It was actually surprising that the old search paging lasted this long before getting replaced with something that won't kill the servers in due time. The tradeoff is worth it and people will get used to the change in time. The sad fact is that the traditional pagination isn't meant for big data tables like the site.
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Nov 6 2022, 00:10
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y6t75r9f2
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The opening post says the OR search only works for tags, and also removed search description. Is there no way to combine these anymore? For instance, "fantia" is not a tag but is a pretty common title inclusion for content from there. But sometimes it's not in the title and rather is instead inside the uploader comment.
~fantia ~comment:fantia obviously can't work. I can't seem to find a way to be able to single search content with it either in the title or in the uploader comment
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Nov 6 2022, 00:17
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sithlordgore
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QUOTE(sakuracircle @ Nov 5 2022, 23:50)  It makes people able to jump right to the specific dates they wanted. It's a far more logical way and reason to jump compared to "pages" which is vague and every-changing. Like I said before, wanting to jump to "page 50 of 100" or n% of results doesn't have any valid reason beyond subjective preference and "I just want to see what's there" because the contents of the same page number in the same search query is always different every several minutes due to the high frequency of new entries. Add the fact that the paginated results caching of the old search keeps having the same "missing/duplicate entry" between pages every time and the highly intensive processing power/cache storage needed to maintain it is what made me forsee this change for like a couple years ago. It was actually surprising that the old search paging lasted this long before getting replaced with something that won't kill the servers in due time.
The tradeoff is worth it and people will get used to the change in time. The sad fact is that the traditional pagination isn't meant for big data tables like the site.
People aren't going to just get use to it, they are going to leave and find a website thats more user friendly, more than likely a competitor that simply skims off sadpanda and reuploads it somewhere else. None of the other features of the update are bad, but removing pagination and making up a bullshit excuse as to why its gone is not going to appease anyone who has used the website perfectly fine for years. The reason why the forums are more populated now than they ever have been is because removing pagination is bad and no one likes it, at the end of the day updates to the user interface are about end user experience not about developer preference. If you make the end user experience poor, your users will leave for a competitor that understands what they want.
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Nov 6 2022, 00:47
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Aconic
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I understand why page numbers needed to be replaced but browsing still feels too nebulous, It’s evident that most people don’t anchor around dates. I just wish there was a decent compromise.
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Nov 6 2022, 00:49
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Freedomno1
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 5 2022, 12:02) 
As such, whenever an future update with major UI changes is getting ready for launch, I'll make a public test version of it first.
It's a MIRACLE!!!!! Anyways just having fun reading the thread and munching some popcorn with unicorn sprinkles Cheers Would use !Beer but not the hive-engine haha
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Nov 6 2022, 00:50
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CASSHARN
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The latest patch kind of work well in a right direction. Lacking pages or indicators showing how far I have gone make it feels a bit strange though.
But at least you're listening. Unlike Elon Musk. That's brilliant
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Nov 6 2022, 01:11
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QUOTE Secure Connection Failed
An error occurred during a connection to e-hentai.org. Peer’s certificate has an invalid signature. Error code: SEC_ERROR_BAD_SIGNATURE only on the new version. What the fuck is going on here?
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Nov 6 2022, 01:16
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blackneko
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QUOTE(Jo.To @ Nov 6 2022, 01:11)  only on the new version. What the fuck is going on here?
Corrupted cookie. Try clearing out the cookies and relogin.
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Nov 6 2022, 01:32
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ehbiwtf
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If index is too big, would it not be more manageable to separate it by year, range of years, by category, or hell by both? Users would be forced to only search within a specific date range and/or category every time they hit that search button.
Pages are so important. I think sacrificing other features should have been thought of first. Either way whatever happens, thank you for keeping this website going. PPL might seem really angry and say nasty stuff, and I'm not trying to excuse their behavior--lot of ppl deserve a ban that went too far, but I hope you don't take their passionate responses too personal.
We all appreciate the work you do.
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Nov 6 2022, 01:38
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Jo.To
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QUOTE(blackneko @ Nov 5 2022, 19:16)  Corrupted cookie. Try clearing out the cookies and relogin.
Nope. Still showing it.
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Nov 6 2022, 01:43
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spoilerman
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i'm getting a server error (host error) since yesterday, can anyone confirm if they can connect to e-hentai?
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Nov 6 2022, 02:04
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korijoe
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At the very least you're trying to make things right given the circumstances. But from what I can tell from said circumstances, this change is too just a kick it down the road. I'm actually kind of curious, where are the serves stored
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Nov 6 2022, 02:14
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cucamorais
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I don't wanna believe there's no workaround on this, there must be a way to conserve page numbers and RAM at the same time.
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Nov 6 2022, 02:16
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Chunga
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any news on the Paging Enlargement III hath perk not working?
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Nov 6 2022, 02:16
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kaliningradh
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The new "jump/seek" option is a bit better as a temporary bandaid but definitely inferior to the pagination we had, it's not user friendly and should have been a file search option filter from the beginning, not a mean to replace what works perfectly fine. I like to discover new doujins, as such i often need to go forward or backwards a few pages and i can rarely remember the date (but i do remember the page number because it's shorter). So bring back pagination please, this is such a crucial part of an archive that it shouldn't even be cause for a debate.
This post has been edited by kaliningradh: Nov 6 2022, 02:17
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Nov 6 2022, 02:26
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jadoeman
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Most stuff has been said already. Happy to see that feedback is being taken.
And even if we didn't get an open beta of it, just knowing this was coming might have helped with the headaches - maybe if the large chorus of "ew bad" happened prior to rollout (and let's be honest there'd have been a ruckus even pre-rollout), the rollout could have been delayed a bit until stuff like the "jump to date" was ready. First impressions are important, and many people just aren't going to read notes/updates saying that fixes are coming. If it's broken now, they'll be complaining now.
Anyway. I'm honestly interested in seeing what way this plays out. Because pagination is a solution, not a goal. Nobody wants pages because they have a page fetish or something. (At least I hope they don't. Paper cuts hurt.) Rather, pages solve a lot of common problems in a simple and straightforward way. Everyone understands pages and how to use them, you don't need tooltips or FAQs on how to use them, hell even my tech-illiterate parents could see "you are on page 123 of 456" and know how to use it.
If we throw out pages, can we come up with something equivalent? Something that solves all (or at least most) the same problems but in an utterly different way? The "jump to date" already solves some of those problems - and once the kinks are worked out it may actually solve them better than pages did, since pages vary based on search results. While dates are absolute. (At least until someone updates the gallery, but that would fuck with the page numbers too anyway.)
What other problems do pages solve, which got axed by this site update? What non-page solutions could they be replaced by? And with time/polish, can they be made as as intuitive and slick as a good 'ol page bar was?
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