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Nov 2 2022, 15:05
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Reliance
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Is there a way to filter results by date? Say I haven't been in the site for a month or two, how can I say, only make it show results that are 2 months old? Clicking the page numbers before and looking at the date was my way of doing it but now that's gone.
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Nov 2 2022, 15:07
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ShinyToast
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Youtube-tier update. Seriously, what the fuck is this?
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Nov 2 2022, 15:07
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Skollvaldr
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It appears as though searching expunged galleries is now an either/or situation, rather than expunged results merely being included with regular results. This seems like a rather inconvenient change.
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Nov 2 2022, 15:07
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notknow
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QUOTE(woot5 @ Nov 2 2022, 14:32) Edit: Ah, no. Searching as I used to is just completely broken. Searching "corr" used to bring up anything with that string in it's title or tag (useful for male: corruption and female:corruption), but now it appears to only grab the titles. It jumps from page 1 being October results to page 3 being march results, when it should have October results still returning on page 3.
It looks like I now have to explicitly search "female:corruption" to return results, which is just not a great change. This mostly impacts multi-word searches, like using the term "mind" as a catchall for mind control and mind break, for instance. Additionally, it means that if you want to search a tag on both genders, you have to double the amount of tags you're searching. Just an absolutely terrible quality of life change.
I think you can search like the old way if you put an "*" at the end. QUOTE - Tag searching now defaults to matching on word boundaries to reduce unwanted matches. In other words, searching for "tag:mana" will still match all tags that have "mana" as one of the words (like "secret of mana" [=> seiken densetsu] or "mana inuyama"), but it does not match "manabe", "manatsu", "manami" and so on. Searching for "tag:mana*" will restore the previous behavior. So try searching for "corr*", about searching for mind I guess its worse then.
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Nov 2 2022, 15:11
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garfield15
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You have to understand for the average user, this search change is an absolutely terrible idea and has broken some search results.
I especially don't understand why this change had to apply to Favorites as well.
Please roll it back. It is a net negative.
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Nov 2 2022, 15:12
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forsakenme
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I signed up on Jun 28 2011. This is my first post. Congratulations for getting me to post.
I've seen many, many changes. Haven't particularly cared one way or another. It has historically been very rare that overall usability has been adversely impacted.
The changes started out good. The expanded search parameters were very welcome.
And then it all went downhill. Broken tags. Broken searches. Broken favorites. Missing favorites. Constant "no hits" found. Constant ignoring of key words which were previously standard tags. I understand there will always be some time needed to work out the bugs, but at least do your due diligence before making it live. At least give a heads up and allow users to beta test if you're too busy to do so instead of blindsiding everybody at once with drastic and allegedly irreversible changes.
Changes to the ability to search low power or expunged tags as part of the standard search are awful. I shouldn't have to perform two, three, or more searches when one previously would suffice. This is especially a problem for low power, as things are not always tagged correctly.
The changes to pages and the way results are displayed are completely indefensible. Many results found - so informative! I too like sifting through an unknown quantity of pages and results and being unable to find some of the most relevant information to my search. Is there a lot of what I search for? Is there a little? Am I searching or filtering out the right tags? Nobody knows! At least I "found many results" though - whether it's 3 whole galleries or 3000. Many results! They sure are results.
Your remedy of "just know the GID LOL!!!" is insulting. Whoever greenlighted these changes are mind-numbingly and painfully out of touch with how the vast majority of users search and consume their content. If you think there's no "world line" in which the website doesn't keel over because it includes basic functionality that every user relies on, I have terrible news for you. Instead, the website will keel over because user base drops off a cliff.
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Nov 2 2022, 15:12
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白井·黑子
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So there's no way to do a tag search that includes normal and expunged results? Excuse me? Why? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Nov 2 2022, 15:16
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sr331
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QUOTE(count12 @ Nov 2 2022, 08:23) Probably the worst functionality update of all time for any website I use. I can't even jump to a specific page in my favorites. Can you at least implement a "Skip ahead 5/10/20 pages" feature?
pressing the button 50 times is hell...
I concur, the mouse was not made to endure multiple clicks.
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Nov 2 2022, 15:17
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lightfinder
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[Advanced Options] works strange also. I remember that 'browse expunged galleries' and 'search low-power tags' worked as 'additional search', which means that with those options checked search results become same or more, not less.
But those options are now uncomprehensible. Each checkbox seems blocking each other and works exclusively. When with any of those options 'on', all 'normal' search results are gone. Just showing some old posts.
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Nov 2 2022, 15:21
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Nihilm
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As much as I hate page numbers being removed, there is a reason why they did and it's not just about some bs design vision and the reason is stated in the OP. I think criticism on how this was not at all announced before hand or ideas on how to implement similar functionality on the new engine is all fine and good, but just saying "there is no reason to do this, go back" is just invalid when the explained reason was "the old system was not going to scale to the size the website has gotten and it was either change it or close down the site."
A more technical explanation is that the new system does not know how many of something is in a particular search, because it doesn't go through the entire thing and find them, rather it finds the first X of them and returns them and saves where it stopped searching and then when you press next, it searches from that position. The CID is the position where it continues searching from, until it finds X results again.
In that sense there is no way to bring back pages without always searching through the entire database and segmenting what things are on what pages.
I don't know the exact details and there are probably ways to mitigate the issue while still having pages, heavily caching search results come to mind, though issue with that would be that results would not be up to date and might have a different downside of new material only appearing in searches an entire day later when cache gets updated.
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Nov 2 2022, 15:22
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zodaloo
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Hey yeah, may you please revert this update and just put page numbers back? This new "arrows only, next last" stuff is horrendous for navigation and actually finding the galleries we want. It's cumbersome, unintuitive, and makes things unnecessarilly complicated to a ludicrous degree. There's no positives to this update whatesoever, it's just completely bad. Please revert these changes and never do them again.
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Nov 2 2022, 15:23
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darkknightx2
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QUOTE(garfield15 @ Nov 2 2022, 16:11) You have to understand for the average user, this search change is an absolutely terrible idea and has broken some search results.
I especially don't understand why this change had to apply to Favorites as well.
Please roll it back. It is a net negative.
Yeah, I'm astonished too about Favorites as well... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) we'll have to get used to this...
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Nov 2 2022, 15:24
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Deamon9
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I'm not going to say it's the worst update but it definitely feels like we have taken one step forward and 2 steps back. Stability is great and all but when it's at the cost of the user experience sometimes the best changes are the ones that never happens.
I know you guys put a lot of work into this update and I really appreciate it, but if making things harder to find and navigate through is considered a feature I'm sorry to say but I think many people here would prefer less stability and more usability.
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Nov 2 2022, 15:26
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alpha1123
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no page selector is really bad
what other imagesites dont have page selector? fakku has it, nhentai and its infinitite copies have it, wth is this?
This post has been edited by alpha1123: Nov 2 2022, 15:29
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Nov 2 2022, 15:31
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negavamas
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QUOTE(Nihilm @ Nov 2 2022, 14:21) As much as I hate page numbers being removed, there is a reason why they did and it's not just about some bs design vision and the reason is stated in the OP. I think criticism on how this was not at all announced before hand or ideas on how to implement similar functionality on the new engine is all fine and good, but just saying "there is no reason to do this, go back" is just invalid when the explained reason was "the old system was not going to scale to the size the website has gotten and it was either change it or close down the site."
A more technical explanation is that the new system does not know how many of something is in a particular search, because it doesn't go through the entire thing and find them, rather it finds the first X of them and returns them and saves where it stopped searching and then when you press next, it searches from that position. The CID is the position where it continues searching from, until it finds X results again.
In that sense there is no way to bring back pages without always searching through the entire database and segmenting what things are on what pages.
I don't know the exact details and there are probably ways to mitigate the issue while still having pages, heavily caching search results come to mind, though issue with that would be that results would not be up to date and might have a different downside of new material only appearing in searches an entire day later when cache gets updated.
I don't doubt the technical problems with the sheer size of the site is causing problems with the search engine, I've seen the page take up to a minute to load or straight up crashing on me. What is not alright is the lack of any kind of announcement on a change so important, or not explaining how the new search engine works. It's ludicrous to think the average user will understand what a gallery ID is, much less to expect them to know how to use it to search for stuff. If this stuff is not properly brought up and discussed well before the changes are made, the end result will be a large chunk of the site traffic disappearing, because very few people want to deal with an arbitrary numbering system to bust a nut.
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Nov 2 2022, 15:31
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Satoru
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Page selector is sorely missed, also I dont really need to know this:
"Your default filters removed 6 galleries from this page."
I placed those filters for a reason thank you very much, dont really care much about those 6 galleries.
If possible can we have the page selector back, and an option to turn of that notification.
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Nov 2 2022, 15:31
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117649
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QUOTE(Nihilm @ Nov 2 2022, 15:21) As much as I hate page numbers being removed, there is a reason why they did and it's not just about some bs design vision and the reason is stated in the OP. I think criticism on how this was not at all announced before hand or ideas on how to implement similar functionality on the new engine is all fine and good, but just saying "there is no reason to do this, go back" is just invalid when the explained reason was "the old system was not going to scale to the size the website has gotten and it was either change it or close down the site."
A more technical explanation is that the new system does not know how many of something is in a particular search, because it doesn't go through the entire thing and find them, rather it finds the first X of them and returns them and saves where it stopped searching and then when you press next, it searches from that position. The CID is the position where it continues searching from, until it finds X results again.
In that sense there is no way to bring back pages without always searching through the entire database and segmenting what things are on what pages.
I don't know the exact details and there are probably ways to mitigate the issue while still having pages, heavily caching search results come to mind, though issue with that would be that results would not be up to date and might have a different downside of new material only appearing in searches an entire day later when cache gets updated.
There is no CID. Its GID that been used and now it is just the exact id of the gallay
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Nov 2 2022, 15:31
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冷 毁
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able to see both expunged galleries and visible galleries at the same time is very important
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Nov 2 2022, 15:35
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ticktack
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Can't get the page selector back even if it's just a favorite?
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