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May 5 2010, 10:54
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Skeleton Snax
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QUOTE(Super Shanko @ May 5 2010, 09:33)  Who knows what happened there, maybe they died or are trapped in an mmorpg.
That's almost worst than those people who accept but never return.
Sounds about right. and yea, that's a sucky thing to do.
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May 13 2010, 08:57
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Lunatic2
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I have a fix suggestion for the Top Ten Most Wanted Bounties list. Right now it shuffles bounties only by the first opening reward and does not take into account anything you might have chipped in afterwards, which means the list is a fake. It does not realy show 10 highest bounties, but 10 highest with opening reward. To get your bounty on the list, the only option you have is to cancel the bounty and reopen it with the higher ammount. Even if i have a bounty with ex:100,000 C 1,000.000 GP 100 Hath, it will never get on the list if it was started with any avarage sum.
Tenb: Could you pls fix this so it would calculate from the whole bounty?
thanks a lot.
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May 13 2010, 11:27
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(Lunatic2 @ May 13 2010, 08:57)  I have a fix suggestion for the Top Ten Most Wanted Bounties list. Right now it shuffles bounties only by the first opening reward and does not take into account anything you might have chipped in afterwards, which means the list is a fake. It does not realy show 10 highest bounties, but 10 highest with opening reward. To get your bounty on the list, the only option you have is to cancel the bounty and reopen it with the higher ammount. Even if i have a bounty with ex:100,000 C 1,000.000 GP 100 Hath, it will never get on the list if it was started with any avarage sum. Tenb: Could you pls fix this so it would calculate from the whole bounty?
thanks a lot.
Hmm.. yeah, the sorting query was buggy, it would add up all the bounty grants but only sort on one entry. Should be fixed now.
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May 13 2010, 16:35
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20200
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I'd be interested in knowing what value the system places on hath and GP in relation to credits when calculating the top bounties.
This post has been edited by Boggyb: May 13 2010, 16:35
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May 13 2010, 18:05
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Tenboro

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10000 GP = 1000 Credits = 1 Hath.
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May 13 2010, 18:17
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20200
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 13 2010, 09:05)  10000 GP = 1000 Credits = 1 Hath.
I remember the days of 10:1 GP: Credit ratio. Hell, I remember the days of 6:1. Damn that makes me feel old.
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May 14 2010, 03:33
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Super Shanko
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ May 13 2010, 09:17)  I remember the days of 10:1 GP: Credit ratio. Hell, I remember the days of 6:1. Damn that makes me feel old.
Wow, I think it was 12.something when I first came here.
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May 15 2010, 08:04
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Red of EHCOVE
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 13 2010, 12:05)  10000 GP = 1000 Credits = 1 Hath. Which means that the credits are undervalued, and hath even more so. After all, isn't the current rate more like 1 hath = 2200 credits = 35000 GP
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May 15 2010, 10:41
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kingwolf
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QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ May 15 2010, 01:04)  Which means that the credits are undervalued, and hath even more so. After all, isn't the current rate more like
1 hath = 2200 credits = 35000 GP
It's a bit closer to 1 hath = 2000 credits = 30000 GP And why's the GP/credits exchange rate climbing so much? Stop increasing damnit! Based on this, it would seem that people are exchanging more and more GP for credits. What if we could make the GP more valuable to the users in some way?
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May 15 2010, 10:42
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Tenboro

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That barely matters, seeing as it's only used for ordering the bounties. I might update it occasionally, but it's hardly a priority.
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May 15 2010, 15:15
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Dlaglacz
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It only tells you that the cheapest way to have bounty high in ranking you need to use GP as a reward.
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May 16 2010, 09:36
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Red of EHCOVE
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QUOTE(Dlaglacz @ May 15 2010, 09:15)  It only tells you that the cheapest way to have bounty high in ranking you need to use GP as a reward. Which, according to what we hear from bounty hunters, is misleading, because they value GP the least. Couldn't the Top bounties calculator be dynamic and feed off the GP exchange and recent hath exchange values automatically (or once per day / week)?
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May 16 2010, 10:10
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ May 16 2010, 09:36)  Couldn't the Top bounties calculator be dynamic and feed off the GP exchange and recent hath exchange values automatically (or once per day / week)?
Sure it could, but that takes >0 time to do.
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May 16 2010, 16:07
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20200
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QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ May 16 2010, 00:36)  Couldn't the Top bounties calculator be dynamic and feed off the GP exchange and recent hath exchange values automatically (or once per day / week)?
Or it could be set to 22,500 GP: 1,500C : 1 hath That would still be undervaluing hath, but it would be more accurate. (I hesitate to use 2000C: 1 hath because I don't think that is accurate. Some sell for more, others less.).
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May 22 2010, 12:48
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Super Shanko
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I'm not sure anymore, you'd think having several hath in a single bounty would be enough to get it done and over with, but that doesn't seem to work either. It's more or less an interest thing I guess.
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May 22 2010, 18:33
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Red of EHCOVE
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QUOTE(Super Shanko @ May 22 2010, 06:48)  I'm not sure anymore, you'd think having several hath in a single bounty would be enough to get it done and over with, but that doesn't seem to work either. It's more or less an interest thing I guess. Is it? I see you have a series of bounties from different series, most of them popular, posted - and waiting for months now... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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May 23 2010, 00:13
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Super Shanko
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QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ May 22 2010, 09:33)  Is it? I see you have a series of bounties from different series, most of them popular, posted - and waiting for months now... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I know right! I thought the added hath would surely have made someone go like "Hmm, he sure has put alot of hath into one bounty, and he's had it up for a while now, I guess i'll be nice and translate this for him. This post has been edited by Super Shanko: May 23 2010, 05:37
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May 25 2010, 19:45
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Red of EHCOVE
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How about we bump this thread whenever a bounty is completed? I just got mine translated, looking for an editor (Shanko, you still up on your offer?). The translation cost me ~1.1. hath, ~600 creds and 600 GP per page, or, for 11 pages, about 30,000 creds total. This is a steep increase from my two previous completed translations, which were: * 19 pages for 10k creds and 5k GP, so 1 page for ~600 creds, or 12k creds total * 70 pages for 7,5k creds, so 1 page for 105 creds or so A notable difference is that this time I get to post the gallery myself, in the previous cases, it was posted by the translator & editor. This post has been edited by Red_Piotrus: May 25 2010, 19:49
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May 25 2010, 22:43
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Yamato-san
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I'm just now starting to post after about a month of lurking the fjords, but I am a translator, and in my case, I'm admittedly kinda lazy. On top of that, I'm already using my knowledge of Japanese in other projects, such as fansubbing, not to mention the usual personal life getting in the way. Another thing I'd like to mention is that I've been looking past fan scanlating and actually contacting the authors about making a legit English version to be made available on places like DLsite (I've actually succeeded at this once, though I'm still waiting for the finished work). However, I'll still take up bounties, as they provide a form of incentive. While I can't say that I'll immediately begin work on any bounties I accept, I have no intentions of accepting and leaving the person hanging for several weeks/months. When I accept, I anticipate working on it within the next few days (when I actually do get to work, it doesn't take me longer than a few hours to finish depending on how long and wordy it is... I don't work with editing, though). As for what I want out of it all... well, it's going to vary from person to person, but while I can say I enjoy becoming more experienced with translating in general, what I want out of translating stuff here specifically is incentive with which to make bounties of my own. And on that note, can anyone recommend a fair price for doujinshi that haven't even been scanned yet? When I think about it, requesting bounties like that sounds like it should require a fair bit higher of an incentive than simply translating. Seriously, even if translators seem rare, the task of actually finding these things seems to be a significantly tougher task than translating what's already there, and unless a scan is out there, waiting to be discovered in the deepest, most obscure depths of the internet, chances are this kind of work will require one to search for the physical book, buying said book (thus, real money's involved), and scanning said book. There's also a fairly good chance that, like translating, it would require one to understand the language, maybe even live in the country given the difficulty of finding doujinshi outside of Japan. I'd be willing to bet that a fair portion of the sort of things I'm looking for aren't even known to exist to anyone who doesn't actively spend time looking at Japanese sites. Just take [ www.toranoana.jp] this, for instance (click one of the pictures, select はい, then backspace, possibly refresh). A whole slew of derivative works by Mental Specialist (AKA Yoshimasa Watanabe), most of which are several years old (I've been personally waiting for at least some of these years), and perhaps no more than ten of these are available in the galleries right now. If the bounty system can get my word out to someone who could find me stuff like this, I'll gladly take up a few translations. EDIT: Well, okay, I guess it is a stretch to say few would know about them. I was forgetting about the dojin db, but I think my point still remains. This post has been edited by Yamato-san: May 25 2010, 23:09
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May 26 2010, 01:59
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Red of EHCOVE
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Well, has anybody successfully completed a "look for a requested bounty" project, or had them completed? Do share those stories.
I had few bounties for such content out but discarded them to focus on the translation ones.
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