[X] My Assistant

If you spot any suspicious market trades or traders, in particular attempts to use the market to move credits between accounts on Isekai or obvious attempts to use multiple accounts to bypass the overbid/undercut limits, please report and/or discuss it in this thread.

Note that I won't generally be addressing reports directly.

First and foremost, I'm not trying to name and shame anyone here. Just using ewamples to point out one of the limits of the market and some kind of unfairness that seems to be established.

A few select players seem to be able to monopolize some kind of "coupon clipper service" due to how the market works. While being able to get some substantial margin, of course.
It's quite abnormal that an item can be monopolized for profit by only one player in the entire playerbase. And the said player will sure do everything they can so that no one else can ever make profit in their stead by updating their offer frequently to keep their stock up, while selling at the very minimum value possible under which undercutting makes negative profit.
Example of lucrative business: mana potions are singlehandedly monopolized by 怪盗2009, who sells at the price of 9100, making a margin of... 9 Credits by batch of 100 potions if we take the 1% fee into account. That's ridiculously low, yes, but he still has the entire playerbase for himself, at his disposal for effortless profit, with no one else ever able to contest because the market won't let anyone else sell at the same price than him, and any price lower resultats in a loss.

This issue is inherent to how the market works. The fee should be higher for items that are subject to the coupon clipper hath perk, so that nobody is able to use the perk for such a monopoly. If they want to run a coupon clipper service, that's their right and that's why I insist on not shaming such players, but at least that shouldn't be exclusive to one single player and those who want to do that need to use the forums to display their offer along with MoggleMail to trade.

the market won't let anyone else sell at the same price than him, and any price lower resultats in a loss.

The fee should be higher for items that are subject to the coupon clipper hath perk, so that nobody is able to use the perk for such a monopoly.

I've only recently started to use the Market a little, and just enough to touch the surface of the fun of price competition. So I guess we have a mana potion lord with 3 billion credits worth of mana potions monopolizing the profit? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I thought we are able to sell at the same price of 9100 credits, though? I tried just now and I could. But maybe we would be behind the line of 3 billion credits mana potions. Still, eventually those 3 billion potions would run out, and we'd get to make our own coupon clipper profit, right?

I don't know if raising the fee would do anything. If the fee were raised from 1% to 2%, wouldn't that just raise the pricing point of the potion king, and the final result would be the same?

Maybe these alternation solutions could work: 1) do not allow items that are freely available in the Item Shop to be sold for more than the Coupon Clipper price, or 2) when multiple players place orders for the exact same amount, the newest order takes precedence over the oldest (this may feel weird, but I'm not sure this would be a problem).

Oh, I thought that we couldn't sell at the same price. That remark regarding the coupon clipper is still true. That perk exists for a reason. There is barely any meaning in purchasing it if the only thing that makes it worthwhile are the catalysts. The market isn't there to circumvent not having that perk.

This post has been edited by KitsuneAbby: Nov 23 2023, 15:23

The market isn't really there to enable arbitrage trading, but I figured people would be undercutting the market price even with coupon clipper.

I suppose the easiest solutions are to either increase the fee for selling staple items back to 10%, or to set the maximum sell price to the same as the coupon clipper buy price. Though this would probably just push these trades back to using the forums + MM, so it wouldn't actually solve anything.

This assumption is wrong though:

And the said player will sure do everything they can so that no one else can ever make profit in their stead by updating their offer frequently to keep their stock up, while selling at the very minimum value possible under which undercutting makes negative profit.

You can't update an offer to add more stock without being bumped to the back of the sell queue, so if they did that, it would have to burn through all the other orders at 9100C first before they could sell again.

Put a perm or temporary trade lock on items that purchased from the market?

user id:906538 has been monopoly infusions for a while

could you take a look at his trade log?

user id:906538 has been monopoly infusions for a while

could you take a look at his trade log?

Although it's remarkable behavior, it's not like they are breaking any rules. If anything they make the price more beneficial for sellers, while still ensuring sufficient supply at a price that is still quite decent compared to other infusions.

Although it's remarkable behavior, it's not like they are breaking any rules. If anything they make the price more beneficial for sellers, while still ensuring sufficient supply at a price that is still quite decent compared to other infusions.

Current market stock of Infusion of flames are 55.2% higher then other elem infusions so I don't agree that the price is decent right now

A player was able to control over 95% stock of one item and boost the price tag by 200%

I never seen any in-game market allow those action tbh

This post has been edited by SIRIUSs: Feb 26 2025, 17:45

Current market stock of Infusion of flames are 55.2% higher then other elem infusions so I don't agree that the price is decent right now

A player was able to control over 95% stock of one item and boost the price tag by 200%

I never seen any in-game market allow those action tbh

what are you talking about?
light/storm are at 180c each and dark/divinity at around 300c each.
only frost is cheaper, even though flames used to be the cheapest in the past.

i understand that he must be making mad profit on the ones he syphoned up for cheap but as of now it's beneficial to anybody that wants to sell and he's making zero profit on any new one.
if the supply was higher than the demand, his position would be unsustainable.

Possible automated trading bot

https://hentaiverse.org/isekai/?s=Bazaar&am...og=user-6392344

What's going on here?

Isekai scrap metal trade log (edit: link removed)

More than 30k scrap metal sold over 4.5 months. Only sales, no purchases.


edit (and re-edit): I hadn't considered un-upgraded shrining. That seems plausible enough with sufficient trophy purchases to augment drops. Sorry for the false alarm; I hope this doesn't look bad on anyone except me. I've edited out the link, but for full disclosure it was just a video of the trade log scrolled from top to bottom with highlights.

This post has been edited by hydoc: Oct 21 2025, 04:09

What's going on here?

[files.catbox.moe] Isekai scrap metal trade log

More than 30k scrap metal sold over 4.5 months. Only sales, no purchases.

With the coupon clipper hath perk, scrap materials can be bought from the item shop for 90c. What you're seeing is a small amount of profit.
Edit: Sorry I just noticed that was on isekai. They could be playing on a low difficulty and salvaging everything, with the price of average equipment it might be worth more as salvage.
Edit2: Thought about it some more. Most likely he's shrining individual T1 trophies and salvaging instead of selling the average equipment rewards. Doing this would be around 600-700c for 1000 shrine value.

This post has been edited by namae56709: Oct 20 2025, 19:15