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post Apr 28 2022, 09:12
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After some internal discussion followed by a public debate, we have gone ahead and added a new expunge reason named "Defaced" with the following description:

"Content has been defaced by adding content-obstructing scanmarks, censorship or advertisements beyond what is present in the original artist release, or has been intentionally degraded to the point where legibility is an issue."

Since this expunge type has a subjective element, you need a mod power of at least 20 to start this type of expunge petition. It won't show in the list if you have less.

"Degraded" includes any sort of intentional bad-faith sabotage of the core content, including but not limited to excessive downsampling, blurring, pixelation etc, as well as leaving out core content.

Scanmarks that do not obstruct content or promotional pages added after the content pages do not qualify.

Older low-resolution scans are exempt.

This expunge type does not contribute towards the automatic temporary upload ban.

Expunge type filtering was also added to the expunge tracker as part of this addition, along with some other minor filtering improvements.
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post Apr 28 2022, 10:06
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The Wiki has been updated:
- https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Expunging#Defaced

Note that the following entries now fall under the "defaced" category, rather than "forbidden":
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- Intentionally adding censorship beyond the artist's.
- Having tiny or barely visible images.

A new "defaced" expunge tag has been added for identification purposes:
- https://ehwiki.org/wiki/defaced

A list of example(s) of what should NOT be expunged as "defaced":
- https://e-hentai.org/g/1616312/735de10b26/ (phone scans are allowed)
- https://e-hentai.org/g/2188202/37f68786a5/ (text still visible, so still allowed even some may argue it is a "bad" scan)
- https://e-hentai.org/g/1675691/5f33098efe/ (not invasive scanmarks)
- https://e-hentai.org/g/1675692/2e85b37a33/ (not invasive scanmarks)
- https://e-hentai.org/g/2197637/eb2175b05a/ (ads don't cover the core content)

A list of example(s) of what can be expunged as "defaced":
- https://e-hentai.org/g/2185359/ffacac5471/?act=expunge
- https://e-hentai.org/g/2197665/2ad1e70b56/?act=expunge
- https://e-hentai.org/g/2200111/40fb8e6829/?act=expunge

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post Apr 28 2022, 15:36
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I'm glad it's finally happened. I think we all know why this has been brought about, and I hope the individual in question comes to his senses eventually.
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post Apr 28 2022, 16:01
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so bad to hear it
We can let it like a full page sample better than expunge it
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post Apr 28 2022, 16:10
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QUOTE(cs987987 @ Apr 28 2022, 14:01) *
so bad to hear it
We can let it like a full page sample better than expunge it
You can still access the content if you really wish to. They are just expunged (i.e. hidden by default), not disintegrated.
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post Apr 28 2022, 17:43
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Finally! It's about time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Wouldn't it be easier to just automatically expunge every gallery of a specifc uploader (and maybe spare the three serious galleries with more than one stars)? Now people are doing this manually and with some thousands of galleries this will take some time ...

(this will messup the cleanup toplist so much)
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post Apr 28 2022, 17:46
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QUOTE(Waitugreat @ Apr 28 2022, 15:43) *

Wouldn't it be easier to just automatically expunge every gallery of a specifc uploader

Nope
Just copying and pasting, but:
It's awkward if not impossible to automate. Can't do it by the scanmark tag, can't do it by resolution, can't do it by rating. Even for cgc's galleries, not all may be bad enough to warrant the expunge. A lot of his older ones weren't that terrible.
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post Apr 28 2022, 17:57
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QUOTE(Shank @ Apr 28 2022, 23:46) *

Nope
Just copying and pasting, but:
It's awkward if not impossible to automate. Can't do it by the scanmark tag, can't do it by resolution, can't do it by rating. Even for cgc's galleries, not all may be bad enough to warrant the expunge. A lot of his older ones weren't that terrible.


maybe don't expunge gallery has been upload before the new rule

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post Apr 28 2022, 17:59
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And even for the newer ones, he occasionally uploads something genuine in response to a bounty.
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post Apr 28 2022, 18:08
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I wasn't aware of this problem. I must access the galleries more often!
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post Apr 28 2022, 18:21
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QUOTE(cs987987 @ Apr 28 2022, 15:57) *
maybe don't expunge gallery has been upload before the new rule
That should not be an option because we will have to DX those "dd dolls" ads spam, like this one:
- https://e-hentai.org/g/2183549/91885d63f4/
- https://e-hentai.org/s/ea66062ca2/2185359-24

As much as this new category thing seems like an "anti-cgc" gig, it really isn't. Consider it as a "bonus" side-effect, or curse, whichever you prefer.
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post Apr 28 2022, 18:54
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QUOTE(PrincessKaguya @ Apr 28 2022, 13:21) *

As much as this new category thing seems like an "anti-cgc" gig, it really isn't. Consider it as a "bonus" side-effect, or curse, whichever you prefer.

A bonus, curse means it's bad.
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post Apr 28 2022, 19:05
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QUOTE(romanicyte @ Apr 28 2022, 16:54) *
curse means it's bad.
Yes, and that's exactly why I used it.
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post Apr 28 2022, 20:55
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I take great comfort in the fact he wasted hours of his day scanning images for them to be deleted as a result of his stubborn stupidity.
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post Apr 28 2022, 21:01
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QUOTE(Jigsy @ Apr 28 2022, 15:55) *

I take great comfort in the fact he wasted hours of his day scanning images for them to be deleted as a result of his stubborn stupidity.

I don't. If anything it's sad that someone could be so annoyed at randoms trash-talking you in the internet that you spend years posting content to annoy them and in the process annoying everyone in the community, making you become like the ones you initially detested.
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post Apr 28 2022, 23:22
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QUOTE(romanicyte @ Apr 28 2022, 20:01) *

I don't. If anything it's sad that someone could be so annoyed at randoms trash-talking you in the internet that you spend years posting content to annoy them and in the process annoying everyone in the community, making you become like the ones you initially detested.

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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Apr 28 2022, 08:12) *

This expunge type does not contribute towards the automatic temporary upload ban.


Can/will this be changed later? I understand its unfair to ban people for rules that did not exist at time of uploading on the short term, but I don't see why it should get preferential treatment over other expunge reasons in the long term.
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post Apr 29 2022, 02:03
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QUOTE(PrincessKaguya @ Apr 28 2022, 08:06) *

A list of example(s) of what should NOT be expunged as "defaced":
- https://e-hentai.org/g/1616312/735de10b26/ (phone scans are allowed)
- https://e-hentai.org/g/2188202/37f68786a5/ (text still visible, so still allowed even some may argue it is a "bad" scan)
- https://e-hentai.org/g/1675717/a6ed57fd27/ (older low res scan + not too invasive scanmarks)
- https://e-hentai.org/g/1675691/5f33098efe/ (not invasive scanmarks)
- https://e-hentai.org/g/1675692/2e85b37a33/ (not invasive scanmarks)
- https://e-hentai.org/g/2197637/eb2175b05a/ (ads don't cover the core content)

https://e-hentai.org/g/1675691/5f33098efe/
https://e-hentai.org/g/1675692/2e85b37a33/
+30 on 2022-04-28 23:08 by sakuraso614
+25 on 2022-04-28 23:21 by rambo voller
+22 on 2022-04-28 23:22 by 32Eff
someone did it too far.

cleared

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post Apr 29 2022, 02:49
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I still insist this one should be expunged.
https://e-hentai.org/g/1675717/a6ed57fd27/

Leaving aside the scanmark, the images are tiny and barely readable (700px in height).
They are intentionally degraded instead of being a low-res scan.
Even those old doujinantena stuff were at least 1000px in height. Those could be called low-res scans, but such 700px trash, NO.

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post Apr 29 2022, 03:36
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QUOTE(sakuraso614 @ Apr 29 2022, 02:49) *

I still insist this one should be expunged.
https://e-hentai.org/g/1675717/a6ed57fd27/

Leaving aside the scanmark, the images are tiny and barely readable (700px in height).
They are intentionally degraded instead of being a low-res scan.
Even those old doujinantena stuff were at least 1000px in height. Those could be called low-res scans, but such 700px trash, NO.


I agree.
That's just malice.
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post Apr 29 2022, 03:40
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Such requests can be made here.
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