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post Dec 24 2022, 04:58
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Google又通知我有一個密碼被洩漏了
不過那個密碼本來就是被我拿來註冊一些奇怪論壇用的就是,被洩漏是遲早的事
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post Dec 24 2022, 06:34
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除非你有打算灌ED刷IW,也就是燒錢換經驗,

不然維持60以上精力刷AR是一般作法(刷每日自然回復量),

你真的想灌ED多刷,那就先去開ED環,然後每天第1罐ED能多刷20精力的場次

好吧,非常感谢,ED环是肯定没法开的,现在连攻击环和元素环都开不了,看来不能急,谢谢大佬的答复
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post Dec 24 2022, 06:47
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QUOTE(hc br @ Dec 23 2022, 21:34) *

阿,被砍頭了

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) 被砍了更讓人好奇是什麼
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post Dec 24 2022, 07:00
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又一次手誤,在Market裏Precursor Artifact原本想按update改價錢,
不小心按到旁邊的min overbid,一時不察買了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
那位置太近了
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post Dec 24 2022, 07:40
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QUOTE(susancat @ Dec 23 2022, 22:47) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) 被砍了更讓人好奇是什麼


记得好像原来的头像不是比特彗星么
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post Dec 24 2022, 09:30
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QUOTE(susancat @ Dec 24 2022, 03:15) *

不再支持IE以後日本是不是有一堆網站會活不下去?

日本那神奇環境不好說
畢竟軟碟才剛要被放棄
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post Dec 24 2022, 09:41
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QUOTE(susancat @ Dec 24 2022, 12:47) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) 被砍了更讓人好奇是什麼


那張圖是有個人想進不存在的某地,然後被一隻熊貓罵"哩甲賽啦"

QUOTE(dongmian @ Dec 24 2022, 13:40) *

记得好像原来的头像不是比特彗星么


不知道為什麼我剛剛傳新的圖都會自己變成被砍的那張,

現在換這張可以了?

應該不會被BAN吧?

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post Dec 24 2022, 09:49
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現在換這張總可以了吧
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post Dec 24 2022, 10:02
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QUOTE(hc br @ Dec 24 2022, 15:41) *
不知道為什麼我剛剛傳新的圖都會自己變成被砍的那張,

現在換這張可以了?

因为 forums.e-hentai.org 用了 Cloudflare,然后你之前换的头像(PNG)被 Cloudflare 缓存了。你现在换的头像是个 JPG。
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post Dec 24 2022, 11:38
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HV太难玩了有木有 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

我现在230级,这套装备打hell难度的random encounter都会翻车,翻了好多遍耐久都掉空了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

我现在想升级装备找了好多WTS里都没看到适合我等级的轻甲和双手锤,大多都卖的传说的装备,好贵都不能拿来过


我看了下我的RE翻车点一般都是半血被一轮打死,如果有生命火花就挡一下下两回合再死,看数据怪物一轮能打我6
000多HP


有大佬能教导下wiki里推荐的轻甲双手武器应该怎么玩么


我的目标是能打高一点难度的RE和ARENA
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post Dec 24 2022, 12:00
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QUOTE(Yizhi @ Dec 24 2022, 17:38) *

Attached Image
HV太难玩了有木有 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
我现在230级,这套装备打hell难度的random encounter都会翻车,翻了好多遍耐久都掉空了 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
我现在想升级装备找了好多WTS里都没看到适合我等级的轻甲和双手锤,大多都卖的传说的装备,好贵都不能拿来过

我看了下我的RE翻车点一般都是半血被一轮打死,如果有生命火花就挡一下下两回合再死,看数据怪物一轮能打我6
000多HP
有大佬能教导下wiki里推荐的轻甲双手武器应该怎么玩么
我的目标是能打高一点难度的RE和ARENA


https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4332862

新手指引看過沒?

現在的版本答案是當單手盾戰放馬炮

WIKI哪邊叫人玩雙手錘輕甲的?

現在應該沒有了吧,WIKI英文版有隨著版本編修,

中文版我是沒看到哪邊有建議叫人玩雙手

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post Dec 24 2022, 12:04
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HV还有汉化?我浏览器机翻不知道为什么翻译不了
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post Dec 24 2022, 12:12
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QUOTE(hc br @ Dec 24 2022, 12:00) *

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4332862

新手指引看過沒?

現在的版本答案是當單手盾戰放馬炮

WIKI哪邊叫人玩雙手錘輕甲的?

現在應該沒有了吧,WIKI英文版有隨著版本編修,

中文版我是沒看到哪邊有建議叫人玩雙手


新手指引大概都看过,基本功能都会用

我是看的英文wiki和ask expert的那篇置顶有介绍双手武器轻甲的,加上自己的理解用锤提高生存力

一开始没有合适的重甲,200级前双手武器又能一下打一片所以没按攻略的建议用盾战

马炮也有了,自动施法也4级了

所以我现在当务之急是换成盾战么



https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=211064

9. Do not start playing as mage, start as melee
Your favored RPG class is mage and you want to start playing as mage in HentaiVerse? Sorry, wrong door then, in HentaiVerse, mage is an endgame-class, while melee is startgame-class.
Mage equipment is very expensive and on lower levels you just don't have good spells - it is just extremely hard to play as mage right from level one.
Technically, if you have "instruments" behind the game (you are donator, using H@H, adopted-a-server, etc), then you can try to start playing as mage, but if you have nothing, then start playing as melee - it is more effective, easy and comfortable.
Start playing as Two-handed melee with Light armor or One-handed melee with Heavy armor. Former is called 2H/Light, latter is called 1H/Heavy.
1H/Heavy: high defense, low avoidance, high HP, low MP, slow;
2H/Light: low defense, high avoidance, low HP, high MP, fast;

原文说的是新人别玩法师,近战可以双手轻甲或单手重甲。

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post Dec 24 2022, 12:21
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post Dec 24 2022, 12:27
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post Dec 24 2022, 12:31
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QUOTE(Yizhi @ Dec 24 2022, 18:12) *

新手指引大概都看过,基本功能都会用

我是看的英文wiki和ask expert的那篇置顶有介绍双手武器轻甲的,加上自己的理解用锤提高生存力

一开始没有合适的重甲,200级前双手武器又能一下打一片所以没按攻略的建议用盾战

马炮也有了,自动施法也4级了

所以我现在当务之急是换成盾战么



QUOTE(Yizhi @ Dec 24 2022, 18:18) *

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=211064

9. Do not start playing as mage, start as melee
Your favored RPG class is mage and you want to start playing as mage in HentaiVerse? Sorry, wrong door then, in HentaiVerse, mage is an endgame-class, while melee is startgame-class.
Mage equipment is very expensive and on lower levels you just don't have good spells - it is just extremely hard to play as mage right from level one.
Technically, if you have "instruments" behind the game (you are donator, using H@H, adopted-a-server, etc), then you can try to start playing as mage, but if you have nothing, then start playing as melee - it is more effective, easy and comfortable.
Start playing as Two-handed melee with Light armor or One-handed melee with Heavy armor. Former is called 2H/Light, latter is called 1H/Heavy.
1H/Heavy: high defense, low avoidance, high HP, low MP, slow;
2H/Light: low defense, high avoidance, low HP, high MP, fast;

原文说的是新人别玩法师,近战可以双手轻甲或单手重甲。


WIKI這樣寫沒問題,你說你看過新手指引文,

那我也不再提問了,直接告訴你問題在哪,

WIKI的建議沒寫到的是,在高難度(*15 *20)的場合,

新手的唯一選擇就剩下單手盾戰,

這點我剛開始編新手指引就講過了,

雖然新手指引陸陸續續都有再修改過,

但這點從頭到尾沒改過,為啥要用單手盾戰裡面都寫很清楚,

由衷建議新重從頭到尾讀過一遍,

相信讀完了以後要不要轉盾戰你自己會有答案

等等等等等,

你這張圖Attached Image

我問一下,你是不是系統不理解?

裝備會損耗要修理,你現在的裝備的耐久度剩下1%,有穿等於沒穿,

然後你現在233等,裝備跟目前等級差太多了,

我就在想怎樣*7也該打的過...

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WIKI這樣寫沒問題,你說你看過新手指引文,

那我也不再提問了,直接告訴你問題在哪,

WIKI的建議沒寫到的是,在高難度(*15 *20)的場合,

新手的唯一選擇就剩下單手盾戰,

這點我剛開始編新手指引就講過了,

雖然新手指引陸陸續續都有再修改過,

但這點從頭到尾沒改過,為啥要用單手盾戰裡面都寫很清楚,

由衷建議新重從頭到尾讀過一遍,

相信讀完了以後要不要轉盾戰你自己會有答案

等等等等等,

你這張圖https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=167955

我問一下,你是不是基本裝備系統都沒理解過?

知不知道裝備會損耗要修理,

知不知道你現在的裝備的耐久度剩下1%?

然後你現在233等,裝備跟目前等級差太多了,

我就在想怎樣*7也該打的過...


多谢大佬耐心回答,我确实认真看过,也思考过,我解释下

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五.裝備選擇
 首先看完下方2個WIKI條目,再解說盾戰為何強勢
 Counter-Attack(反擊): https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Fighting_Styles/Chinese#One-Handed
 裝備特效(Equipment Procs): https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Procs/Chinese
 擋格和招架會觸發盾戰的特技Counter-Attack(反擊),此特技一出,怪物有高機率會被暈眩,怪物不但無法攻擊,
 角色還能獲得鬥氣,所以盾戰跟其他戰士相比會有多很多的鬥氣來維持靈動架勢的常駐
 Overcharge(鬥氣): https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Overcharge/Chinese
 Spirit Stance(靈動架式): https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spirit_Stance/Chinese


对于这一点,我的理解是盾战的优势是高耐久高格挡加持下的格挡反击和灵动架势的常驻
优点是非常稳定不容易死,缺点是只能单个击杀怪物
相比起来双手武器的dominostrike是我更喜欢的战斗风格,打怪更快

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1.盾戰非高難度無用,高難度非盾戰不用
  新手先知道2句話,選擇裝備原則就是繞著這兩句話跑,解釋就是不打高難度的話,不需要玩盾戰,
  因為盾戰比起其他的戰士類型清怪慢,但是打高難度(*15*20),不用盾戰打會讓你忙補血.爆生命火花.噴飛回家,
  當然如果財力雄厚,或有人支援,開始就湊齊其他類型的基本裝備需求,不限定只玩盾戰,這段可以跳過

正是因为看了这段话,我才没有不自量力*15*20而是打的*7的hell
但实际用下来轻甲几乎毫无优势,给的闪避虽然能降低某些时候的伤害,但遇到敌人爆发的时候很容易一回合就被
秒掉
甚至我用的另一套120级左右的重甲都比轻甲要稳定

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我問一下,你是不是基本裝備系統都沒理解過?

知不知道裝備會損耗要修理,

知不知道你現在的裝備的耐久度剩下1%?


嗯我知道坏了要修的,这套只是之前损坏的那套,目前还有套等级更低的重甲在用着
本来还想先看看WTS里有没有合适的轻甲和双手,但是没找到


不过你说的没错,我的理解确实有问题,我本来是想找一个打得快一点,能打*10难度的战斗方式,又加上不想洗点
,所以一直在双手轻甲的路上越走越远。如果铁了心要打高难,应该果断点选盾战。

感谢你的回复。
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多谢大佬耐心回答,我确实认真看过,也思考过,我解释下
对于这一点,我的理解是盾战的优势是高耐久高格挡加持下的格挡反击和灵动架势的常驻
优点是非常稳定不容易死,缺点是只能单个击杀怪物
相比起来双手武器的dominostrike是我更喜欢的战斗风格,打怪更快
正是因为看了这段话,我才没有不自量力*15*20而是打的*7的hell
但实际用下来轻甲几乎毫无优势,给的闪避虽然能降低某些时候的伤害,但遇到敌人爆发的时候很容易一回合就被
秒掉
甚至我用的另一套120级左右的重甲都比轻甲要稳定
嗯我知道坏了要修的,这套只是之前损坏的那套,目前还有套等级更低的重甲在用着
本来还想先看看WTS里有没有合适的轻甲和双手,但是没找到
不过你说的没错,我的理解确实有问题,我本来是想找一个打得快一点,能打*10难度的战斗方式,又加上不想洗点
,所以一直在双手轻甲的路上越走越远。如果铁了心要打高难,应该果断点选盾战。

感谢你的回复。


關於洗點,

一個帳號能創建3個人格,

你直接弄個新的人格重新點技能就好
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關於洗點,

一個帳號能創建3個人格,

你直接弄個新的人格重新點技能就好


原来换人格就能换ability,之前在ability页面一直想找set没找到,这下解开了我所有心结了,马上去搞一套盾战 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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原来换人格就能换ability,之前在ability页面一直想找set没找到,这下解开了我所有心结了,马上去搞一套盾战 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


小心别点错了,要点“创建空白人格”,不要点“复制人格”。
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