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post Sep 4 2022, 07:57
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原來Doulingo有排行榜啊，用不了真難受，想說怎麼功能很陽春
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post Sep 4 2022, 09:21
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中秋可能放不了假了，难受
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post Sep 4 2022, 12:27
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用远古版本的火狐还是有好处的，网页版知乎的隐藏水印打不上去。
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post Sep 4 2022, 12:43
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中秋可能放不了假了，难受

对哦下周是中秋，为什么我会有感觉我也不好过
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post Sep 4 2022, 14:06
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400M的PHOH
也沒想像中那麼天價
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post Sep 4 2022, 14:14
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400M的PHOH
也沒想像中那麼天價

装备升级，拍卖规则，以及太多的人开出PHOH了
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post Sep 4 2022, 14:16
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400M的PHOH
也沒想像中那麼天價


这次拍卖形式不一样，大家只能各自报价但是不知道别人的报价，所以战不起来，看起来更像竞标。
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post Sep 4 2022, 14:34
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这次PHOH便宜也跟关于peerless升级的一些讨论有关，在这上面的花费可能不到400M
而且很多玩圣的有钱人多半也从FoS里开出PHOH了
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post Sep 4 2022, 17:39
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QUOTE(rjgc @ Sep 4 2022, 12:14) *

装备升级，拍卖规则，以及太多的人开出PHOH了

我是不太懂那種拍賣規則的意圖
你說私隱吧，拍賣結果、至少中標者是公開的
圖錢嗎﹖中標價又是設第二高價的
暗盤能炒熱競價氣氛嗎﹖結果也沒怎麼特別，除非丟S拍連400M也拿不回來
沒有神仙砸錢一股腦熱亂喊價，自然也沒有吃瓜觀眾炒熱氣氛了
哪怕以後能升級PHOH，那也必然是魂綁為前提，不能跟可交易的P杖相比
也許真的太多人開出PHOH了
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post Sep 4 2022, 18:44
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我是不太懂那種拍賣規則的意圖
你說私隱吧，拍賣結果、至少中標者是公開的
圖錢嗎﹖中標價又是設第二高價的
暗盤能炒熱競價氣氛嗎﹖結果也沒怎麼特別，除非丟S拍連400M也拿不回來
沒有神仙砸錢一股腦熱亂喊價，自然也沒有吃瓜觀眾炒熱氣氛了
哪怕以後能升級PHOH，那也必然是魂綁為前提，不能跟可交易的P杖相比
也許真的太多人開出PHOH了

这个投票规则是 Vickrey auction，要求就是sealed-bid second-price auction。这个规则的奇妙之处在于它是truth-revealing的。我也是前几天刚学到这个东西，看那个拍卖贴挺惊讶，e站也有人懂经济学……
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post Sep 4 2022, 19:18
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这个投票规则是 Vickrey auction，要求就是sealed-bid second-price auction。这个规则的奇妙之处在于它是truth-revealing的。我也是前几天刚学到这个东西，看那个拍卖贴挺惊讶，e站也有人懂经济学……

受教了，我就說怎麼會特意設這種規則
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post Sep 4 2022, 23:36
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Noni's DIY Isekai Equipment Auction 里这句是什么意思？
- You (the seller) will manage your own auction when it ends: send the stuff to the highest bidder with the correct COD. Please do this within a day or so.
不是用主世界的C支付的吗？发装备怎么设置主世界的COD？
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post Sep 5 2022, 01:01
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Noni's DIY Isekai Equipment Auction 里这句是什么意思？
- You (the seller) will manage your own auction when it ends: send the stuff to the highest bidder with the correct COD. Please do this within a day or so.
不是用主世界的C支付的吗？发装备怎么设置主世界的COD？


Noni的拍卖没有proxy bid，一切竞标的记录都由noni/ shank手动记录。拍卖结束以后由卖家自己发装备给买家。如非说明，卖家在异世界发装备给买家，然后在主世界发C
oD给买家。由于Cod的设定必须发出某物，所以他们通常会发1C，这1C要用拍卖的标价买。想用异世界货币的话得私底
下跟卖家协商。
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post Sep 5 2022, 01:56
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中秋对吾辈的意义：
节过完看看超市的月饼有没有性价比好的买点儿。。。。
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post Sep 5 2022, 03:07
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QUOTE(jy-laji @ Sep 5 2022, 00:44) *

这个投票规则是 Vickrey auction，要求就是sealed-bid second-price auction。这个规则的奇妙之处在于它是truth-revealing的。我也是前几天刚学到这个东西，看那个拍卖贴挺惊讶，e站也有人懂经济学……

2020諾貝爾經濟學獎是研究拍賣機制的，當時看過一點，只是獲獎的那種拍賣模式放在hv可能不太合適。
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post Sep 5 2022, 03:24
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好像有點秋涼，但還是很熱
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post Sep 5 2022, 03:25
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今年中秋節運氣太好了，先是去澎湖玩的時候碰到颱風，但是看到飛機沒停班，還是去了，結果玩了三天都風和日
麗，反而台灣本島在下雨。
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post Sep 5 2022, 03:30
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弱弱問下400M的單位是C嗎，看了下金星110M單位也是C嗎，看大家好像都習慣了，可是我不知道ww
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post Sep 5 2022, 04:04
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QUOTE(jy-laji @ Sep 5 2022, 05:36) *

Noni's DIY Isekai Equipment Auction 里这句是什么意思？
- You (the seller) will manage your own auction when it ends: send the stuff to the highest bidder with the correct COD. Please do this within a day or so.
不是用主世界的C支付的吗？发装备怎么设置主世界的COD？

DIY 拍賣只是幫你處理競價紀錄，結束後裝備還是要自己發
ISK 發裝備，主世界同標題隨便附個東西（大部分是藥水），然後掛 CoD

另外拍賣關閉後，記得看一下 #1 的最後編輯時間
如果最後出價時間比 #1 的最後編輯時間晚，要自己追一下是不是有人要出價


QUOTE(fmnijk @ Sep 5 2022, 09:30) *

弱弱問下400M的單位是C嗎，看了下金星110M單位也是C嗎，看大家好像都習慣了，可是我不知道ww

都是主世界的 C 沒錯
這遊戲的頂級裝備，用金星價格去計算，都挺恐怖的
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post Sep 5 2022, 08:19
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之前目标9月初到400级绑500的装备。
结果摸鱼了，4天升了1级 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
打完了几件装备的J5后失去了刷IW的动力...顺其自然吧
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