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QUOTE(a123111111 @ Nov 18 2025, 14:01) *

(480/316)*25=37.97
(524/316)*25=41.45
(556/316)*25=43.98
(622/316)*25=49.2

看上去非常可疑,但我测试出更可疑的东西
(622/216)*17.1=49.24%
(556/216)*17.1=44.02%
(524/216)*17.1=41.48%
(480/216)*17.1=38%

虽然不知道为什么是17.1这个数字,但38%刚好被整除不带小数点,我更倾向是这个

似乎是我想得太复杂了,菠萝好像就是简单地搞了几个魔法常数和分段函数

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post Today, 08:30
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QUOTE(unitready @ Nov 18 2025, 00:24) *

你说的仅限释放debuff,而你的伤害性法术先要magic acc过怪的evd,然后再去碰怪的resist,这打出来的数字我只能说真好看(我没转法),相信狗头哥你的铁杆战法build也
吃到这一枪啊,因为你单手武器也只能打一个大反抵抗。

确实。明天就转法试试看

QUOTE(剑行血间 @ Nov 18 2025, 01:19) *

看上去非常可疑,但我测试出更可疑的东西
(622/216)*17.1=49.24%
(556/216)*17.1=44.02%
(524/216)*17.1=41.48%
(480/216)*17.1=38%

虽然不知道为什么是17.1这个数字,但38%刚好被整除不带小数点,我更倾向是这个

似乎是我想得太复杂了,菠萝好像就是简单地搞了几个魔法常数和分段函数

只是因为正好1/216 * 17.1 ≈1/316 * 25。
10b说“Accuracy and Evade both have a +100 base minimum value”
命中和闪避计算时要+100
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post Today, 09:09
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post Today, 09:18
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突然想到一个问题,debuff现在不会被闪避只会被抵抗,是不是意味着法杖减益熟练的意义降低了?
虽然好像对现在的生态没啥影响,反而柳木的地位还更高了
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post Today, 09:22
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当抵抗>三倍命中,或者命中低于某个临界值,抵抗概率=抵抗/10
当抵抗>临界值>命中,抵抗概率=25*抵抗/(命中+100)
当抵抗<临界值,抵抗概率=28.9*抵抗/(命中+100)

接近20%这里不知道是怎么处理的,先当成线性函数,28.9这个系数一点都不美观

但菠萝的代码有点问题,似乎是计算先计算系数,25*命中/(命中+100)=17.089,四舍五入成17.1,再跟抵抗和命中计算,17.1*480/216=38%,刚好得到一个整数,如果是带有小数的四舍五入会是38.0%而不是38%,虽然这个值可能不参与战斗判定仅仅是展示单次概率

感觉这样有点问题,分段函数没有衔接起来,某些场景下抵抗数值提高反而抵抗概率降低,反过来也可能命中提高
但抵抗概率增高,相比之下招架/格挡/闪避对命中的数学公式比较自然

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post Today, 09:42
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QUOTE(unitready @ Mar 11 2025, 11:21) *

经验训练拉满,经验环拉满,熟练训练拉满,有余力开猫娘就开一个;
画廊的那些奖章能搞可以搞搞,有独立增伤;
然后挂HH也有独立增伤;


看以前的贴文还以为挂hh能有伤害加成,原来说的是冲榜和徽章的经验独立乘区的事,嗨。

感觉比起冲榜,还是充猫娘更加现实一点,遇到行情好能薅菠萝一成,900U左右就能充,

传闻最高能薅2成,但是那个要天天看着币价,我又不炒币,天天盯着有点得不偿失了。

h@h限了3000GB每月,现在日排名300开外,想冲到月榜前50,还真得氪金搞搞vps了。
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post Today, 10:22
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QUOTE(worms3000 @ Nov 18 2025, 15:18) *

突然想到一个问题,debuff现在不会被闪避只会被抵抗,是不是意味着法杖减益熟练的意义降低了?
虽然好像对现在的生态没啥影响,反而柳木的地位还更高了


以目前的機制打高層塔,單手戰士看來勢必得留CP上法術反抵抗護符了...

西瓜你的香蕉

大虛空 30 CP,大法術反抵抗 好像也30?

2個60CP了,不是L武器基本沒剩的空間了?

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post Today, 11:14
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QUOTE(hc br @ Nov 18 2025, 16:22) *

以目前的機制打高層塔,單手戰士看來勢必得留CP上法術反抵抗護符了...

西瓜你的香蕉

大虛空 30 CP,大法術反抵抗 好像也30?

2個60CP了,不是L武器基本沒剩的空間了?

L武器IW20不是56点CP吗?可能还得考虑战法武器 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

而且他这次改动怪物的命中又增加了,昨天打AR的难度明显提升,后面法师的日子肉眼可见的不好过
感觉还得调整

刚看了一下又更新了
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 18 2025, 17:07) *

Pushed another small update.

- When overwriting an existing effect, the current remaining tick timer is now added to the effect. Let me know if you notice any weird side-effects of this.

- Monsters now switch to a logarithmic accuracy bonus formula above 500 DEX/WIS, which should significantly curtail accuracy at higher monster levels. (I don't expect this to be the final revision.)

- Immobilize now reduces natural resist by 25%, and the Better Immobilize abilities will further increase it to 50%.

- Channeling now also grants 100% counter-resist, so the channeled spell cannot be resisted.



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post Today, 11:19
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https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=6774999
菠萝发了单独一层的更新内容。
目前的翻译版本为 2025.11.18
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Pushed another small update.
另一个小更新。
- When overwriting an existing effect, the current remaining tick timer is now added to the effect. Let me know if you notice any weird side-effects of this.
当覆盖既存的效果的时候,当前剩余的计时将会叠加到效果上。如果遇到不良反应,请告知菠萝。
- Monsters now switch to a logarithmic accuracy bonus formula above 500 DEX/WIS, which should significantly curtail accuracy at higher monster levels. (I don't expect this to be the final revision.)
当怪物的 DEX/WIS 超过 500 以后,怪物的命中数值将会被转换成一个对数公式,这将显著降低高等级怪物的命中。(菠萝不指望这个设置被做
为最终版本)
- Immobilize now reduces natural resist by 25%, and the Better Immobilize abilities will further increase it to 50%.
定身现在降低 25% 的自然抵抗,强力定身技能会将该效果提升到 50% 。
- Channeling now also grants 100% counter-resist, so the channeled spell cannot be resisted.
引导现在保证 100% 的反抵抗,所以引导状态的魔法不会被抵抗。

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post Today, 12:10
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新的更新有个很改善游戏体验的点,而且没有破坏平衡,但是我怕又有神人反馈去改(
好吧, 光速趋势
我得记住反馈贴里的一些人,如果他们未来抱怨难度过高或者体验太差, 我不介意去嘲笑一番(
从赛季开始到现在,明明所有人都在因为新的命中计算和曾经的伤害异常焦头烂额,却老是有人雪上加霜
而且还老是在一些莫名奇妙的地方发散他们神奇的思维
结果就是一个大问题变成一个大问题+一堆无法忽视的小问题。

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post Today, 12:23
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Nov 18 2025, 17:19) *


我还是没搞懂到底什么叫自然抵抗。。更新串菠萝没回我 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Today, 12:38
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QUOTE(Lady_Slayer @ Nov 18 2025, 18:23) *

我还是没搞懂到底什么叫自然抵抗。。更新串菠萝没回我 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


不知道菠萝是想和什么区别开来,
PFUDOR 难度加成的抵抗,
混沌强化增加的抵抗,
特殊怪物的抵抗加成(三龙),
还有没有别的。
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抵抗基础值吗?
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QUOTE(Lady_Slayer @ Nov 18 2025, 18:48) *

抵抗基础值吗?


我以前也没见过自然抵抗这个说法,不知道菠萝是不是因为现在测试的抵抗机制或者为了建构什么新机制用把基础
抵抗换成自然抵抗的说法,也许在母语者看过去这是一回事。

另外菠萝又做小改了:

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=6775046

Made some further tweaks to the monster accuracy curve. Also the accuracy bonus from chaos upgrades was lowered to 1% per pip to make it less extreme.

对怪物的命中曲线做了进一步调整。混沌强化的命中加成现在减低到了每级 1% ,让它不那么极端。
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高难度打不过,不整了
话说isk的装备链接点进去现在看不到已经上过的护符种类,主世界这种还是能看到iw得到了什么加成的。这个算feat
ure?
然后护符到底要不要修怎么看,之前死掉但我怕爆掉马上修了一次装备
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Nov 18 2025, 19:19) *

Pushed another small update.
另一个小更新。
- When overwriting an existing effect, the current remaining tick timer is now added to the effect. Let me know if you notice any weird side-effects of this.
当覆盖既存的效果的时候,当前剩余的计时将会叠加到效果上。如果遇到不良反应,请告知菠萝。



接著打還沒打完的AR,想說先補一輪輔助法術

一看 Heartseeker穿心 怎麼還有900多t (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

原來是能疊了

QUOTE(比谷企八幡 @ Nov 18 2025, 20:59) *

高难度打不过,不整了
话说isk的装备链接点进去现在看不到已经上过的护符种类,主世界这种还是能看到iw得到了什么加成的。这个算feat
ure?
然后护符到底要不要修怎么看,之前死掉但我怕爆掉马上修了一次装备


袋子破掉 會有個三角形警示號提醒 (以前 修裝驚嘆號 那個位置)

進去裝備欄會看到,該護符欄的袋子有個一條刪除線

可以選擇補袋子 或是 讓他繼續裸裝

比較袋子(最便宜的10K左右 ?)&小護符(有的可能 3~4K+10個電池也才5~6K)的成本

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又找了个s2的怪扫了下更新后的结果
昨天我只有80%左右的命中率,还有20%左右机率被招架
今天变成了99%命中和0%招架
难度又下降了非常多,balance在有用和没用之间反复横跳 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

buff可叠之后MP消耗降低很多很多,引导拿来上buff等于永远不耗蓝

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