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post Nov 2 2025, 12:38
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为近期群友频发的事故专门弄的图
伊利丹是圣属性的符合剧情（
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post Nov 2 2025, 12:39
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QUOTE(--一虹-- @ Nov 2 2025, 18:30) *

这么说那我还是早日弃坑算了，没意思

太费操作了，一点也不轮椅

我的152级无双力盾现在是26.4的格挡，我看了一下36级的截图，是17.7的格挡
算下来一级增加0.075%的格挡，对等级高利好，200级到30格挡也打不了x15
而且iw还不知道什么时候才能有碎片打

命中格挡招架回避现在不都是纯数值吗？机率在哪看的？ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Nov 2 2025, 12:44
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命中格挡招架回避现在不都是纯数值吗？机率在哪看的？ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

你看异界单手250级技能加的数值对比主世界单手技能的百分比
完全是成比例的
我是这么推算的
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post Nov 2 2025, 12:52
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QUOTE(a123111111 @ Nov 2 2025, 18:20) *

試著用輕甲dw爬x10gf，好像還行?

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礼貌问问，dw是啥 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Nov 2 2025, 12:55
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礼貌问问，dw是啥 :blink:


Dual Wielding 雙持
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post Nov 2 2025, 12:59
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QUOTE(--一虹-- @ Nov 2 2025, 18:30) *

而且iw还不知道什么时候才能有碎片打

按菠萝的说法，以后爬塔会送一点种子，前10层1个，后面每10层2个，感觉有点太少了。
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 2 2025, 17:15) *

I added some free World Seed drops to The Tower; you now get 1 for the first 10 floors, 2 for the next 10, and so on. (I know some people already cleared some floors, but can't really compensate for that after the fact.)


QUOTE(bellilust @ Nov 2 2025, 18:38) *

請問gf x15難度打幾場就撤 跟x7難度打30-40場 哪個比較好?

有入场费，x10或者x7都行

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礼貌问问，dw是啥 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

1H - 单手
2H - 双手
DW - 双持
NI - 二天一流
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Fighting_Styles
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post Nov 2 2025, 12:59
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礼貌问问，dw是啥 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


雙持

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Fighting_Styles/Chi....AD.A6.E5.99.A8

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Skills/Chinese#.E6.....88.B0.E6.8A.80
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post Nov 2 2025, 13:01
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QUOTE(ray5255 @ Nov 2 2025, 18:38) *

为近期群友频发的事故专门弄的图
伊利丹是圣属性的符合剧情（


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post Nov 2 2025, 13:04
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看大佬们的讨论。。。。
这日后要套用到主世界。。。。
小夜看来不用再考虑要不要转法师的问题了是吧。。。。
这下得重甲战士一路走到黑了嘛。。。。
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post Nov 2 2025, 13:07
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種子補了
我印象中說改機制的時候沒後半那句話呀 XD
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post Nov 2 2025, 13:11
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有谁iw了能说一下难度如何吗
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post Nov 2 2025, 13:15
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種子補了
我印象中說改機制的時候沒後半那句話呀 XD

啊？哪句話？

昨天和今天的 AR 都翻車了，今天的是上午打的，正好卡 CD 直接被秒。
好像 10b 下午五六點又改了什麼機制或者數值？不知道明天打 AR 和塔要走哪個流派了。
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post Nov 2 2025, 13:20
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啊？哪句話？

昨天和今天的 AR 都翻車了，今天的是上午打的，正好卡 CD 直接被秒。
好像 10b 下午五六點又改了什麼機制或者數值？不知道明天打 AR 和塔要走哪個流派了。


盾牌反擊公式調整過 暈眩機率有感提升
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post Nov 2 2025, 13:25
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QUOTE(KagamiHiiragiSama @ Nov 2 2025, 19:15) *

啊？哪句話？

昨天和今天的 AR 都翻車了，今天的是上午打的，正好卡 CD 直接被秒。
好像 10b 下午五六點又改了什麼機制或者數值？不知道明天打 AR 和塔要走哪個流派了。

我印象中一開始只有說種子獎勵機制的添加，但沒提到會不會補償

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https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=6765221
命中機制有改，所以反擊相較於下午提高很多


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看來波羅也發現怪物抗性太高的問題了，希望這部分也有調整
現在沒辦法簡單得到 void 傷害，怪物三抗太高真的抓癢

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post Nov 2 2025, 13:34
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盾牌反擊公式調整過 暈眩機率有感提升

眩晕那个机率原本的设置肯定是有问题的，之前我一次打晕都没触发过 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Nov 2 2025, 13:40
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去 GF 试了下确实好了很多，现在我可以无脑 aaa 到 80 round，上午 40 round 就得开技能上 debuff。

希望能去掉火花的冷却时间，不然 x15 还是会暴毙。

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post Nov 2 2025, 13:53
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龍場之後強制*20應該也沒了吧?

現在*15*20只能打血票場...
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post Nov 2 2025, 13:55
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感谢各位大佬的解答，双持在之前确实没咋在意过……
所以现在比较好的解决方案就是双持+轻甲或者双持+重甲？双持的两个武器有什么讲究吗，双持西洋剑？还是匕首
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post Nov 2 2025, 14:01
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有谁iw了能说一下难度如何吗


现在大概是没有人打IW的，目前在卖的也才37个，这个东西攒着或者卖掉才是好选择


然后塔盾格挡数值看起来比立场盾还要高，干扰更低，代价是超高的负荷，对重甲大利好，不知道对轻甲的闪避影
响多少。

所以，现在的负荷如何影响闪避和命中率呢？


还有，我刚发现自己兜里有9个Seed，这个材料大概不会太稀缺了！！！

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post Nov 2 2025, 14:14
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现在大概是没有人打IW的，目前在卖的也才37个，这个东西攒着或者卖掉才是好选择
然后塔盾格挡数值看起来比立场盾还要高，干扰更低，代价是超高的负荷，对重甲大利好，不知道对轻甲的闪避影
响多少。

所以，现在的负荷如何影响闪避和命中率呢？
还有，我刚发现自己兜里有9个Seed，这个材料大概不会太稀缺了！！！

看来你也是翻车了一层，上面说了菠萝发放种子的事情

fatepain 和 剑行血间买了低金，想必已经iw了，
请问是什么难度，打完能强几次
强完提升如何

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